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What I learned from my conversation with Ron Paul - Part II, On Palin's Endorsement of Rand

Ron Paul told me another story on the phone the other day, about his 1996 race to get back into the House. He had to go up against the GOP Establishment and their hand-picked candidate, much like Rand is doing now. They fought hard to keep Ron out, but he won. After his victory, the Establishment was coming to him for advice and support! The moral of the story is that after you win a race, the power dynamic changes completely. The winner has to be respected. Mitch McConnell and the GOP Establishment may be backing Trey Grayson now, but if Rand wins, the whole game changes completely.

Dr. Paul and I did not talk about Palin's endorsement of Rand. I didn't even know it was official until later that day. But like some here, I initially felt a little uncomfortable about the idea of Palin endorsing Rand. Again, this was due to my being a political newbie. I've since changed my mind, after Dr. Paul encouraged me to look at the big picture, to look at the goals we're focused on and how to achieve them.

What follows are my own opinions, based on my reflections after speaking with Dr. Paul.

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We are fighting an ideological battle, for Liberty. In order for our ideas to win, first they must be exposed to as many people as possible. This is what Ron Paul's entire political career has been about - exposing and educating people on the concept of Liberty. Few have worked harder than Dr. Paul toward this end.

Just take a look at this Flickr archive of pictures of Ron Paul, taken by people all over the country.

There are over 30,500 images in the archive. Click on any random page and you'll see Dr. Paul in at outdoor rallies, in crowded rooms, on television, and with individual supporters signing autographs. He has been working hard to expose people across this country to ideas that have been long forgotten.

Think about how you were first exposed to the Message, and how your beliefs have since changed as a result. You may have been a neocon, a Democrat, or just apathetic. You may have been a Libertarian, but not even known it. Your transformation began after you were exposed to the ideas and they started to take root. Like being infected with a virus, it is a mysterious process that begins with exposure!

Sarah Palin's endorsement of Rand Paul is a huge boost for the Liberty movement because in one fell swoop, millions of Sarah Palin fans are exposed to our Message.

Furthermore, our Message is given instant credibility among them by her implicit support. Regardless of what you think of Palin or her fans, this exposure is like randomly spreading a few million new seeds of Liberty across the country. Some of them are going to catch and start to grow - just as they grew in you and I. We saw how contagious that growth can be during Ron Paul's 2008 presidential campaign, and for a simple reason: Freedom is popular. It seems that most people just don't understand it quite yet. It is not something they teach in the government controlled schools.

Some people seem to think that Rand somehow "sold out" by aligning with Palin. But if so, what did he sell? Politics is an interesting game, and to show you just how interesting, lets look at this from Sarah's point of view:

At the moment, there is no question that Palin is a media darling. But we all know how fickle the media is and her current massive popularity has some faddish qualities to it. Does her star have staying power, or is she just a shooting star? She has a best selling book, but it won't stay at the top of the list forever, and she no longer holds public office. She could easily be here today, gone tomorrow. She knows this, and knows she needs to stay relevant.

Enter the Kentucky Senate Race. Even without Palin, this is one of the most exciting races in the country. And, knock on wood, at this point, it looks like Rand is going to win. With the work ethic he's inherited from his father, Rand is already making Trey Grayson look like Kentucky's version of Martha Coakley.

In my opinion, Palin's endorsement of Rand means that she already thinks he's going to win and she doesn't want to be left behind. She's probably kicking herself for not having endorsed Scott Brown. Palin wouldn't take the political risk of endorsing a loser, and a Rand victory gives her the ability to appear to the Establishment GOP, and the media, that she's got vision, that she has her finger on the pulse of the grassroots, that she's a "risk taker" for endorsing an outsider, that she can "pick winners," even that she's a 'kingmaker' (if she can get away with it).

What I'm trying to point out is that this is an even trade - a free market transaction in which both parties benefit. As such, Rand won't end up "owing" her in the sense that some people here fear. In truth, he's on track to win the primary with or without her endorsement. After all, he's already 19 points ahead!

At the same time, both candidates have to walk a fine line with their constituencies, as their official statements reveal. Political statements such as these are crafted to convey subtle but meaningful messages to their constituents. In the case of Palin's and Rand's, pubished in POLITICO both are short, which make them very easy to analyze:

Palin: “I’m proud to support great grassroots candidates like Dr. Paul,” Palin said in a statement to POLITICO. “While there are issues we disagree on, he and I are both in agreement that it’s time to shake up the status quo in Washington and stand up for common sense ideas.”

