Michael how about a new rule.

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I dont believe that newbies should be allowed to comment until they are atleast a week old and shoudnt be allowed to post a thread until they are atleast a month old .I spent months reading this site before I ever made a comment and even longer before I posted a thread.Its quite obvious what "new " infiltrators are trying to do.And by letting just any newbie comment only provides aide and comfort to the enemy.

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Tyrranical tendencies

Restricting free speech, heh? Maybe it is you who needs a time-out.

Welcome to the real world

Everyday we go out into the real world and meet with people of differing backgrounds and opinions. How many of us have run into people that are so afraid that they piss themselves at the thought of abandoning our Mideast misadventures?

Or people who consider the 911 Commission Report to be the final word for war unending

Or people who think government can do no right at home but can do no wrongs to our neighbors?

Let the debates begin! Let the ideas stand on their own merits. Let fear, uncertainty and despair be put into perspective. Often when debating in the real world, man to man, I have seen their arguments here at DP, and have discovered counter-arguments I can stand behind.

My father used to troll for walleye in the St. Clair River. You hang you bait in the water and steer you boat slowly over where the fish are, you hope. Is the troll to blame or does the fish have some responsibility? Fresh fish!

Also consider other motivations for creating a new account. More than one poster here has abandoned their old ways, and have turned over a new leaf. Others come from other sites where their posts were respected and their ideas may have even been welcomed. (I see have seen a few of experienced C4L posters here.)

The key question is, Can a troll learn new ideas? By definition the answer is no. But your labeling them as trolls ignores the individual at the keyboard.

Do we support their right to speak? Are our the ideas so weak or meek that they they must be protected from verbal attack with censorship?

Welcome all!

Free includes debt-free!

to the "Trollkiller" (not the creator of this post)

I did not delate your comment attacking me and other mods - another mod did as I was just about to reply to it.

first of all I do not promote beer drinking on daily paul -
and I was not a poster of this fine post -
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/104214

secondly what I do in my privacy is my own thing and you as a libertarian can also do as you please gambling e.t.c...as long as I don't ask you to buy me beer it should not matter to you - unless you have an urge to control others a fascist urge in it's nature.

I am waisting my time now the time that I could have spend on my important work -

in the future hope to see you posting productive things here -

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My original question remains unanswered

Who are all the mods for this site?

they want to stay secret I guess

I am perhaps the only one who openly admits to being one -
I can't reveal their nicks without their permission to do so.

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Thank you for responding

I would not have thought this secret.

God bless you for taking the heat!

Bad Mod!

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Can't we all just get along?

Can't we all just get along? Don't we have enough enemies in the world without making them amongst each other?

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

well said patriot

That is why a proper response had to be send to Mr troublemaker -

no attacks on other DP members no flame wars!Period.

peace*))

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Consider it.

Not all DP members are Ron Paul supporters.

Further, if DP is being used by the RNC or a state's GOP to get breaking news about troop movements, numbers, direction and tactics, then the poster who is posing that information *should* be taken to task for hurting what the hardworkers in the state in question are doing as it undermines their efforts.

There were specific examples from the campaign where exactly that happened and it didn't help the Ron Paulers battling hard on the ground when a member was trying to show off how much they knew here on DP, when the enemy was using DP as their radar to detect the movements of the very Ron Paulers battling them.

There are FBI infiltrators and moles in our movement.
Most of the time, it's good for them to get the freedom firehose of information and perspective.

Sometimes, it's not when there is something critical going on, say inside a campaign or on a convention floor, when a poster posting senstive information should be told to stay quiet for a short time.

I'm not trying to squelch anyone's "freedom of expression", but there's a proper time and place for everything and sometimes, very occasionally (rarely), silence serves the movement best as not everyone on here is a friend.

many good points

DailyKos for example you have to wait a week before posting your own thread - until then you can just comment...

just to make sure everyone understands I have nothing against the idea put forward by the creator of this post - let's have a healthy exchange of opinions on this issue - in my above comment I only spoke to a person by the nickname Trollkiller.

with the coming all important election day in Texas trolls are coming out strong here I can see that - but there are few and we manage great response - no problem.

