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Illinois Senate Meets in Secret Today
February 17th, 2010

This is pretty weird.

Via: Chicago Tribune:

The Illinois Senate plans to meet behind closed doors this morning to hear a presentation by experts about state budgets and the national economy, a move that open government advocates called baffling.

The unusual secret gathering is being billed as a “joint caucus” of the majority Democrats and the minority Republicans, two groups that represent the entire 59 members of the Illinois Senate. The caucuses routinely meet separately to plot partisan strategy, and the public is not invited. But a joint meeting is very rare.

The spokeswoman for Senate President John Cullerton, D-Chicago, said the event will be closed because the presentation to be given by the Denver-based National Conference of State Legislatures will not fall under the state Constitution’s requirements to be open.

But David Morrison, a top official with the Illinois Campaign for Political Reform, said the move doesn’t make sense.

“Setting aside the legal issues, I can’t imagine what the NCSL is going to say that’s so top secret that the general public will not be allowed to hear it,” Morrison said.

The Constitution says, “Sessions of each house of the General Assembly and meetings of committees, joint committees and legislative commissions shall be open to the public.

Sessions and committee meetings of a house may be closed to the public if two-thirds of the members elected to that house determine that the public interest so requires; and meetings of joint committees and legislative commissions may be so closed if two-thirds of the members elected to each house so determine.”

Cullerton’s spokeswoman, Rikeesha Phelon, said in an email, “Since a caucus is neither a legislative session or committee meeting, the public meeting and notice requirements of the constitution do not apply.”

Patty Schuh, the spokeswoman for Senate Minority Leader Christine Radogno, R-Lemont, said the event was an initiative of Cullerton’s majority Democrats and that “they want it closed.” Schuh said she did not anticipate public business will be conducted.

Donald Craven, a longtime attorney for the Illinois Press Association who also has represented the Chicago Tribune on open government issues, disagreed with lawmakers’ interpretation.

“A joint caucus is a meeting of the Senate as a whole, either as the Senate or as a committee of the whole,” Craven said. “This is not a social gathering. This is designed to discuss public business.”

The same conclusion was reached by Charles N. Wheeler III, who has followed Senate activities for four decades as a statehouse reporter and journalism professor at the University of Illinois Springfield.

“What prompts this idea for secrecy?” Wheeler asked, saying it sets a “bad precedent.”

“This is not homeland security coming to brief the legislative leadership on plans to secure the capitol in the case of a terrorist attack,” said Wheeler. He said he could not recall the two caucuses in the Senate ever meeting together behind closed doors for such a presentation.

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CAFR

I have a feeling they wanted to talk about the Illinois State (CAFR) Comprehensive Annual Financial Report

Question

I'm only speculating but, given the severity of the economy and the abysmal condition of most of the state budgets, I'd say it's to figure out just what they can do in that regard.

I'm not a legal scholar but the fact that BOTH sides are meeting does seem to warrant public access so this raises a red flag for me that they are holding it behind closed doors. The fact that it's a meeting with the NCSL seems irrelevant to the question of public access since both sides are present and that is the qualification for public access.

Jim Tucker, where are

Jim Tucker, where are you?!!!! LOL.

Any friends of liberty in the Illinois legislature that are

willing to secretly record or at least report openly on what happens in the meeting?

I think we should get a commitment upfront if so.

Then blast it all over the net.

Everyone - check legislative calendars. Is this scheduled to happen anywhere else?

Could this be where they are handed "pre-written" bills ready to go, off the shelf, that institute a new regime?

Checkout the Day the Dollar Died Series by John Galt.

It is eerie.

http://johngaltfla.com/blog3/category/the-day-the-dollar-die...

wouldnt it be great

if we could get someone to bug the meeting and post it on youtube, hulu, and other nefarious web sights.

The idea is to keep the public (and the media)

from learning what is said. My guess: It's advice on how to save their lives when the big collapse happens and the public goes ape-shit. The proposed solution may be to take them and their immediate families to a safe detention center, just until safety returns of course -- the same thing for local government officials, anyone who could lead a resistance...

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

Anyone here in Chicago?

to attempt to attend/protest this since -

The Constitution says, “Sessions of each house of the General Assembly and meetings of committees, joint committees and legislative commissions shall be open to the public."

Not interested in their semantics.

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

please include link

thanks

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