Very straightforward and positive. "While there are issues we disagree on..." gives both of them an out. If either one does something embarassing to the other's constituency, they can always go back and say, "we never said we agree on everything."

Rand's statement is equally straightforward:

Paul: “Gov. Palin is providing tremendous leadership as the Tea Party movement and constitutional conservatives strive to take our country back,” Paul said. “I am proud to receive her support.”

There's no arguing that Palin is showing leadership. She's all over the press. But importantly, look how Rand links the Constitutional Conservatives with the Tea Parties, putting them squarely on equal footing. He is also quick to point out in interviews that he was at one of the first Tea Parties, in 2007 at Faneuil Hall in Boston, on the day the grassroots community raised over $6million for his father's presidential campaign.

Listen to what David Brooks had to say about the Tea Party movement in a January Op-Ed in the New York Times.

The tea party movement is a large, fractious confederation of Americans who are defined by what they are against. They are against the concentrated power of the educated class. They believe big government, big business, big media and the affluent professionals are merging to form self-serving oligarchy — with bloated government, unsustainable deficits, high taxes and intrusive regulation.

There is no doubt in my mind that this country is in the midst of a revolution - a real one. The storms have been brewing on the horizon for my entire life, and things are coming to a head. Revolutions start with groups of angry people, but many times they're unsure about why exactly they're angry. They know something is wrong, but often are not able to diagnose it properly. In order for a revolution to succeed, it needs intellectual leadership, not only for the diagnosis, but also for the solutions.

Brooks is pointing out that the Tea Party movement lacks any guiding intellectual framework. At this point, it is an angry mob, and as Juan Enriquez has pointed out, Sometimes tea parties have unintended consequences. Rand is smart to align himself with the Tea Partiers, as he, and we, can help provide that intellectual leadership.

At this late point in history, our primary goal - the big picture - is taking back our country, and in order to do that, we need an educated populace, and we need people. We need to start moving beyond petty political squabbles and unite as Americans. Did you not see Ron Paul's State of the Republic address? The hour is truly getting late.

The Tea Parties are fertile ground. People are angry and are looking for answers and explanations as to what went wrong. Many of them have not yet realized the true extent of the problems and how deep they go. Dr. Paul has said that those of us who are awake to this reality bear a greater responsibility - not to turn away, but to help educate our fellow citizens. As much as the media tries to categorize and divide us, we are all Americans.

At this point, no one is really in control of the Tea Parties, and as the elder Dr. Paul has said, no one really knows what they mean. Yet. The future is yet unwritten. As Brooks continues:

Over the course of this year, the tea party movement will probably be transformed. Right now, it is an amateurish movement with mediocre leadership. But several bright and polished politicians, like Marco Rubio of Florida and Gary Johnson of New Mexico, are unofficially competing to become its de facto leader. If they succeed, their movement is likely to outgrow its crude beginnings and become a major force in American politics. After all, it represents arguments that are deeply rooted in American history.

In other words, leadership for this nascent group is still up for grabs, and the right - or wrong - leadership could have drastic consequences for the country.

Never forget that there is a larger story to what is going on. The future remains unwritten. We are on the cutting edge and living through historic times. Remember to stay focused and be flexible as we maneuver our way though.

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Men are born soft and supple; dead, they are stiff and hard. Plants are born tender and pliant; dead, they are brittle and dry. Thus whoever is stiff and inflexible is a disciple of death. Whoever is soft and yielding is a disciple of life. The hard and stiff will be broken. The soft and supple will prevail.

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...Palin is the lipstick on the pig...

...just like Becks 9/12 B.S. ...
...THEY are playing from the same book they always have...and we are falling for it AGAIN...
...History is repeating itself...
...This is all about keeping everyone a Republican or a Democrat or marginalized or uninterested...
...This is all about co-opting...
...What ever happened to a Third Party...?
...Sorry, but I will NOT kiss the pig...

RON2012PAUL...The r3VOLution continues...
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Nice post.

You and this site were clearly losing it's direction and frankly credibility.

I hope now you will take your responsibility of using the Paul Family Name seriously.

I hope Rand will keep Sarah

I hope Rand will keep Sarah Palin at arm's length. The neocon Republican base has infiltrated the Tea Party. They have positioned Palin as the leader of the neocon arm of the Tea Party movement. Rand would be wise to keep his distance from that tar baby -- she is bad news.

