Ron Paul "infomercials"
Submitted by FreeJesseVentura on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 22:07I'm repeating this (I had just posted it as a response in a thread, but I think it needs its own thread).
I'm already a converted Ron Paul supporter and don't need to be convinced. The more penetration that Paul's message has in the "MSM" increases the odds of his being considered exponentially. I heard an interview on NPR tonight of numerous voters who were flip-flopping in their support... mainly because they were not aware of the positions of the candidates.
Here's an idea... maybe the biggest idea of my life. The campaign needs to hire a company to create 1/2 hour "informercials" that would run all night on cable TV. This would be a good, cheap way to reach Americans completely uninformed about Dr. Paul, and as we've seen, debates are no way to reach out to people due to the newness of Paul's message. You have to "sell" the idea of Republican libertarianism to the American public. Dr. Paul is too polite and non-confrontational to kick butt and take names in a debate format.
I'm absolutely certain that a truthful, impactful long-form commercial would be perfect for the campaign, and it would be money well spent by explaining in detail the reasons why Paul's positions make a lot of sense.
I challenge this idea against any of the campaign's ads in terms of dollar-for-dollar effectiveness.
Donations?
If I had a way of KNOWING that a good airtime infomercial was going to be played, I might be able to convense myself to part with $1000 of my tax refund. Is there any such place, I just wish the official campaign would start talking about this.
Great idea
Persistent persuasion -- it's a wonderful strategy
Mom / Wife / Teacher / Christian for Ron Paul
I 100% agree
He needs money, a lot more than anybody else, cause he's gonna have to buy his airtime. It's Ron Paul for me or nothing! He's going up against the Establishment. I do think, like has been posted by others before, that they should run infomercials. It should be a la Kevin Trudeau(love him or hate him) they an are extremely successful format, and should be aired as often as possible maybe for 30 or 45mins, maybe they could use the same TV network since it's mostly about selling natural cures and remedies, which Dr. Paul is all for. I still meet people that haven't heard about Ron Paul, but I believe once they hear his message and his name over and over again, it will sink in. How many times do we here on the MSM Romney, McCain, Huckabee(since CFR backing) Giuliani and Thompson?
Anyway, even if the good Doctor doesn't win the Rep. nomination, having lots of cash onhand will come in handy for an independant run, if he ever decides to pursuit it.
I agree on the infomercial
I agree on the infomercial...but there is one problem with your logic when it comes to "CHEAP". I have been buying Television Ads for the past 22 years, and have some inside connections on how it works. Here are the sad facts.
As a business owner, that advertises on TV, I as a business owner can negotiate TV spot prices up and down. If I buy enough spots, the companies such as NBC, CBS, Fox, etc will even film and Professionally edit the commercial. I have purchased TV spots for as little as $4. Yes I said $4. That is for a late night spot, covering only the Portland Oregon market on cable. I have paid as little as $20 for a overnight spot on the MSM. Well, here is how the entire game changes when it comes to political ads.
First off, the television stations understand that all of this money is coming from donations, and they understand that these candidates have to advertise...so any political ad...they rape them. Also. The television stations have a seperate rate sheet for political ads THAT THEY WILL NOT BUDGE ON. The reason why they will not budge, as I have been explained, is because they have to have a set rate sheet that is set in stone so every candidate gets the same price. And they make this rate sheet SKY HIGH!! So if I were to pay $20 for my local business ad....if it were a political ad...the exact same space will now cost $400. This is how it works. The TV stations love political season...can you see why?
Spotrunner
Use Spotrunner to make all media buys. It's impersonal and gives good competitive rates.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
Here's one up on ya! Let's
Here's one up on ya!
Let's do this same thing, but for FREE!
Well, virtually.
Refer to my thread, http://www.dailypaul.com/node/15001, about putting RP on public access television!!!
We can create our own show, or infomercial, or whatever as I am doint(and I need hi res vids and input!!!), or jsut use whatever the campaign puts out like the Iowa stuff!
But if we ALL put RP on our local public access channel, he will be known to everyone.
How it works is one person gets one time slot per week, so if ten people put RP stuff up, that's ten hours, or five if you do a half hour segment, per week of Ron Paul exposure!!!
The more of us that utilize this FREE outlet, the better.
WE ARE THE RON PAUL MEDIA!!!
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Oh, no you didn't just
bump me!
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
Right on! I sent these emails to RP Hdqtrs. 12/10
Sent to Ron Paul Campaign 12/10/07 via the contact page on his website:
PLEASE!!! Go to this webpage http://www.obamala.com/.
This webpage was created by a life-long, hard core DEMOCRAT from L.A. who did support Obama, but saw the YouTube videos and has changed his mind and his website to support of Dr. Paul.
