Reaching out to the left, and learning

However, the economic model does seem a bit 18th century and has huge risks for the weakest of our society. I agree with Paul compeating currencies may be good and the fed.. well they are problomatic. If we let the free market reign greed can outwiegh benevolence and peope will suffer greatly. How many diabetics, poor cancer patients would die in the first years of your economic model. How would you geet the majority of doctors to opt into a benevolence model or socialistic lbertarian model (Groups of Docotrs etc volentarly giving away or reducing costs for patients). Some blending of systems must be done in order to wean people however lots of us are sick and will never be able to buy the treatment w3e need under the current model wihtout insurance etc.. I for one would die so see Pauls solution a tad scarry. This does not mean its doabe.

I guess my point is do not discount us liberals, lefities, and socialistists(I am a volentary or libertairina socialist) and have chosen that model cause I think it can help the most people live up t the ideals that each human is prescious to the world itself as they wre given by god certain rights and no on can take them away . I am against most ware if not all and on ly a defensive type of war because it violates the very rights that god has granted the enemy. This is why bieng atnit gay is bad, Anti Musliem, even toruturing others is an infringment against our constitution. Those rights are intrinsic in the natture of man and to deny them is to do violence to onselfe and the world.

I would enjoin you to learn from the socialist, the left y liberal whatver and understand that while I think we should fund the public libraies etc.. which sould do it not by force but by the reckognisiton not to do so is a form of violence on others. We should not be taxed but all dig deep and help each other as humans.

I myself spend 1/4 of my wages helping others in my town and I encourage you to do also. Health clinics and Freeclinics.com are good choices but pick something and join a group of people who donate to specific things which benefit all of society. This is not liberal, conservitie or anything but constittuional. You can blog here talk aout us lefties.. but practicing your beliefs is more important if you want to undrstand the founders intents.

However it must be made known that the constitution is fallable and has been used to enlsave men in many ways as you are aware.. not just economicly but by arguing that woman do not have the right to vote etc.. which is a denile of the rights of man.

Love you all.. I am sleepless thining about how to help humans.

I tried to reach out to Leftists on the thomhartmann.com message board. Thom Hartmann is a self-described progressive. In case you don't know, progressives support fascism and socialism in the name of opposing fascism. I tried to reach common ground with them on issues like war, civil liberties, the war on drugs, etc. No dice. They're more interested in regulating what they think is a laissez-faire economy. They are hopelessly stuck in the Left/Right thing. If you oppose or criticize them, they automatically think that you are a right-winger. They can't seem to wrap their heads around a pro-market, pro- personal liberty, anti-war person. For them, the free market means corporatism.

For starters there aren't enough people here who are interested. Secondly, and what is more sad, is that over the last couple days I've been posting at democraticunderground and as of today I've been banned. I have no idea why. I never said anything rude or derogatory. I never trolled. I engaged in peaceful debate about ideas and tried to bridge the gap between the far left and right. I guess they were intimidated by that. It's sad how closed their minds are. Oh well.

What they hate the most...Math!

I really don't hate them that bad, just don't like people who advocate theft and call me names for not agreeing with them.

So If more people on here had read it and it wasn't advocating for the right (I hate righties just a tick less than lefties) I would choose; Who really cares:...http://www.amazon.com/Who-Really-Cares-Compassionate-Conservatism/dp/0465008232/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265880745&sr=1-1

Its a great book and it does a good job at explaining the idea that Taxes are theft and that charity is better. In my experience it does the best job of angering them b/c it makes them question their core beliefs. But since its still caught in left v right...

The road to serfdom is a great, but the best seller on mises.org Hazlett's Economics in One Lesson is my vote!

I forget what speech I watched on DP that proposed that it was part of our problem. It was weekend watching and the beginning of the lecture the guy showed the history of countries and how much smaller countries became over time. Also pointed out that the Americas were unique in gaining, not losing more states.

"Foreign Policy of Freedom"

And I will go ahead and read "Obama's New Deal" or whatever the book is called.

I agreed with Obama in fact. I never agreed with his corporate socialist bosses at the Fed, who are ultimately the enemy of all in this country....

this idea is so good I am going to place it on the front page - I am sure Michael Nystrom will agree.

well looks like the front page is full for the day -
still Thank you so much for this post - rEVOLution needs new fresh ideas to grow and you just made a beautiful contribution!