We Ron Paul Republicans need to establish and hold our position as the Constitutionalist's in the Tea Party movement so that the American people will have a choice when the real revolution comes. I have no doubt the real revolution will come with the collapse of the dollar.

"There's no arguing that

"There's no arguing that Palin is showing leadership."

Sorry Michael, but that IS an arguable point. Is she a leader or an opportunist? I think the latter.

Indirectly you acknowledge this by stating, "In my opinion, Palin's endorsement of Rand means that she already thinks he's going to win and she doesn't want to be left behind. She's probably kicking herself for not having endorsed Scott Brown."

Agreed, she wants to be associated w/as many winners as possible regardless of how different their platforms may be. It helps her maintain name recognition and keeps her looking good. This will help her run in 2012 should she elect to do so.

Leaders have principles. This is why Dr. Paul refused to endorse McCain, why he's sometimes the one dissenting vote in the entire house, why he refused to accept medicare, etc.

She did endorse Rand. That's nice. Is it genuine? If you think it is ask yourself how many other liberty candidates has she endorsed? To my knowledge, zero. Where is Debra's, Peter's, RJ's, or Adam's endorsements and so on? Where was Joe Kennedy's endorsement? Nowhere. Their platforms are far closer to Rand's than Brown's or Perry's will ever be. Again, leaders have principles. Endorsing Rand AND Rick Perry shows she has none.

Palin is more concerned about what's best for Palin rather than what's best for America and that is not "Going Rogue." That's politics as usual.

Now, I'll throw in my own disclaimer: "Perhaps she'll eventually surprise us."

it is good for the

it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment.

Well put

"it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment."

Annica2

"it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment." ~ Annica2

best part of this piece...

"Like being infected with a virus, it is a mysterious process that begins with exposure!"

couldn't be said any better.

What's the quid pro quos?

Since Palin endorses Rand, will he endorse her? Playing the endorsement game is old time politics. If you're not careful, letting ambition rule, you can find yourself in bed with strange people. God forbid Rand should be cursed with an endorsement from John McCain.
The very idea that I'd vote for Rand because Palin says so is offensive and an insult to all Kentuckians. I really wish all the outsiders would just keep their noses out of our election.
Getting under the covers with the establishment is not my idea of a new type of Republican. The attraction of Rand Paul is he's not like THEM, he's not part of the Neo-Con establishment.
Rand got this far by being independent, hope he never loses that.

I think

In 1996 they also redistricted Dr Paul and he sent letters to all libertarians for support. At that point is when I became a RP supporter. They tried all the tricks that year.

Bumpty bumpty bump!

Thanks for sharing, Michael, and thank you for continuing to allow us this forum for ideas and debate. We are stronger for it.

Max

"A good End cannot sanctify evil Means; nor must we ever do Evil, that Good may come of it." -William Penn

i share ron's sentiment he expressed in the 1hr mises video

he thinks it's almost certain there wouldn't be enough time before the next crisis, and that the crisis will most definitely hit before the liberty movement can make an impact. on speaking of the big picture, i think that's the ultimate picture, and in that light as we take another look at the scope of things, there's really nothing more important than exposing people to the ideas of liberty, within the shortest amount of time to the largest amount of people, and if couple neo cons get some help along the way, it's still peanuts compared to what's at stake.

when the system collapses, who's currently running for office or whom c4l has ever endorsed won't really matter anymore. what's at stake will depend on how many people have been exposed to the message of liberty. on that note, i don't really care what rand's core belief is or any disturbing amount of faith some dp'ers always seek to place in one person as their "leader" then turn disappointed.

like i said this is almost turning into a political football spectacle. people need to be exposed to the message of liberty, if that includes supporting less than perfect people like rand and sarah palin, so be it. i don't even know why there's even any argument on this--what's the priority? spreading the message of liberty or just making sure we don't ever, ever get misrepresented in the slightest because of feel good reasons?

and i saw some people keep saying they've been lied and cheated by people they trust so much that they got jumpy on the c4l incident and the rand/sarah palin relationship instantly, and with that they tried to justify their rash outbursts. now try to argue with me they didn't speak on emotional, feel-good (or not-to-feel-bad) reasons.

I agree with Michael (mostly)

Overall, you make a strong case for accepting, or at least not rejecting, Palin's endorsement. I agree that there is a political reality. What bothers me, and I suspect bothers a lot of people who otherwise support Rand Paul, is the following statement:

“Sarah Palin is a giant in American politics. I am proud to receive her support.”

