In interview with Mark Davis, agreeing with his words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3OTXSK09fs
She also says should have answered Glenn Beck's question better.
Ok, so that's settled.
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Anyone that can't see....
that she is not a polished politician
and that she was just trying to move on
to more important topics are not looking
at the big picture.
Give her a break!
It was quite obvious that the host was not
going to let up until she agreed with him.
Beck is the problem
He is the cause of the confusion and firestorm. His intentions were to sick the hounds on this campaign. Yes, Medina hasn't put this to bed as she should have but at this point it is behind her and bloggers are keeping it alive. Let's put this to bed too and change public opinion outside of this campaign. Debra promises freedom of opinion, something you won't get from much of anyone else running or in office. Lets blame the mainstream media for turning people against the peoples candidates through their subversive tactics like this. The root of the problem should be the focus. Pushing hard against Beck would be the best way to set that example.
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GET OFF THE CRAP ABOUT
GET OFF THE CRAP ABOUT "TRUTHERS"
YOU GOT THREE CHOICES FOR OUR NEXT GOVERNOR OF TEXAS DEBRA MEDINA, RICK PERRY AND KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON
WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT?
FOCUS ON THE PRIZE NOT ALL THE BULLSHIT.
WE GOT 12 DAYS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN!
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Well
If she does not believe in every little detail we want her to,then we do not want her.We would rather have no one.
"They used to come get you and lock you up because you were insane, Now they come get you and lock you up because you are sane"
Are
you being serious or sarcastic? Because as much as I love Ron Paul, I don't agree with everything he espouses. I think it's impossible to agree with any one person all the time!!
Get real, people! Who is the candidate whose beliefs are closest to your own? In this case, which candidate is actually sincere about restoring Constitutional government? Medina...
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Well If
you are going to throw stones at her ...
make sure you save enough to toss at Rand Paul for
saying Palin would make a good prez .. (yuck)
he didn't turn from accepting her interventionist support ... It's all politics folks (yuck again)
Rand said...
Rand said "could". He didn't say she WOULD be a good president.
.
~wobbles but doesn't fall down~
No difference
If she could, she would, but she can't, because she is NOT qualified!!!
she "could" become qualified.
she "could" become qualified. it's not impossible, she's human and has free will.
action doesn't care about ron
action doesn't care about ron paul or rand or debra. he is a beck supporter who joined the forum 2 days ago to try to save beck.
I definitely
question Action's motives...
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What the 1984 is this?
Exactly why did the mods edit the "truthy" title of this thread and remove all refrerence of the fact that Debra Medina agreed to the statement that 911 truthers are despicable?
Despicable!
Whats going on around here?
Stooping to sleezy political games
I thought Daily Paul was about the Truth, regardless of whom it might offend.
She has a lot to learn
about 911. Her awakening will be rude. But her mind is on Texas and she is focused and she is busy. She has my vote and support monetarily. When the time comes for her to know what happened on 911, she will get there, I am sure. How she has missed it up until this point keeping the company that she keeps, I have no idea. Maybe she has always just focused on the task at hand. I know Ron Paul does not give 911 a second thought, whether I think he should or not. I 100% support Dr. Paul in spite of his public stance on 911. It hasn't hindered his work.
I can't believe this...
...do you honestly think that RP or Debra Medina would come out and state that 911 was an inside job? It's political suicide! I don't doubt for a second that it was a 911 job, but I sure as hell wouldn't let that viewpoint leave my mind if I was running for office.
POLITICAL SUICIDE!
RP would never be where he was today if he admitted his real thoughts on 911. He would have been relegated to where they have been trying to relegate him this entire time...the lunatic fringe.
Neither of them believe in
Neither of them believe in the inside job theory. Their documented statements do not fit your statements. Admit they don't agree with the inside job theory and leave it at that.
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Agreed and well put!
Agreed and well put!
Debbie
ok
title changed.
Ron Paul is My President
Disgusting
Why did you obscure her sentiments about 9/11 truthers?
Thanks Sunny
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Sometimes...
Sometimes in conversation people's "Yeah" is really "Yeah, but that's totally irrelevant" or "Yeah, whatever".
Medina did it with Beck and she's doing it now.
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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~
Agree with you - he kept
Agree with you - he kept trying to keep on that subject "one more time" and she finally got him off of it and on to talking about Texas.
Debbie
It was, "Yeah...I agree with you, Mark..."
...and she agreed to his attacks more than once.
That is unacceptable. She needs to change her approach if she is to be taken seriously when she says people should be able to question the gov't.
I do agree with sunny below that the poster of this thread may have had ill intentions, but frankly, I think his target was truthers, not Medina.
Jiminy, c'mon now, you must
Jiminy, c'mon now, you must be smarter than that.
Was quasi-associating Medina w/nazis also not meant to target Debra?
In regards to our previous exchange on this thread the reason Beck could only say to RP Jesse's points were reasonable was because they were not in dispute. Bin Laden's page on the FBI's site is the same now as it was then.
Other liberty candidates should follow a similar lead.
They should also quote people like John Farmer, Max Cleland, Tom Keane, and Lee Hamilton.
After referring to such damning material a candidate could say "its for reasons like these people have questions" and the situation would be immediately diffused.