In it he states that the supporter created videos were what convinced him, and the friends he has shared them with, to vote Republican for the first time in his life. He lists the ones that influenced him further down the page on his website. Why not use these for TV ads? They have already proved that they work…
These are the kinds of TV ads we need - concise, hard hitting, zeroing in on the freedom message and what is at stake in this election. I’m sure the creators of these videos would be honored to have their video used as a TV ad for Dr. Paul. Just get their permission and RUN WITH THEM – QUICKLY! Because, quite frankly, the TV ads you are running do not have the punch that many of these supporter created ones have.
Second email 12/10/07
Hello again,
Watching some of the longer YouTube videos that would make such powerful ads, I was trying to figure out how they could be cut down to the average TV ad length and still keep their power.
It occurred to me that these are like INFOMERCIALS on the SHOPPING NETWORKS!! So why not run them on the shopping networks? Run them one after another for say 20-30 minutes at a time throughout the day AND NIGHT.
Shopping network time probably doesn't cost as much as traditional ad time on the major networks and would reach a big segment of people who probably don't get involved much in politics and it might, just might get them off the couch and out to vote; as in "Ron Paul cured my apathy".
ALSO, it occurred to me that some of the comments written by RP supporters on media websites after news segments or articles on RP, are extremely well written. I bet you could mine some great ad/slogan copy from those; maybe post them on the official campaign website so people checking our RP for the first time can read what other people think about RP and also, give direct response to some of the disinfo given out in the news/print reports; then it wouldn’t be the campaign refuting the disinfo, it would be individuals and I think would give more weight to the arguments against the disinfo and for RP.
Just some thoughts; trying to help.
--Anyway I emailed both these to Hdqtrs. day before yesterday, I also called Hdqtrs. twice and told a campaign worker the contents of the each email. Nina was the operator's name. I hope it helps.
I'm so glad people are
I'm so glad people are continuing to push this idea forward. Let's all take credit and really make it happen!
Regarding the shopping network placement... personally I avoid those channels. When we hire the right company to get airtime purchased and narrow our target audience, it will dictate which 'channels' would give us the best reach and be the most effective for our money.
Let's get this done.... time is very short, but the strength of the Ron Paul army can help to pull this off!
Can someone contact Trevor to see if he could be wrangled into organizing this? I will personally pledge more than I sent for the blimp to make this work!
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
It must have "been in the air"!
Let's see, how does the saying go? "It's amazing what can be accomplished if no one gets the credit," or something like that?
Of course it doesn't matter who gets the credit as long as Dr. Paul's message gets out and he gets the nomination and goes on to win in November.
I was surprised that we both came up with the same ideas at about the same time -- it must have "been in the air". Actually, I think it was seeing that lame new healthcare ad and the same thoughts occurred to both of us and probably a lot of other people as well.
Frankly, seeing your post encouraged me because it validated what I had been thinking -- I was glad that we agreed!
Pax? Pax. Onward and Upward to a Ron Paul Victory!
Agree 100%!
Agree 100%!
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
I will produce something if sent materials, etc.
I have been saying all along i will do something. Creating media pieces was my job for 37 years. If i had a way to hook into this, this IS what i want to contribute - my background, because i don't have unlimited money. Consider me a professional able to help, and contact me. Thanks.
Ron Paul 2008
Ron Paul 2008
Creating TV Ads / Infomercials
Your gracious offer is so great and so needed!
I suggest that you call campaign headquarters and volunteer your services in a more personal way than email. Your email may be overlooked in the flood of emails they must be receiving. You might actually get some action if you ask who you should speak to and then get their -- well you know how to do that sort of thing I'm sure!
The "Contact Us" link is on the Main Page but in small type so you have to search for it. If you go to the bottom of the Main Page, just above the blue border on the right hand side, it says "Contact Us"; telephone numbers, etc. are listed there.
When I called there wasn't a long wait (probably because few people think to search for the "Contact Us" link.) I spoke both times to a nice woman named Nina. Perhaps she could put you in contact with a decision maker.
Good luck ! GO RON PAUL !
A lot of the video has been shot already
I think if you just edited together with a narrator, snippets of the many Ron Paul videos out there, you could get what you wanted with minimal production costs.
You have the Nashua Telegraph Editorial Board 1 hr. interview
The 5-6 interviews with Stossel
The interviews by Newsweek
The interviews on Meds
The interviews with the money people
There are probably several hours of the exact type of interview we want out there.
All of this would have more credibility than an actor interviewing Paul.
You just need to stitch these together into 2-3 30 min informercials, and then get funding to show them.
The ronpaul2008.com website also should have these excellent raw videos linked on the home page of its website. Esp. the NH breakfast interview.
http://www.libertymaven.com/2007/12/11/ron-paul-breakfast-in...
Old Idea, but how about this?
I think other people are working on this one already.
But how about this idea? Why not make a half-hour program that gives the positions of ALL the candidates? Fair, even-handed, using their own words and deeds? Then, it could be aired by local stations as programming.
Who do you think would win?
IMissLiberty
You can reach voters in California, here: http://consequeries.com/California-voter-guide.php
I agree
This Country's problems, and Ron Paul's solutions, cannot be explained in ten-second sound bites.