This sounds like it came from one of those Palin supporters standing in line at Barnes & Noble who couldn't answer a single question about her policies or positions, not from a candidate who I'm hoping will be a force for real change. I don't mean to overreact, but that is pathetic and worrisome.

We can not let the elitists pick the leadership of the tea party

I am uncomfortable with leadership. It is too easy for judas goats and controled opposition to taks over the whole thing. We need to stick with the holographic model like G Edward Griffith said. That is basically what we have now. I would honestly say that Ron Paul is not our leader, he is our example. Big difference. This must be a movement of people who think for themselves.

Since 1896 the plan has been to put intellectuals in control.

I share your concerns

Since 1896 the elite plan has been to put intellectuals in control.

The opposite of what Griffith and Hoppe recommend.

KBG runs 70% of old Soviet Union. Are our spooks jealous? Do they have the same plan for us? Control thought secrecy and physical, mental and emotional manipulations is nto acceptable.

Leading by example leaves men free to be responsible.

"This must be a movement of people who think for themselves."

Individuals are free to be free. Many hear the invatation. Many take up the challenge of persoanl responsibility. Many share the good news with their friends and neighbors.

Free includes debt-free!

Tell me about 1896

and where I can learn more about it, pls.

First: I think in the context of Kentucky politics,

this is a smart move (think "chess").

Secondly, and more importantly, the idea came to me yesterday that the neos and the cons aren't hijacking US... WE are hijacking THEM!

Okay, some of these people don't know the 1st from the 10th amendment but they are identifying with the Constitution and the Founding Fathers now. WE DID THAT!

The R3VOLUTION has raised the bar and the sheep are coming over to have a look. This is an unrecognized success, in my opinion.

Many Republicans are taking their first steps in our direction. We need to attend future Tea Parties armed with pocket Constitutions and educational material.

Remember when the lightbulb went off for you??? Once that happened, you could never go back. This can happen for millions of new "Tea Partiers" .

We can make it happen.

Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

Michael

Thank you for keeping us informed. You really should have a job in politics; C4L, etc. You would make a great PR person and you understand the dynamics and are flexible enough to see the bigger picture, even though sometimes things may rub you the wrong way- as in the case of the Ken Buck situation. Nice job and God bless.

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That is a disgusting ad video!

It is so gross to watch this killing-organization porn. I hope he wins, but I think he has enough money from us. He is obviously courting -as they say below- the meatheads in Kentucky, let them fund him.

I think it is time to double down on Medina, Harris and Kukesh!!!

Imagine what Medina as governor of Texas could do for Liberty in the whole country.

Imagine what kind of education Kukesh and Harris can perform with our help and our donations.

"it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment." ~ Annica2

Ron Paul

is the one and only candidate that will ever have my full support, and that just took a nice hit in recent days.

Like someone else here mentioned; "this is not a monarchy". Thats exactly right. Just because he is Ron's son means very little.

You know people like John Kerry came into existence because they appealed to a certain revolutionary mindset in their day.

People here keep justifying it the same way the other scum in power is justified. They say its a strategic move or whatever. Thats BS! They think once Rand or whoever gets in, then he'll just become his fathers image. More BS. He's not going to lie to his constituency, and if he does then, well, he is a liar.

If you want to send money and support him, fine. But man-up and realize what you are supporting. Quit whimpering about political strategy and all the other feel-good justification nonsense. Quit trying to make it sound like something it is not...

BTW-Im not directing this at the person this post falls under. IM just saying it to everyone who is letting themselves become deceived all over again...

Why does he need our money anymore?

He obviously is trying to get someone else's cash. Good job winning the race, now let's please move on to someone else.

Good points Michael. It is hard to admit that one has overreacted. The Palin thing is a non issue. Good for Rand, he's getting support from the party that a lot of people want to take back. What's wrong with that? It doesn't change him, or shouldn't. We should be concerned with the message as that is what will be carried forward and imitated. That commercial is atrocious and will garner him much support. It does nothing to further the liberty message but it will get him the elderly vote :P I hate to be so blunt but no one can deny why it was made. Trey has run out of ammo. Maybe the race card will be used.

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Don't keep judging rashly!!

Come on people!!!

Ironically, we still see rash judgments in this very thread, which started as an appropriate apology.

How many lessons will it take?

