AUDIO : Alex Jones attacks Debra Medina says we can't believe anything she says if she gets into office : Feb 23 2010
Submitted by Neverquit on Tue, 02/23/2010 - 16:19A.J at the end of this audio states and I quote : "We can't believe anything she says if she gets in office if she'll flip flop like this" : end quote :
A.J takes her out of context by stating she said first she has questions about 9-11, OK, A.J is correct, she still does have questions and she has been clear about this. What she doesn't believe and this is where A.J twisted what she said and has said to suit his own agenda is, that there are great questions raised about the 9-11 commission report and that she does not believe 9-11 was performed by the Government. She has not flip flopped A.J is a liar and is absoultely trying to destroy her campaign.
UPDATED : Reading some of these comments really helped me to understand that people will blindly follow AJ no matter what he does or says EVEN IF HE LIES OR IS DEAD WRONG. FOR THE RECORD! Many here defending AJ claiming Debra flip flopped IS WRONG. She did not flip flop, she has been clear that SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT PERFORMED 9-11, she still believes that many good questions have been raised pertaining to the 9-11 commission report. STOP CONFUSING THE TWO DIFFERENT STATEMENTS, This is exactly how AJ tried to spin it to suit his agenda and you are spinning it to suit your agenda as well.
A.J also runs commercials promoting Jim Cramer, the clown that stated Bear Stearns was solid and he would continue to buy stock in them only 1 week prior to the collapse of Bear Stearns.
Rush Limbaugh also runs GCN commercials on his show. Anyone starting to see a pattern here?
Cointelpro?
AJ Needs to learn to keep his mouth shut
Alex Jones does more harm than good. You can't use shock therepy on people who are just now waking up. You will drive them off.
If Alex Jones does not know this then he is dumber than a shack of hammers.
If Alex Jones does know this then I have to question his motives and who he really represents.......
AJ ANGER is PRIMARILY based on name-calling
I heard Alex Jones'anger, but he was mainly angry that Medina had called people who question 911 "despicable". THAT is what angered him the most, imho. He also said this showed her inexperience in politics. Yes, he feels betrayed and interprets this as a "flip-flop". So, who cares. He was upset. I understand.
Medina could have answered in a way, like Ron Paul does, that would not be a put-down of those who question the events of 9/11.
My husband recently signed the ARCHITECTS & ENGINEERS petition that was recently submitted to the Senate & the House representatives. Richard Gage is very strict about checking an engineer or architect's background, btw.
I think how she handled herself with Glenn Beck was ok, but when she went onto the other show, she really blew it big time.
Now, regarding "evidence" that Bush was involved, NOONE to my knowledge that is pushing for a new independent investigation has DECISIVE PROOF of this. We may have strong suspicions that he was involved, but noone has the proof....yet.
That is why we need an "independent" investigation. There is plenty of evidence that all 3 towers were destroyed by demolition, and the most suscept of all was Building 7, yet what has been astonishing is how the MEDIA PIGS and shills for the warmongering efforts have castigated and demeaned literally ANYONE who dares to even question this day, whether it be a guest or a caller.
How dare they do that to we Americans! How dare they! Notice that people like GLENN BECK cannot ever engage in questioning people who call. He just resorts to NAME-CALLING and SNIDE REMARKS....AFTER a caller hangs up. He is the one who is "despicable", not us.
He suggests we shouldn't "question" the government. THAT is all he does when he "questions" the Health Care Bills, or anything else! So, what's wrong in asking questions, Beck. Again, he is the one who is "despicable", not us.
Back to Medina, she owes us an apology. Last I heard neither Glenn Beck nor the jerk who did the follow-up radio interview have esteemed degrees as architects or engineers, as my husband does!! I tried calling her office, but all I got was a busy.
Neverquit...