Dr. Paul does very well in the informal interview setting. An infomercial combining some narration with some RP fireside chat and some interviewing would be outstanding. You could even have other experts chiming in - like that ex CIA guy to confirm what Dr. Paul says about blowback. And maybe the Comptroller of the Currency to talk about our pending National Bankruptcy.
We wouldn't need to have it run by the campaign. We set it up, invite Dr, Paul to do the interview and the fireside chats on certain issues, and we do the editing, the narration, and the distribution.
I will contribute to a project like this.
Peace
great idea
I love this idea. Exposure is the most important thing of any thing we could possibly do to help the campaign. Every time RP is on tv speaking his words alone can convert anyone. If we can make this happen, just give 1/2 of our man telling his side uninterrupted, I dont think theres any question that it would be the thing that would push the good Dr. to the forefront. Lets get this going!
I agree
gleidy
I believe infomercials would be the best way to go. Too many people don't have internet access.
gleidy
I agree
I think that infomercials would be entirely more beneficial than something like a blimp - sorry I think the blimp is cool and it will generate some buzz, but I'm not convinced that it will really help RP.
This is a job for the grassroots...
Meetup groups have already been doing this! individuals can buy relatively inexpensive, half hour local cable ads! we can edit them however we want! compiling the internet videos is a good idea too! It's being done! call your local tv communications center (charter etc.) and ask how much it would cost. This is grassroots baby!
I'll ditto this idea
Ron Paul is very convincing when given the chance to complete his thoughts......and with the donated professional support he keeps attracting, a well produced infomercial would be a real vote getter, especially with TV crowd. Let him describe his method of government without all those rude commentators butting in. This would be money wisely spent.
alan laney
If $ is the only Issue
If money is the only issue to not do this then that should be a not issue. If they don't have enough on hand a simple call for donations to fund an infomercial would get them what is needed. So the only problem is the campaigns desire to do it. And we know how weak that desire is!
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I can assure you that money
I can assure you that money is not the object. Inexperienced staffers are absolutely KILLING the campaign's momentum!
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
Sad To Say I Must Agree That "Official" Campaign Staff .....
Leave a lot to be desired. Almost all of the "good stuff" has come from outside supporters, except Ron Paul's wonderful ability and manner WHEN he gets on local media.
See a YouTube of him doing a house interview with NH TV WMUR. He has everyone one of them eating out of his hands in about 2 minutes.
Jim ODonnell
Jim ODonnell
This is a superior idea to any the Campaign has allowed...yet
This is a superior idea to any the Campaign has allowed...yet as we have seen from other posts, the Campaign seems to be in Stepford/traitor/plant/inadequate/not-getting-job-done mode.
I hope there is a way for people with ways and means to get such a project going. I think you have a thumbs up from all Ron Paul supporters, and such media presence would most certainly be successful at winning more voters to join the Revolution.
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This Has Already Been Proposed By A Professional In LA
This was proposed a while ago, and I think it is a GREAT idea, but from what I know Ron Paul's campaign staff has not followed up on the idea at this time.
Crap, I even contacted Liv "The Ron Paul Girl" who would be a natural for lead-in or filler parts of the informercials. Here is the link to get more information. Also I have the promoters email address [Liv also] and if anyone needs it contact me direct at [ nowido@gmail.com ].
http://www.nolanchart.com/article277.html
Jim ODonnell
Jim ODonnell
Hollywood Closeups looks
Hollywood Closeups looks like the perfect company to do this. Would it be possible to get this privately funded, yet feature an interview with Dr. Paul?
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
We already have a professional who volunteered to make it,
See this post, 6th from the top of the thread where Unaboomer volunteers to create the infomercial.
"On December 12th, 2007 Unaboomer says:
I have been saying all along i will do something. Creating media pieces was my job for 37 years. If i had a way to hook into this, this IS what i want to contribute - my background, because i don't have unlimited money. Consider me a professional able to help, and contact me. Thanks.
Ron Paul 2008"
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I have some questions about intellectual property rights and the Ron Paul supporters' video creations, royalties that may be due to recording artists for music used in these videos and source news footage from the national and local media outlets that were used in the production of the supporter's videos.
What do we need to do, if anything, on any of the above to put this Infomerical together and show it on local tv?
Also, if, for example, a musician waives the payment of royalties for our use of his original music in our Infomercial, would it be necessary to file that with the FEC as a political contribution from that musician?
Unaboomer, since you are the professional, do you have any input on legal issues like royalties or personal property rights which might impact this project?
It could be as easy as asking for written permission to use the video, music and source footage from the rightful owners and putting them in the credits at the end of the piece. We need to know quickly if this is going to do Dr. Paul any good.
Legal obstacles may have been the reason this idea died on the vine when it was first suggested to the campaign staff.
Liv the Ron Paul Girl.
She is so funny! We need to have her do the commercial for the next debate.
Liv Chick
Liv the Ron Paul Girl is the ticket. She is outstanding and should be used in the commercials. The end.