You know you can TRUST certain candidates, especially when you're talking about Rand Paul, the son of the champion of the Constitution, and maybe the greatest American since the Founding Fathers' generation. Rand understands the enemies of freedom. Of all people, don't you think he would understand how to "play the game" and WIN?!! There is a game being played here. It's a high stakes political game. The young and purists among us may not "get it," but we'd ALL agree that the objective is to WIN, without selling out anything.

Now here's the deal. What if, what if, just maybe, Rand's unworthy opponent tried to paint Rand as weak on the military, as weak against terrorists? Isn't this a possible strategy? It would have been downright smart by his opponent to do this.

But, Rand has struck first with this commercial. Now Grayson would look silly trying to say something like that, or at least, such a false attach would not be as effective.

Patriots, Rand is an experienced soldier. Don't think for a minute he's sold anything out. NOTHING. And don't forget that his father's most brilliant and trusted advisers are providing wise and timely advice to his campaign. Do any of you doubt this point?

And don't forget that truth is on our side, and that means we have the blessings of God our our side.

Rand is a great champion of Liberty. Support him, and please think twice about criticizing him on this forum or to your friends, and thereby take an unwitting part in dissuading someone to vote for or support him.

You must take as your premise that he can be trusted, he's worthy of your complete confidence, that he's on a solid foundation and will not sell out. Trust him. He's got good people surrounding him, and is operating from true principles, just as Medina is, just as Ron Paul is.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

That ad....

stinks of militarism, I don't like it either...he's definitely playing to the leanings of the Kentucky constituency...sad but he probably needs to do this kind of garbage to cater to the meatheads down there in order to win....he better do a 360 away from this kind of mess once in office otherwise he will get roasted by us.....Remember the words of Washington....remember Rand......

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I concur

You said, "he probably needs to do this kind of garbage to cater to the meatheads down there..."

So true. That's what his advisers and himself no doubt think. I think it's a brilliant strategy.

Makes complete sense, if you think "politics", and if you think from the perspective of the propagandized Republican base, whose vote he needs, this is a smart move.

And also, it's smart because it pre-empts an attack ad by his slimy opponent on this topic.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

Rand Paul v Ron Paul

Well Done Mildot,

If you're a criminal suspect you are entitled to all the rights of an accused. If not you are a prisoner of war, entitled to be treated as such. The term 'enemy combatant is an invention to excuse abuse of prisoners.

One should never assume that the child of a great man will themselves be great. One should be ever watchful. The Ron Paul revolution is not a monarchy!

On another note, the Johnson claims against Rand Paul are gross deceit. Look at the claims and look at the official summary they post in support of their argument, (about half-way down). They are polar opposites.

http://genuinegopmom.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-rand-pauls-pos...

Manus
Pro-Life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-worker, pro Ron Paul

Some thoughts

That is pretty disgusting ad. Ron Paul would never do ad like this.

But here now is the question: is this the way to win Kentucky and will this change to more Ron Paulian way of politics if Rand wins or will he keep up with his Gitmo-comments and ads like this? Maybe Ron Paul even sees this kind of ads as necessary if one is to win in Kentucky.

Somehow I think that Rand Paul will be very important to the Liberty Movement and it will be important to get him into Senate and in this sense I think he is the only one among the Liberty candidates that can be allowed to make his Gitmo-comments, etc. I think in a sense he will be either the Gandalf or the Saruman of the Liberty Movement and it is out job to keep his feet in fire so intensively that he won't be the Saruman.

And if he wins the Senate seat and Ron Paul doesn't run for 2012 (Let's truly hope he does run), then I think Rand will run in 2012 with more Ron Paulian way of Foreign policy attitude. Most probably he wouldn't win as other candidates would say he doesn't have any experience, but who knows or he could become vice president candidate for Gary Johnson or somebody else like-minded.

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Great Points

We do need the exposure and educated populace. And think about it - is anyone worried that a paul/liberty supporter is going to change their beliefs to a palin/neocon type? Not me, once you wake up you see past the bs. Michael is exactly right, Palin is just giving away supporters with the endorsement because it's the message that gets people, not the person.

Thank you! This is the

Thank you! This is the article I have been waiting to read. truly insightful.

Finally! Part II

When political tactics are brought out in the open, they lose or gain power when used again. This one will gain. Thanks Micheal for bringing this to light.

What if Sarah endorses Perry and McCain

and Debra Medina wins in Texas and McCain loses to Hayworth.Is she still relevant as a giant in this political movement. Momentum in politics is fickle but truth is not. Let's be careful before we compromise our beliefs too much.