IRS acquiring shotguns (not just hate mail anymore)

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https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=8d3b076... The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) intends to purchase sixty Remington Model 870 Police RAMAC #24587 12 gauge pump-action shotguns for the Criminal Investigation Division. The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.

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Didn't Eliot Ness work for

Didn't Eliot Ness work for the IRS? I guess we're all Al Capones now....

Was there a Whiskey Rebellion somewhere?

No, now it will be the health care rebellion as Obama signed into law today a new class of "criminals", those that fail to engage in fascist commerce!

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RON PAUL 2012

Don't worry!

You crazy conspiracy theorists on DP, stop fear mongering about your government.

We all know the government loves us. So when you see an IRS Agent with a 12 gauge pump action shotgun they are really LOVE GUNS!

Think of them as a sort of Cupid that takes your money by force...oops I mean LOVE.

Not good

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Creepy, especially now in light of this:

'IRS to Enforce Health Care!'
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/129751

bump

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No doubt, this will make tax collection easier and less

subject to taxpayer objections? "compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory"? I wonder what a list of their "existing shotgun inventory" would look like. Evidently, the IRS is pursuing a policy of "aggressive tax negotiation".

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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."

Why do a bunch of accounting investigators need shotguns for

work?

You can't add and subtract with a shotgun. You need pencil and paper to do that.

Yes, they are criminal investigators. But they are part of the IRS. If they need firepower in case they are going into some drug lords lair, then they should call on the U.S. Marshals to protect them.

There is ZERO justification for shotguns in the hands of government accountants short of repelling an imminent invasion.

This just proves that they are NOT accountants nor investigators, they are thugs intent on murdering American civilians.

These bastards just make me want to puke, Why don't they move to Russia?

Why don't they move to Russia?

Because they'd get arrested.

Hear, hear!

You tell 'em, samadamscw!
Russia is too good. I'd favor sending them to the moon.
POW! Right to the moon.

I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior.--Hippolyte Taine

Has each and every person in the IRS had a background check?

The IRS is a domestic terrorist organization and the government is giving them weapons.

Oh quit fear mongering we know they are just hunting turkeys

The IRS really stands for Instant Raping with Shotguns, and they have been keen on taking down the turkey empire for years.

The role of a farmer, in Fukuoka's mind, is an observer, not an intervener, of the natural order in his/her particular landscape. How is that any different than Hayek in regards to Economics?

Nothing to see here folks

gobble gobble

If voting could really change things,
it would be illegal. Here is hoping for change!

Remington 870?

Meet the Saiga 12 gauge , with a 20 round drum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUe4NWiOq5A&feature=related
One of my favorites.

The 2nd amendment. The ORIGINAL Homeland Security...

Inching near

the Rubicon

Not for defense.

Nowhere have I heard the IRS or its countless minions being under physical attack. Therefore these semi-legal weapons are for offensive purposes. And what would that be?

Terrorism is defined in the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations as: "..the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives." (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85)

Those are for kicking down doors.

A 14" barrelled shotgun is known as an "entry gun".
It's made for kicking down doors, and quick action inside a house, or close quarters.

It's also a barrel length that requires a special Federal tax, and criminal background check, before any regular "civilian" can own one.

Anybody specifying a gun like that is either planning on kicking in doors of a house, or defending a house.
Guess which one the IRS is planning on?

You are right

14" is not a legal civilian length barrel,Are they going to need them to fit in a Brief case?For Mob audits maybe?

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Census takers here in California are being offered $18 an hour.

Minimum wage is $8.00 an hour. I guess the extra ten dollars is for "risk pay", who cares. It's just TARP (bribe) money to grow more government.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

It was $ 15

in 2000 for an enumerator (going door to door) so $18 is in line with that. You also get paid mileage. It is hard as heck on your car. Some positions paid more than $18 an hour. Office grunts made $8 in 2000. I made a little over 15 as a crew leader, but I would end up working 7 days a week sometimes 12 hours a day and they would'nt pay overtime (except to some people, nepitism ect.)Yet I had to keep my crew going and supplied with books and they would not let you give them more than one at a time so if they finished one I would have to go meet them and give them another. They got to work whatever hours they wanted.
Some of the higher ups were real crooks. When I found out some people were getting overtime and others weren't they said they would give me overtime if I kept my mouth shut. Of course I told them if I got overtime everyone should get overtime and they started making things real difficult for me. I stuck in there for my crew and finally quit when I was 90% done which really screwed the higher ups because they had to train someone to take over that wasn't familiar with my area. That was fun watching them turn around and practically beg me to stay. He he he.

So federal overtime laws don't apply to the Census Bureau?

hmm....

same here...

in WV... wouldn't touch it myself...

the IRS should NOT

have their own armed force. Anytime there is a need to investigate when potential harm to agents is expected...they should have local law enforcement involved. That way it keeps the Feds from overstepping their bounds...we hope.

Every Department of the Gov

has an enforcement arm that packs heat. Even the DOEd and DOE (which for some reason has grenade launchers in their arsenal).

What ever happened to "reaching out to the community"?

It never ceases to amaze me, that the brilliance of mankind is ignored in favor of the nozzle of a gun.
NO TAXES.
11) America's "Tax Army" employs more people (1.2 million) than we have armed forces stationed in the United States (0.9 million). (14) (4) Collecting taxes is a completely non-value added task, adding nothing to our economy. Some of our brightest minds – lawyers, accountants, and computer experts - pound away at keyboards trying to figure out either how to plunder more money from others or find loops in the tax code to "save costs" for their clients. The total cost of collecting taxes is estimated at $63 billion, ironically just $4 Billion short of funding general government and law enforcement! (30) (3) The IRS employs 91,000 and will spend $11.6 Billion in 2009 collecting taxes. (31) (32)
http://towneforcongress.com/economy/common-sense-fixes-the-j...

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

They sound like....

Gangsters to me now. So sad.

Wow,

creepy.

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What's really creepy is that statists are still trying to ...

pass this bill (so-called Obama care) inspite of the stiff opposition to it. Could this bill be the coupe de grace' for our Republic? I think there would be many more tax protesters and non-filers if they try to sneak this one by. So DYOC about the reasons behind this, you are not likely to be too far off.

But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers

There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer