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Jane Hamsher Mentions Daily Paul on Dylan Ratigan Show

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Jane Hamsher is very bright.

Jane Hamsher is very bright. She reminds me of our own Michael Nystrom, someone with wisdom and patience.

Ventura 2012



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The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

What have we done?

Holy crapola, we are making strides never seen since this country's inception, that is what we have done. We have done all of this, we are either going to restart this country or speed this up, I hope it is the former, and I love it!!!!

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

LOL! "If you look over at the Daily Paul today...

the people are going CRAZY."

When aren't we crazy? ;)

It's really nice to get some recognition and validation...'can't wait until Michael Nystrom starts showing up on mainstream TV.

Thanks for posting this.

As Ron Paul said tonight...

The Ron Paul revolution attracts not just conservatives/libertarians but also progressives. Disaffected Democrats and Republicans donated and worked to get Ron Paul elected. Remember the guy that ran an Obama shop in California that switched to Ron Paul back in 2007/2008?

I have been posting on firedoglake.com (Jane Hamshers site) about how Ron Paul people and progressives can work together on specific issues. Linking to posts on this site.

That nonpartisan spirit was the true power behind the broad appeal to Ron Paul. Freedom is popular among all peoples that let reason trump partisanship. This proud ignorance of the neocons turned tea partiers is not a love of Freedom. It is just pure partisanship. They dont even believe the small government stuff they are feigning. They just believe in small Obama government. They want BIG Republican government asap that goes and invades Iran and starts the draft to destroy a generation of Americans and Iranians. When they bash republicans it is only because they are pissed about the republicans losing to the democrats and are trying to "fix" the republican party... not join Ron Pauls well thought out positions.

There are Ron Paul Republicans and Sara Palin Republicans... who is going to win?

Well said

I'm of the opinion that the Ron Paul Republicans must win if we're ever to live in a Constitutional Republic again.

Interesting. It would appear

Interesting. It would appear we have some things in common.

Need to just take that clip out!

That's just huge - I love how casually she says it, "if you look at Daily Paul, today..."

Somebody should make a montage of these moments - I think there are at least 2 more big ones?

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I love how the woman says

I love how the woman says "only a part of the tea party movement is non-interventionist". Yeahhh, the PART of the movement that consists of people that actually CARE about shrinking the size of government and saving $500b a year almost immediately with some changes in foreign policy.

Anyone who thinks we'll achieve smaller government and/or ever balance budgets or pay down debt or not totally collapse with out a major shift in foreign policy is either uneducated, dumb, or delusional.

“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” -George Bernard Shaw

I'm anti-war...but I have a question

How will the US maintain its stronghold on the oil and gas supplies around the world without the military's help?

I've been wondering...if we are realistic about how the value of the dollar is secured through our military...what our economy would look like without it.

Would we really "save money" overall by bringing the troops home or would the skyrocketing costs of fuel that ensue, combined with the plunging dollar, just cripple us completely and suddenly?

Any thoughts?

we don't need to keep a

we don't need to keep a strong hold.. what are the morons who have the oil going to do? drink it? They will sell it.. let the free market work.. I bet if we were not keeping our "strong hold" on the oil market prices would be much lower..

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

"Morons who have the oil"?

If the dollar ceases to be the reserve currency, the "morons" might begin trading in the stronger currencies, meaning we would have to pay a lot more for it. And that drives up the costs of everything for us.

I think we could easily get the short end of the stick with free trade.

vs us giving everyone else the short end of the stick

like printing a 100 dollar bill for 4.5 cents and getting 1.25 barrels of oil in return. Yep you are right we are getting a better price now, but only because we control the game. That game costs money to run and there are consequences for cheating. Maybe not today, but soon. I would rather have a more honest system. Besides the rest of the currencies in the world are fiat too.

Me, too

I'd rather have a more honest system. I'm just wondering if it's accurate to say our economy would be better if the military came home. I want them home regardless.

sorry but yes

I don't think things would blow up over there like you think. Those people depend on that oil revenue more than we depend on the oil. If the price does sky rocket it would just give the waring parties more incentive to come to an agreement and start raking in that money.

Besides we wouldn't have all this wasted material wealth being blown up over seas. It just doesnt' make any sense to blow crap up and think it can't be a drain on the economy. Why even build expensive bombs? Just build 3 really big ones strapped with suitcases of money to them and set them off in outer space.

Perhaps we'd get our oil from our own country

The U.S. Energy Department announced the results of a land survey.

They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.

Here are the official estimates: 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia 18-times as much oil as Iraq 21-times as much oil as Kuwait 22-times as much oil as Iran 500-times as much oil as Yemen.

And that's just in the Western United States.

No one really wants to talk about why we are leaving it in the ground and sending all of our money out of the country.


