Is Dollar or gold the 'safe haven'?

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Short answer: Gold is the ultimate safe haven.

By Jeffrey Nichols
February 04, 2010 at 11:20

It’s now nearly two months since gold registered an all-time high of $1,227 an ounce, following a five-month run during which the metal rose more than $300 an ounce.

Gold’s strength last year reflected a number of factors: (1) record worldwide private investment demand; (2) net official purchases (after two decades of net selling) as some central banks sought insurance against further devaluation of their dollar-denominated assets; and (3) at times, a weaker U.S. dollar.

Since then, mostly reflecting a temporary “strengthening” U.S. dollar, the yellow metal eased off a bit, falling as low as $1,075 last week – a correction of some 12 percent – before recovering smartly at the beginning of February.

The catalyst to dollar strength – measured against the euro, Europe’s common currency, or a basket of key currencies – has been heightened fear of sovereign default. Most recently, fears that Greece will be unable to meet its public debt obligations has pushed the euro to its lowest point in six months and the dollar to its highest level in five months against a basket of currencies.

It baffles me that so many foreign-exchange traders and institutional investors around the world think of the dollar as a “safe haven.” Just look at the facts:

A proposed a $3.8 trillion budget for fiscal 2011 projects the Federal deficit will balloon to a record $1.6 trillion following last year’s $1.4 trillion deficit – and there is not much hope of bringing the deficit down to acceptable levels in the next few years, particularly with a persistently weak economy, persistently high unemployment, falling tax revenues, and, eventually, rising interest rates that will push the Treasury’s borrowing costs much, much higher.

Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve continues, as it must, to buy Treasury and federal housing agency debt and to hold its key Fed funds policy rate near zero.

Our dysfunctional government lacks the ability to deal with America’s economic problems and the public lacks the stomach or the wallet to take the painful remedies necessary to put America back on the right track.

It will soon become clear that our economy is performing much worse than headlines lead us to believe.

Last week, the Commerce Department reported GDP grew by 5.7 percent in the fourth quarter of 2009. Not mentioned widely in the press, 60 percent of this gain was inventory-related . . . but not even an increase in actual business inventories, just a slower pace of inventory depletion that doesn’t add to industrial activity, real growth, or higher employment.

Instead, domestic consumption and real business investment, that together indicate the pulse of the economy, rose by merely 1.8 percent. And, much of this has been fuelled by government money and Federal stimulus.

The “official” unemployment rate is at 10 percent and likely to be reported higher in the next month or two. Counting part-timers looking for full-time employment and those too discouraged to continue looking, the “actual” unemployment rate is probably close to 20 percent.

Those of us still employed are increasingly anxious that we may soon join our unemployed neighbors while our personal net worth has fallen sharply with home prices and the stock market. As a result, the savings rate is rising – and Americans are spending less. This is not a picture that suggests personal consumption, which typically accounts for two-thirds of GDP, will be sufficient to trigger a virtuous circle of spending, business activity, employment, increased tax revenues, and a naturally decreasing Federal budget deficit.

Monetary and fiscal policy – typified by quantitative easing and a rapidly expanding monetary base, along with various “stimulus” programs that do little to improve our national infrastructure or international competitiveness – are inflationary and will debase our currency’s purchasing power regardless of the exchange rate with the euro or other key currencies.

In fact, it only takes a trip to the grocery store to realize that inflation is much higher than the monthly consumer and producer price data suggest.Continued:

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I ask this.. what currency

I ask this.. what currency has been around since man started walking the face of the earth? and which hasn't.

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

how safe do you want...

anything shy of complete collapse in the short run you want dollars not gold not silver not food not guns.

dollars are the safe play for the entire economic system so dont fight the flow... when the "markets" need safety they run to cash... that means the dollar will strengthen; that is until it cant hold up the weight of the entire system any longer.

you don't have a clue...

you don't have a clue...

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

And when that happens, then what will be sought after?

"...until it cant hold up the weight of the entire system any longer."

Commodities are the answer, when all else fails. If the dollar only collapses 50%, will people still be seeking to possess more failing dollars?

I agree

I am a long term bull on almost all commodities but in the short run as the world works through their debt issues cash may hold its own. If cash doesn't completely collapse you will have opportunities to buy commodities on dollar rallies and you dont have to chase the up moves in the commodities that you like.

I do think people will continue to "chase dollars" for the short run and they will continue to chase them in times of panic simply because they are so liquid. A 50% collapse in dollars will not mean that all commodities will double in value; some will some wont some will do much better even. Follow fundamentals and in time your will see a fine return on your risk but do understand that there is risk involved.

A friend just told me how

important HONEY is and how it can hold up a hundred years. I say HONEY will out perform both dollars and gold.

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Honey and seeds are good to have.

The energy required for bees to produce honey is enormous, and so are its uses.

Over

3 million ounces of silver sold at the mint last month alone

So Far... Both

People who have had their money in the form of either gold or dollars, rather than real estate, or equity mutual funds are doing ok so far. Going forward though, I think the U.S. dolaar may outperform gold for a few years. Markets are irrational and often behave contrary to "experts" forecasts and all manner of rational arguments to the contrary.

Good thoughts. When you throw in the power of the ....

manipulation to create or destroy money times every fiat currency in the world, you get what we have now, a cartel of banksters. As long as their currencies have value, they can buy or sell any commodity thereby making or breaking any company or commodity at they whim.

The final end-process of reducing currencies to zero is a fast one like Iceland, so have a exit strategy if say the dollar went bust in a week.