...your yelling about COINTELPRO this and that is extremely irritating, especially because I feel like you are repelling newcomers with these antics. You already posted the video, but then you try to force your interpretation of it into everyone who doesn't agree. It's pretty simple, Medina bit the hand that feeds (at least half), the 911 truthers. She didn't have to do what she did, but she played their game and now their divisive tactics begin to work, and to make matters worse, you blame it on the wrong entity. Do you hear people shouting that you are COINTELPRO every time you misinform even though I'm sure your intentions are good?? Please rethink your stance on this. I contend that you are hurting the movement at large with these things. The same day this happened AJ's crew successfully infiltrated the rigged press conference with Timothy Geithner and the IRS puppet... New commercials about Ted's gold here and there is NOT hard evidence. Unless you got something IRREFUTABLE that AJ is a mole, then you should post it. Until then, you sound ... unreliable, and you make the rest of us look paranoid.
- Javi
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Furious-Primates/213314918711...
Furious Primate RE : Please rethink your stance
"Please rethink your stance on this. I contend that you are hurting the movement at large with these things. The same day this happened AJ's crew successfully infiltrated the rigged press conference with Timothy Geithner and the IRS puppet... New commercials about Ted's gold here and there is NOT hard evidence. Unless you got something IRREFUTABLE that AJ is a mole, then you should post it. Until then, you sound ... unreliable, and you make the rest of us look paranoid."
Fair enough, please provide me hard IRREFUTABLE evidence that the Bush adminstration and the Federal Government was the mastermind behind 9-11 and also carried it out. I also have not said I have fact that AJ is cointelpro but his actions lately are suspicious.
Why does my opinion make us look paranoid?
AJ's intentions are increasingly suspicious
You wrote, "Do you hear people shouting that you are COINTELPRO every time you misinform even though I'm sure your intentions are good??"
I don't know enough about AJ to conclude he is COINTELPRO, but he has done enough harm for me to question his intentions. I don't mind Neverquit questioning AJ, because AJ truly does questionable things.
What's strange to me here is that Medina has also done something questionable, but Neverquit seems opposed to a free discussion of that particular mistake. Just because some people have blown the significance of her mistake out of proportion doesn't mean she didn't MAKE the mistake to begin with.
Question
I've seen it stated a many times on here that Medina has said "Truthers" are "despicable". Can someone tell me EXACTLY what she meant in making this statement? What allegedly are "Truthers" "despicable" for?
It is despicable-says a Truther
I'm a truther and it is despicable that I am suspicious of my own government. But I'm sorry, murder has been committed and someone needs to hang. Every law officer in America is despicable when they 'clear the family first' of a child's murder. But it has to be done. A despicable job for sure. But it has to be done. It gets the ire of everyone while it happens. If the original report had been conclusive, then this would not happen, but it was not. It is our duty to find the truth and it will take us in despicable directions until it is done.
So while everyone is getting in a roar over it, their energy is misplaced. Unravel the mystery behind 911 instead of wasting this energy on one person who has basically nothing to do with it. She isn't required to know where she stands on 911. I don't know myself where I stand. I need it to be investigated.
Debra could have handled this smoother with more thought, but she had not given it that thought because it isn't pertinent to her immediate life. She isn't going to solve the issue by putting her energy into it. It is a bigger issue than she has faced. It is out of her hands.
Medina for Governor of Texas.
I believe she is better then Perry or Kay...
and if I were in TX I'd surely vote for her...But...not without some serious reservations and concerns. she is fearful of "flying" in her politic...and is still under the opinion that the "people of TX" are not ready for the FULL story. Shame...as just the oposite is true...in fact she could easily loose what support she now enjoys with the patriot movement if she is preceived to be a person subject to "crumbling" under pressure ( and face it...being gov. of TX is going to be a VERY high pressure job ).
The days of "middle of the road" politics is OVER !!! Patriots and now the "people" in general want to know EXACTLY where the people they are voting for stand on the issues that "FRAME OUR WORLD".
* 911 is precisly that...an event that shaped our world and "we demand a ORIENTED & DEDICATED view about it" !
I pray that she understands that her political future will depend on her stand on the TRUTH and it's place in her campaign. If she tries to "ride the safe center" she'll only attract those people...and everyday now, folks are leaving that "none thinking" status quo stuper and "TAKING SIDES".
I like her style...she could be OPEN and still be respected and "loved" by all Texans and patriots too.