In order to have that much oil we'd need about two trillion barrels under the Western US.

I'd really like to see some proof of this claim.

Free trade and free

Free trade and free enterprise would deliver oil at a better price than our current interventionist foreign policy. No only that but we have plenty of our own resources such as Natural Gas.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

If that's true

Why are we going to war for oil, anyway? I mean that honestly, hoping for an answer.

I'm reading a book called "Crude World: The Violent Twilight of Oil." Basically the book supports the peak oil theory. From this book I get the impression that we don't have enough to be self-sustaining for long. The world consumes about 85 million barrels of oil a day; we have about 10 billion (estimated) in Alaska, if it gets drilled, and that's our biggest bonanza.

So we have to rely on outside sources. Granted most of our oil comes from countries we haven't invaded (Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela), but it looks like that's not enough.

So I'm just wondering what role our military plays in coercing other countries to give us a bargain with oil (and, in turn, an economic advantage over other countries with smaller, more moral armies). Iraq stopped trading its oil in dollars and look what happened; Iran followed suit, and now it's looking at sanctions and possible war with the US. Without using our military for leverage and outright procurement, I wonder how much oil we could get from free trade.

Without oil, obviously, the economy would just shut down completely.

Again...just wondering if we would really see a net gain for our economy by bringing the troops home. I'm for bringing the troops home no matter what, but I wonder if it's true that we'd save money, overall.

How about using force of government

How about using force of government to create a global cartel for fossil fuels? A Global cartel that limits production, controls transportation and manages distribution.

Many Federal Reserve member banks rely on oil and gas wealth to back their money. That is petro-dollars. Would a global central bank require a global energy cartel?

On the other hand with over abundant fossil fuels globally would open and free energy markets threaten the petro-dollars? Could this be the real national security emergency? For the wealthy that is.

Free includes debt-free!

Good questions

I think over-abundant energy could threaten the petro-dollars, but I'm not sure if that energy would be coming from fossil fuels or alternative energy and fuel. My thinking is that the globalists want to manage the transition completely from fossil fuels to new energy sources so they retain control. They are anti-free market.

I think the people who are saying we could have an oil shortage in the next few decades, or sooner, are credible. So I think the race to secure oil fields and discover new ones is genuine; if we lost the ability to import enough oil and couldn't meet our present needs, there would be instant, severe problems.

Some thoughts...

Going to war has other motivations than oil.... I question the oil argument myself. Here are just a few others:

Military Industrial Complex: Huge industry (with stockholders) which intends to stay in business and grow their business (on the public's dime).

Black market drug proceeds: have a crucial role in the cash flow of worldwide banking industry and stock market, as well as enriching our government and its agents.

Worldwide military bases: intimidation/security for convincing the world to keep the dollar as the reserve currency... this may be the biggest reason of all for empire.

There are no doubt many more reasons. I guess the question comes down to who profits from empire... and the answer is complex.

re: war in Afghanistan: http://www.prisonplanet.com/us_bombing_of_afghanistan_restor...

I also heard a fantastic audio of a lecturer on 9/11 who went into detail on the drug trade's influence in the stock market and banking. If anyone has the link, will you please post it again?

Lao Tzua...was this it?

CIA, Drugs, Wall Street & 9-11

I agree that there are other financial motivations for war, and all of them could be likewise affected by bringing our troops home, perhaps with a detrimental effect to our economy in general. But oil is definitely one of the main issues that decide where our troops will go.

For example, Iraq invaded Kuwait in the Gulf War for oil; we got involved for oil, as well. Bush Sr. issued a National Security Directive one month before the Gulf War that was made open to the public via Freedom of Information Act. The first line is, "Access to Persian Gulf oil, and the security of key friendly states in the area, are vital to US national security."


Don't forget the FED. They fund both sides of many wars.
Perpetual war is perpetual profit for them. Think they might fund so called terrorists or terrorist attacks? Maybe my thought procceses are screwed up but I have a theory that they could have easily pulled off 911. They have the funds and the secrecy. You don't think they could hire who ever from wherever to do it. Even people who were willing to die to leave their poor families better off. And afford to keep everyone quiet or saying the right things. A printing press could be real handy weapon in many ways.

Well, you save money

by taking advantage of a disaster.. sending in troops and getting relief aid to pay for the occupation, then you take the resources from the nation of which you occupied under the guise of 'helping' and pay off the puppet government that you installed earlier.

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd


That's what Haiti is all about. So horrific, the lengths the US is going to.


We would be the lowest economy of Africa.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.


Uneducated, dumb AND delusional.


Freedom - Peace - Prosperity

At 5:11

He said that "you can't throw government out and need legislation and rule of law."
He has it right but he doesn't understand that it is the rules of law that holds banks accountable. The people have the right to investigate and convict on fraud and other illegal measures..

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.


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