Jane Hamsher on HuffPo: Ron Paul vs. Sarah Palin for the Soul of the Tea Parties

that actually works: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/09/anti-tea-party-we...

When you can join the R3VOLUTION and party like it's 1776!

You hit it.

TEA-O-CON

...nice one... ;)
...This is in my vocabulary now...
...Thanks maximus1215...

And have been using the term often, and roundabout the internet.

That would be so cool! I sent my comment in HuffPo to Jane Hamsher's article and informed all of their readers about www.dailypaul.com

Yes, soon Michael Nystrom will be in MSM-interviews:)

I've been following the DP since 2007.
When I first started looking at it, it was nothing but whatever could be scraped from youtube on Ron Paul, postings from mike, jane aitken and the zen piper.

Now, it is a flood of political conversation that is of ultimate relevance to the realm of ideas. It tickles me that Michael's little "my favorite thinker" blog has become the treasure chest of information for semi mainstream news outlets.

While there is indeed a lot of misunderstanding and confusion about Ron Paul's immigration stance among the media, commentariat and the public (just see the debate you've inspired even amongst Paul supporters), nothing in this particular article indicates that Hamsher has gotten anything wrong.

All she says is that she has disagreements with Ron Paul on immigration. Whether you characterize him as pro-immigrant, anti-immigrant, or none of the above, I think it is beyond dispute that Ron Paul's policy views on immigration include:

1. Illegal immigrants should not be granted amnesty or a path to citizenship
2. Birthright citizenship should be ended

As long as Hamsher disagrees with some stance that Ron Paul takes on immigration (& I'd put money on her disagreeing at the very least with #2, which is after all a very uncommon position) then she's right to say that she disagrees with Ron Paul on immigration.

"Despite our disagreements on immigration, unions and host of other issues, I have respect for libertarians like Bruce Fein and Ron Paul who took a lot of arrows in the back from fellow Republicans during the Bush years for opposing FISA, domestic spying, warrentless wiretapping, the wars and the bank bailout."

I'm going out of my way here to defend Jane Hamsher, because this was a very fair and frankly awesome article--and because she and FDL have been amazing allies in the cause of bringing transparency to the Fed. Because, as she points out, her section of the netroots and the Paulites see eye to eye on so much (especially the really important stuff, like empire and basic civil liberties) I'm hoping that collaboration between the two camps will continue into the future. She has demonstrated huge goodwill towards us in the past and in recent days (mentioning DP on TV, writing this article), I see no reason not to extend the same to her.

If there is somewhere else where Jane has mischaracterized Ron Paul's views on immigration, please point it out to me, but she certainly did nothing of the sort here (in fact, she could hardly have mischaracterized his position given that she didn't characterize it at all.)

BTW, while some libertarians are for open borders, Ron Paul, while he very well might think most immigrants are immiGREAT and having more would be immiGREATER, is not among them. He thinks that it is a duty of the Federal Government to monitor the borders, enforce immigration laws, and keep out people who might pose a threat to national security or harbor certain communicable diseases. So yes, though Ron Paul, contrary to popular opinion, does not hate immigrants, that does not imply that he is for open borders; there is plenty of middle ground. Wikipedia tells us that an "open border" is "a border that allows unrestricted entry and exit" and gives as an example the internal EU borders where no travel document is required to cross, nor must you even talk to any sort of border guard. Noone but nutty anarchists like me (and pre-9/11 G W Bush, iirc) would even consider something so absurd.

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Very enjoyable read--thanks to the OP for sharing!