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i Don't Care What Any Talking Head Says...
if she can lead the move to do away with property taxes giving the owners back their property without threat of illegal seizures & lead in doing away with so called laws that "INFRINGE" on the people's 2nd Amendment rights...THAT IS ALL I NEED TO VOTE FOR MEDINA!!! what are the other 2 doing to "UPHOLD" your rights granted by our Creator???????????????????? WHO CARES WHAT BECK AND JONES HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT????? I DON'T!!!!!
i haven't listened to Jones for years, but he'd should have been the 1st to understand the divide and conquer technique being used on Medina supporters over this that he just fell for. so who is he working for???
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2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Mark Davis is obviously a
Mark Davis is obviously a despicable NWO shill - she should have slapped him upside the head.
Debbie
She should not have done his interview outside his studio.
She should do no interview hurriedly. But that is far easier said than done.
Huh?
She did not flip flop, she has been clear that SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT PERFORMED 9-11, she still believes that many good questions have been raised pertaining to the 9-11 commission report.
Yes, she did flip-flop. She flip-flopped about the right of people to question the government's version of what happened on 9-11 without being stigmatized as paranoid, cultist truthers. One day, she thinks it's okay to have questions. The next day, it's not okay.
She caved to pressure, big time.
That's not to "throw her under the bus," but I'm just calling a spade a spade.
At what point during this Mark Davis interview
did Debra Medina say unequivocally that people DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUESTION THEIR GOVERNMENT ? She never said it and would not say that. DEBRA MEDINA DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A TRUTHER IS ? It's just stupid high school bullshit done by the media to play on your ridiculous insecurities !! GROW UP !!!!
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
Speaking of growing up....
Maybe you should use less capital letters and exclamation points?
I never said that Debra Medina stated "unequivocally that people DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUESTION THEIR GOVERNMENT." That is not what I said. Focus. Read what people say before going on a rant.
Show me where she flip
Show me where she flip flopped about the right of the people to question Government.
This is typical AJ straw man misinformation. Please I ask again show me where she said such a thing as you claim.
I don't CARE about AJ "straw man" misinformation
I don't even know what everyone is talking about because I wasn't on the internet yesterday until very late, and I don't know what AJ said. I don't LISTEN to him, as I wrote below.
My thoughts are my own. You wrote: Show me where she flip flopped about the right of the people to question Government.
I never claimed that she said people don't have the right to question the government. I was talking about the right of people to question the government without being stigmatized. Apparently she agrees that truthers should be stigmatized as paranoid cultists. I listened to the Mark Davis interview and it's clear from that.
I understand now, thanks for
I understand now, thanks for clearing that up.
If you listen closely she says I agree when he mentions the fact that George Bush was involved in the 9-11 attacks the stigma came while she was talking. She may not have even heard him make that comment, then he says you are on record agreeing with that statement and she says yes.
I don't see where she flip flopped at all and I also don't have all the facts to say what she does or doesn't think, although, AJ was dead wrong to do what he did yesterday.
Can you revise this so it makes sense?
If you listen closely she says I agree when he mentions the fact that George Bush was involved in the 9-11 attacks the stigma came while she was talking.
I don't know what that means, but I think you are making excuses for Medina, period. She obviously could have handled Mark Davis more diplomatically, without giving offense. She failed to do that. I'm not saying she should lose the election because of that failure, I'm only saying, she failed.
I'm not interested in anything Alex Jones did or said, I'm not taking his side or subscribing to any of his opinions whatsoever. I haven't even heard this controversial rant or interview or whatever it is he did. I haven't clicked on your link- someone said you have to listen to the whole, long thing from yesterday to get the full meaning, and I don't have time for it. You keep repeating that AJ was wrong...I never said he is right! If my statements happen to sound like his, that's coincidence.
Give the woman a break
She is under enormous pressure, 15 hours a day and not a pro at handling questioning.
She in no way believes 911s are despicable.
Go watch her speaches. It is obvious she is the real deal.
Now for Alex...
what does this video say about him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgxEDC3k4tI
I'm not an Alex Jones listener anymore.
I haven't trusted him for a while.
I still hope Medina wins, but I did take offense when she agreed with Mark Davis's attacks on truthers. And I'm not as enthusiastic about her as I was.
I was surprised that she did that.
