Alert: Pelosi Staffer Leak - Healthcare Bill Done Deal
Submitted by djhengineer0619 on Thu, 02/11/2010 - 23:13
Are we being distracted by the snow and Medina aftermath, while the healthcare bill sleazes into passage, avoiding Senate filibuster?
I heard Rush Limbaugh say today (2/11/10) the healthcare bill is a “done deal”. He said there was a leak from a staffer of Representative Pelosi, the bill passed through the Senate would be given to the President to sign, then “adjusted” in the House for a final version to be signed, by Obama, into law. No date was provided for the event.
Is it true President Obama will sign a Senate version of the healthcare bill to bypass any filibuster by the Republicans?
Could someone confirm this for me?
If it is false, please correct Limbaugh, and I.
If it is true, how do we stop this immediately?





















It will be a done deal
when the speaker thinks she has a majority and calls for a vote. Until then they'll work behind the scenes to get the votes.
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This "Dead Horse" not Beaten
I wrote it long ago, in a comment far, far away...
Keep up the phone calls to Whitehouse, Pelosi, Reid, any and all Congress members. We must match and exceed exponentially the effort the Chicago Thugs in DC are leveraging to pass this infringement on our liberties and assault of the US Constitution.
Kindly remind the "Blue Dogs" how they need your vote to survive this next election.
Please remember the original TeaParty - it was not to serve as a platform for the British to gain your support. The Tea Party was about Americans stating their distrust and disgust of not being represented or acknowledged. Please dis-allow any politicians from using tea parties to make speeches.
Instead, each articulate citizen should take the microphone and state clearly why they feel they are not represented, and specify one aspect of current DC agenda, with rationale, is unacceptable providing alternative solution.
The Republican party is trying to capitalize on the grass roots efforts without cost to thier campaign. Charge them $$ to speak in the microphone, use the funds to support real conservative movement.
"It ain't over, 'till it's over."
- Yogi Berra, NY Yankees coach, cliche master
Told you so
The circus yesterday over Healthcare Bill, will be run through the Senate after consolodation with the House bill. Reid will use Reconcilliation (51 ayes) to prevent a filibuster. AP is already reporting the Dems are going "full throttle up".
Please get off the sidelines, make call to your state representatives. Please remind them: when they vote for Healthcare bill, they will have to "deal with" citizens "getting in thier faces" when they return to live as "citizens" again.
Now is NOT the time for complacency, act now ! Make a difference to embolden Dr. Paul and his peers running for office.
I just called mine, thank you for asking.
Legal is a relative term
Ever seen StarWars 3 ? So much of what a fictional character said about himself and his agenda are now becoming a factual set of events.
It does not matter what is legal anymore - this congress and this president have violated the Constitution, which they swore to uphold and defend.
It is clear, WE must mobilize the tea parties to action (peaceful yet effective). I made suggestions earlier. Please remeber how these good for nothings vote on this Healthcare, November 2010 is the time to introduce a whole new congress to thwarte the Obama-Pelosi-Reid agenda.
Let's not sit in a circle and sing "woe is me", register to vote, host a polling place in your neighborhood, those who are leaders - get yourself on the ballots even if it for local issues. All politics is local.
I don't want to be one of the many, the next day after this next election, to say :
"...so this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause..."
Peace be with you.
Is this even legal?
How is this even legal? I don't see health care listed anywhere in article 1 section 8 of the constitution. Maybe if the federal government tried to do health care the legal way (by passing an amendment, or by just letting the states take care of it) than the people wouldn't be so fired up right now. The average American is starting to get fed up with the US government completely ignoring the constitution!
Chris
http://www.decayingsociety.com
Obama health care strategy: Hold a summit
The summit is just hot air to buy time to resurrect the bill in some form, then if it fails he can blaim it on the "haters".
Why do you think it's being televised? He's "outing" the "haters" on national television so he can save his presidency.
Hard to understand how someone smart enough to land the presidency can be so stupid as to define their term by one issue. This proves he's a puppet.
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RON PAUL 2012
I believe in state's rights, but...
The TARP was an indication of the Federal Government trumping the power of the Governor.
Our, SC Governor Sanford, before going for a "hike" was refusing the funds from the Federal Government so as not to be directed how it would be spent.
In short, it really doesn't matter what your state government has in place, DC has Chicago Gangsters' lawyers to bypass your state soveriegnty laws.
2 things - 1) Vote out the misery of Congress 2) Voice your opposition to this heathcare bill, directly to your Congress onsite, on phone, on their fundraising sites - crash them.
Here is an example of a bill that will be presented to our
State legislature here in Minnesota in consideration of Federal 'Mandates' in support of State's Rights:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H3012.0.html...
Thanks to Tom Emmer(Republican) who is behind this bill! Tom is currently running for Governor of our State. He is an attorney and very Constitutional.
Obama's Waterloo
People, please swamp your representative's phone lines rejecting this takeover of 1/6th US economy by the "Obama". Let them know we don't want this heathcare bill.