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Don’t do this Michael..

leave intervention for Governments.. you will please the consumer by leaving this open for all at all times.

The role of a farmer, in Fukuoka's mind, is an observer, not an intervener, of the natural order in his/her particular landscape. How is that any different than Hayek in regards to Economics?

Oh, for God's sake...

"Newbie" is defined various ways around here, mostly by those who have read a comment that they did not like. Tell me, oh ones who have been here longer than I, when does one get the right to make comments?

Gosh, I thought we were all about smaller government and fewer regulations; we therefore are responsible to defend our own beliefs and our own actions. So why do we need Michael Nystrom, or anyone else for that matter, to concoct some rule to protect us against the infiltrators?

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

exactly! we are capable of

exactly! we are capable of defending ourselves against the tactics of the establishment. a rule like this is no different than body scanners at airports. if people want to invade this forum and post anti-liberty stuff, they will. let it come, and defend liberty when it does.

I confess, ksack, that I

I confess, ksack, that I clicked on your username because I didn't recognize you. Great post and welcome!

There are things more invasive than whole-body scanners coming to airports. TSA is developing a technology called FAST ("Future Attribute Screening Technology") designed to detect the malicious thoughts of potential terrorists. This uses physiological signals such as heart and breathing rate, skin temperature, and eye movement to indicate violent or evasive thoughts.

I should plug the group I am involved in more often:

Operation De-Fuse: Getting to Know Big Brother and the Fusion Centers
www.operationdefuse.com

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

new members should be allowed

new members should be allowed to comment, the only thing this type of rule does is save you some time from checking out a posters history.

It does take a bit more effort, to judge each person by their ideas and I supose the membership time ( I love how most hte anti 9/11 posts seem to come from 2monthers or 1 weekers) thats how I do it.

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

This was a very statist

This was a very statist comment, just letting you know. This kind of thinking is completely opposite liberty.

Free your mind, let things happen. Order comes through liberty, not through a select group of individuals (which is completely opposite the normal line of thinking, of course).

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i'm new

just so you know i have been reading this board for about 6 months, am i allowed to voice my opinion now? pretty please?

i know there are trolls that pop up from time to time, but why should they be silenced? they have every right to voice their (mostly flawed) opinions, and we have every right to debate with them. it doesn't hurt our effort, mostly it's just good practice for us patriots who are still learning!

don't worry patriot

I am one of the moderators here and Welcome you - you are as important as the person who registered over 2 years ago.

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HERE HERE!

HERE HERE!

Who are all the moderators?

I can't find a complete list anywhere.

I Think Michael Gets Them Off The Short Bus...

when they graduate...hey it's better than Carl's JR.

(well not all of them)

Revolt For Freedom !!!
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Uncalled for man

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You Think You Know So Much About The Moderators Here???

want to start a thread about it? There are 3 that are worth having here and the rest could be thrown to the wayside and the result would be a great improvement to the Daily Paul.
Start the thread...

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My opinion?

24-7 they are all needed,Or Mr. Nystrom would never get rest.

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You Are Wrong...

and it does not matter

Revolt For Freedom !!!
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ATruestatement from

ATruestatement from ATruepartriot

Even if the actions are taken against me

I appreciate the moderation,for control of a possible loose cannon.

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More important in some ways.

Probably a reference to gold and silver bimetallism of 125 year ago, but is an interesting notion.

Make new friends
And keep the old
One is Silver
And the other Gold!

Free includes debt-free!

And another thing (because

And another thing (because the very idea proposed in this thread angers me), whose viewpoint do you think you are pushing? All should be welcomed here as long as they do not incite others or spam up the forum.

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