And I have the feeling that if further conversation went on, she would clarify that. HE is the one who SAID it, she agreed. There is a little difference there and you never know what is in someone's head. What exactly they are thinking. When cops go after a family first when a child is killed, the family thinks it is despicable and it is, but it has to be done.
I'm still voting Debra for sure, for sure.
Give the woman a break
She is under enormous pressure, 15 hours a day and not a pro at handling questioning.
She in no way believes 911s are despicable.
Go watch her speaches. It is obvious she is the real deal.
Now for Alex...
what does this video say about him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgxEDC3k4tI
What else are you gonna say
What else are you gonna say when some one agrees that you are despicable? You are gonna say no I am not, I am offended, now please apologize to me if you want my respect.
That is all its about RESPECT. I am not sure about the rest of America but Respect is damn important in Texas.
It has been stated before... the critical governorship race!
It has been already predicted that the race for Texas FAR FAR exceeds the whole senate race as a threat to the CFR... you can see all the dis-information specialists suddenly coming out of the woodwork in a panic!... and I do mean A Jones, who has been hyping false flags for years for the CFR!! He is a precision dis-information specialist in the technique of demoralization, which is why you can find all kinds of info, some true, much false which few remember, and much in between, but you find zero solutions on a Paulian type basis. Some who escaped communist Vietnam, and who heard some of his diatribe, thought immediately he was a communist agitator, using half truths to undermine moral resolution!
Think about it.
Is this his, and Becks, and Palins, Waterloo, the imminent success of Medina?
JSBach's incisive comment is music to these ears...
Kudos, you would make your namesake proud with the way in which your words highlight the dissonance in Alex Jones' massive barrage of information, some appreciated, some punctuated with inflammatory rhetoric that borders on demagoguery.
You are right. AJ prides himself in being the exposer of lies and in scooping other news sources. He raises emotions to a frenzy peak, and what kind of "Paulian solutions" does he offer? I cannot remember any. What I do remember is "Resist the New World Order" or some variant on this theme.
Debra Medina, being the citizen reformer and patriot, and not a honed politician who can recognize when she is being played, will, nonetheless, continue to advance and scare the hell out of those who are attacking her because she is now the prime threat in the nation to the control sought by globalist, warmongering interests. She will advance because the powers that be cannot play all of those of us who retain their capacities to think critically and humanely and who refuse to mouth platitudes of Pied Pipers, such as AJ's ranting about "flip-flopping" and not being able to trust anything she says in office, which set off a barrage of drive-by AJ zombie attacks on Debra's facebook page. Having a bit of difficulty with the hurt feelings, Alex?
Alex strikes me as being prone to attacks of egotistical mania that border on demagoguery, if, in fact, they have not already crossed the line.
Medina will do just fine.
This lady has the real goods, and that's what it takes.
Media pundits say all kinds of things all the time.
What matters is that Debra Medina is the real thing.
That's what will show in the end.
She Does Not Have the Goods
Sad to say, from the Glenn Beck debacle to this it is clear that Debra Medina does not have what it takes to be a leader and that is the courage of her convictions and the boldness to resist these media manipulators. She was played like a flute. I'd still vote for her but not with much enthusiasm and definitely would not support her campaign other than casting a vote.
The harder they hit Medina, the harder we work!
Double down, it is MEDINA TIME!
AJ has a lot of great information and some not so great information. He falls victim to hyperbole, and has a couple of times made great dangerous blunders.
During the 2000 panic he was live on the radio for hours saying that the Russians were attacking the USA, that nuclear power plants were shutting down due to the 2000 glitch... that UN troops were becoming active in America, etc.
Recently he lied to his readers by hyping a false interview with Obama about 911 as true and asking all his followers to forward it to their email lists. Obviously those who sent it did great damage to their reputation and to 911 truth.
I don't know if AJ is misguided or controlled opposition, but I will always be very careful about double checking what he reports.
"it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment." ~ Annica2
What did she say AFTER?
AJ cut it off after she said "agreed". What if she said something like, "agree, but it never hurts to question the story???"
Is the entire interview posted & i just can't locate it??
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I said it as one of the first
I said it as one of the first posts...listen to the whole hour or so segment or else you are doing yourself a disservice. Know the whole story not just the 10 minute youtube version. Then figure out what you think about it all.