If you're talking about his comment...
...on the thread 'Beck Has Gone Too Far! - Trashes Medina as a Nazi', while I disagree with him, Action was disputing that Beck was referring to her as a Nazi.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125837#comment-1350962
But what Action said about Medina in that comment supports my thoughts that she was not his target on this thread, but rather, truthers, because he said she doesn't seem to be part of the lunatic fringe after her recent comments clarifying her views.
Apparently her ~clarifying~ met with his approval.
So I take it he is quite pleased that Medina clearly agreed with Davis' attacks on truthers/inside jobbers. I can almost hear sickening delight in these words from the OP, "Ok, so that's settled."
Yes, his original title 'Debra Medina unequivocally agrees the belief that 9/11 was an inside job is a "despicable" belief' struck me more as expressing satisfaction against truthers/inside jobbers than an attempt to slur Medina, as sunny had suggested.
His comment on another thread about people wanting investigation for incompetence/neglect vs. investigation for inside job also gave me the impression that his target was truthers and not Medina. http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125775#comment-1350899
I do not disagree that Action's presence seemed quite ill-intentioned. But if this thread reflected negatively on Medina, as sunny seemed to think from her reference to the title as a slur, that is on Medina for agreeing multiple times to attacks and condemnation of truthers/inside jobbers.
She should not have done that and she should deal with it. People who are making excuses (not to imply that you are) for what she did, or trying to pretend she wasn't agreeing with Davis' attacks, are not helping.
Even if people here are forgiving, or in denial, that doesn't mean her opposition won't leap on the chance to point out the hypocrisy of her taking the stance that it's ok to question the gov't, and then turning around here and jumping on the bandwagon to bash people who question 9/11 beyond whatever she thinks is questionable about the commission report.
Her opposition will not need to be in agreement with truthers. They will only need point out her apparent hypocrisy in this regard.
As for what you are saying about candidates following the lead of what RP did with Beck, I think that is a good idea and I hope Medina adopts that approach.
Beck...
Beck specifically called Medina a "fascist". On tv, not radio. When he was putting the mugshots on the chalkboard thingey.
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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~
I believe you. It wasn't me disputing the association Beck made.
It was the poster of this thread.
Personally I don't view
Personally I don't view Debra's comment regarding the truth movement as bad. Whether by accident or intentionally she chose the correct words. Thinking one's gov't would attack it's own people IS a despicable thought. That doesn't make it an untrue thought. It's also quite different from saying truthers are despicable people.
On a similar note Rand stated Palin "could" make a good president.
The bizarre part of this whole episode is Beck attacked Debra for somehow being part of a movement which she has no affiliation with. No video or audio has surfaced of her attending or speaking at a 9/11-truth event. It's pathetically disingenuous to think he wanted to attack truthers and not Debra when many if not most of the leaders in the movement would seize the opportunity to go on a national show like Beck's and discuss 9/11. But Beck and others don't want to discuss specifics as it highlights the unpleasant truths of the day. It's easier to speak in broad generalities and poke fun.
Please re-read my comment above.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125967#comment-1352475
When you say,"disingenuous to think he wanted to attack truthers and not Debra", realize it was the poster of this thread to whom I was referring, not Beck.
As to the other...
One's gov't attacking its own people is what's despicable, not simply suspecting or believing that they might have, especially if there is reason to believe it.
Not sure how you don't view her agreement as bad, though. She collectivly marginalized people who would question things beyond gov't inas a "paranoid cult". :(
I do not lean the direction of inside job and/or demolition because of paranoia.
To lump people into some convenient, derogatory stereotype, as she did by agreeing, is not ok.
And you are right. People justifying things like this is the same as people justifying Rand's statement about Palin because of the word "could". It is just as ridiculous.
Rand blurred any difference between the word "would" and "could" when he ~upgraded~ Cooper's word "good" to "great" regarding the idea of Palin being president.
Rand gave the impression that he is favorable about the idea of Palin being president. Medina gave the impression in this interview that she despises people who would question the gov't if they suspect nefarious intent by anyone in the gov't in the attack on 9/11.
The big problem with this Medina situation is that her stance here just adds to the notion that is being cleverly crafted in the media that the only thing people are allowed to question or believe about 9/11 with regard to the gov't is incompetence or neglect, and anything beyond that is off limits.
As for Beck, if he hadn't run with trying to marginalize her as a truther, that would've been his next move.
Unfortunately, she took the bait with Davis.
We'll agree to disagree. I
We'll agree to disagree. I have no problem w/Rand's response to Cooper about Palin nor do I have an issue w/DM's comment that believing the gov was behind 9/11 is a despicable thought. Heck, even AJ has said countless times he wishes the 9/11 attack was real and not a false-flag op.
I'm also sensitive to the fact that Rand, Debra, and all the other Liberty candidates who are running are attempting to do something highly difficult and improbable: be an outsider to win a race. Therefore some of the answers may not be what we'd ideally like. These are people fighting for every dollar and vote. They might have to tip-toe a bit. Cut 'em some slack, you'd want the same.
For those who are miffed at her ask yourselves this:
What upsets you more? Debra's response to Mark Dice OR Beck's ploy working and Debra losing to Rick Perry.
I hope it's the latter.