While they sit in this "Dog and Pony show", you now have the ability to crash their fundrasing sites and load up their facebook pages and phone messaging systems with LIAR !
Remember the tea parties, don't blow this opportunity off.
Done deal?
Only in the minds of the elitists. States' rights trump the fed. Nullification will become a bigger issue as some have already noted.
People will start trouncing the establishment closer to home and that's as it should be. Remember the adage "all politics is local".
This legislation will crumble.
"Nuclear option"
This Healthcare bill is being prepared to be attached to the next spending bill.
This strategy forces Senate to confirm a budgetary bill with only 51 Senatorial votes. No Filibusters allowed on budget bills.
Please remind your senators Republicans and especially Democrats), if they wish to continue living in D.C., not to vote "Yea".
It's going to be a done deal, just make sure to take names of all those, both the House and Senate who vote for it, then kick them out in November 2010.
I stand by my earlier conviction, who here, could run for office ? I'd vote for you instead of any incumbant.
The Growing Movement to Nullify National Health Care
In 2010, residents of Arizona will be voting on a State Constitutional Amendment that would let them effectively opt out of any proposed national health care plan. Legislatures in Florida, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania are also considering similar State Constitutional Amendments.
And now, Missouri is joining them. According to a report in The Missourian, “Rep. Cynthia Davis, R-O’Fallon, pre-filed a bill Dec. 1 that, if approved by voters, would effectively put a halt on any national health care legislation. Davis said her intent was to give voters a way to protect themselves.”
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/12/09/the-growing-m...
Thank you for the updates
I suspect there will be quite a few in the Midwest that will consider that as well. Your link was great, and it was good news to read that many doctors are not marching to the statists' beat.
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
secede
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here's an article
http://forgottenliberty.com/2010/02/pelosis-plan-to-pass-hea...
Despite President Obama’s recent rhetoric about reaching out to Republicans and getting their input on health care reform, a sneaky plan is underway to pass health care without any help from Republicans. Wendell Primus, the top health care adviser to Nancy Pelosi, believes it can be passed by Easter. If I’m understanding the complicated and tricky plan correctly, the House would pass the Senate bill, Obama would sign the Senate bill, then the House would pass another bill changing the Senate version. According to Anna Edney of CongressDaily,
Cont'd in article
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But MA
elected a known Neocon to stop the health bill from passing.
Doh!
And Brown
did a flip flop 24 hours later:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/122225
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Bump...
let's keep this updated.
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
My guess is ... the healthcare bill(s) is dead.
R.I.P.
But before it died...it gave birth to a great deal of anger...which lead to a more "universal" movement to "downsize DC". Together with the mismanagement of the economy ( at least from a main street view ) I do believe the message of Liberty & Privacy is beginning to reach even those who have lived in denial till now.
Without a doubt...the healthcare bill is BAD NEWS...but as will all things, positives counter effects can be realized. It took something like this to PUSH it over most peoples "line in the sand".
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I doubt that it actually died
this type of junk has a way of resurrecting itself.
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
Can't be done.
He can only sign the version agreed to by both chambers.
He could sign a Senate version all he wants. It can't become law, EVER.
The whole process would have to be started over again.
i made a post on this
i made a post on this yesterday without getting any interest called obamacares second wind. Its being done through some undemocratic process called reconcilliation or conciliation. no votes is what i heard on the radio yesterday. i dont know if its a done deal or not. laws have been entered into the federal register before without a vote. and i dont mean executive orders.
"We must re-take the Republican Party"-Ron Paul. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlqXq8YxQFQ
Thanks, ruckmanite
THis is getting to be enough to make me sick! (yes, pun intended.)
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
If you know the bill number,
If you know the bill number, please post because it can be easily researched in Thomas.gov. Also if the bill passed the Senate, it must also pass the House before landing on the President's desk.
Downsize DC should have it or CPR
www.downsizedc.org
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
HR3200
The information I heard from Limbaugh:
"...Nancy Pelosi’s top health care aide Wendell Primus admitted top Democrats have already decided on the strategy to pass the Senate's pro-abortion, government-run health care bill..."
"...Primus explained that the Senate will use the controversial reconciliation strategy that will have the House approve the Senate bill and both the House and Senate okaying changes to the bill that the Senate will sign off on by preventing Republicans from filibustering. 'The trick in all of this is that the president would have to sign the Senate bill first, then the reconciliation bill second, and the reconciliation bill would trump the Senate bill..."
Could someone please verify this information ? Not just it came from Limbaugh, but the validity of this procedure.
Thanks.
I just did
a quick thomas.gov search. There are 3 related bills:
HR3200
S1796
S2806
Last major action was S2806--on 11/19 it was read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions.
HR3200--last major action was 10/14--placed on Union Calendar, #168
S1796 -last major action was 10/19--placed on Senate Legislative Calendar
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Thank you .
I'm jotting these down for further reference.
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
Personal Nullification.
I refuse to participate in government health care program.
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