9/11 Truthers Are Tools of the Regime

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Please don't get me wrong. Who doesn't have questions about 9/11 that remain unanswered? I don't know anyone.

But you ardent Truthers are being used by the Perry machine if you turn your backs on Debra. Let me explain.

First the Perry machine had Glenn Beck sabotage the Medina campaign by putting words in her mouth, exaggerating what she said about 9/11. After a few days of his clowning he managed to persuade a large number of her supporters to drop their support.

Then, and I don't yet understand the details, I believe the Perry machine, perhaps through infiltrators in the Medina campaign, arranged for AJ and as I understand it other local Texas talkers to demonize her for not respecting the 9/11 truth movement enough. Maybe they didn't need to intervene. Maybe the 9/11 truth people just couldn't resist shooting themselves in the foot.

First they got her to issue a retraction and then condemned her for the retraction. Boom, another group of supporters lost.

Alex Jones knows how this game is played. The fact that he played it made him look to me that like part of the machine, and willing to be used.

Getting elected in Texas or anywhere else requires getting a coalition of at least 51% of the votes. Debra's voters included a lot of just generally disaffected Texas good old boys and more strongly anti-government types, including "truthers."

First they knocked off the first group, including many veterans and others who still believe in their government. Next they knocked off the serious doubters of government.

Now are both of those groups going to insure the election of their enemy? They will if they either

1. Stay home
2. Vote for some third party protest candidate or
3. Vote for the machine candidate.

What is it that makes you voters stampede like a bunch of spooked sheep and destroy our best hope in a lifetime?

Perry and company are laughing at them, all the way back to his $10,000 a month mansion.

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9/11 Truthers are true patriots.

Whether dismissed, ridiculed, insulted or assaulted. We are steadfast in our mission for justice. We care about those who died and we care about those who will die at the hands of the same people who orchestrated 9/11. It may be you next time... it may be me.

The fact that a candidate can win or loose a race based on whether or not they are open to investigating 9/11 tells how much this movement has grown. We are only a threat to those who are behind 9/11 so it's no wonder the Establishment is seeking to ostracize those of us who dare question the political gods. Wake up brother... we are not the tools.. we are the wrench in the gears.

I hold no ill will towards Medina but it takes courage to be a person of conscience and stand up with what you truly belief to be true.

It's 2010 and 9/11 Truth is stronger than ever.

You will never have freedom if you don't have truth and JUSTICE.

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"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009

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i take offense at this headline

I am a 911 Truther and in no way am I a
supporter of the regime.

I personally have always had second thoughts about Alex Jones and his parade of doing things I feel
that are very much to the detriment of the 911
Hunt for Truth movement.

Whether you don't want to believe or keep
your head in the sand 911 was an inside job
and definitely needs to be exposed.

Also I financially supported Debra Medina for
Governor but I also persuaded 2 of my cousins
in Dallas to vote for her.

Rant and rave and try to sound like Trash Flimbaugh
and Alex Jones is all talk and no action, plain
and simple.

"Freedom is a right that can never be won in war,only by each individual "

SO as per previous comment

Why did 911 truthers shoot themselves in the foot and put down Madina ?

because jones is an idiot

and way too close to the fire not to be letting off any heat.

Just be tollerant

I am not a 9/11 'truther' and I think what many of them say is ridiculous, but no more ridiculous than people thinking we need a Federal Reserve system or the Presidents war time power is absolute.

The fact that jet fuel is kerosene is not relevant.
I never heard anyone argue the fires brought the towers down. I also never heard it argued that the impact brought the buildings down. What is argued is that the two worked together to bring the building down.

thermal expansion. geeh, wonder why I never thought of that?

silly me. and what about the 80 floors below that were unaffected by either one?
never mind friend. this is NOT a cause I persue.
what I do is HVAC/R. if you know what they are, and I can help you,[professionaly or personally] I will.

Knowledge is power, action is love.

not everyone has done HVAC work in high rises.

I have. in fact this was where I recieved my training. this put me in a unique postion to understand what happened. am I a "truther" yes. do I talk about it much? NO!
and there are VERY good reasons why. are you aware "jet fuel" is plain ole kerosene? no.
do you know what a fire damper is? or how they work?
there are VERY good and sound reasons to question the whole "chinese fire drill" that day.
but I can tell you this. fire did NOT bring those buildings down. niether did the mechanical damage they suffered. they are made of what we called "red" steel.
that stuff is springy and hard to mount stuff too.
anyhow, sorry I bumped this post I guess.....

Knowledge is power, action is love.

But now that the Primary is over...

Will you support/vote for:

1. Republican-Machine Candidate Perry
2. Democrat-Machine Candidate White

or

3. Libertarian Kathie Glass

http://kathie4guv.com/

Now, when the ACTUAL election is coming up, is time to show/prove where you really stand.

I'm voting Green (Gov. and Lt.), Libertarian (Sec. of State) and Peace and Freedom (Congress) this November in California. How's your Texas vote going to look?

Why did you think it

Why did you think it necessary to dredge up this thread (dated: 02/24/2010) just to post that?

HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS!

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

Not to mention the fact that.....

...there are truthers out there who are
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointelpro

It was designed to dishearten supporters.

To take the wind out of their sails. To make them argue with each other about a fringe and irrelevant issue. Much ado about nothing. Gorilla Dust!

All the while Perry supporters were on the phone (or email or facebook or...) making a database of Perry voters. Voters who will be given any and all assistance they need to get to the polls and pull the lever for Perry.

The database is online so that Perry supporters can access the numbers from their cell phone. Got a minute make a call.

The database was probably build on his previous wins. Incumbents win, that's what they do.

They don't have to hope people show up to vote for Perry. They already know who they are and how to reach them.

It's how Brown beat Coakley.

What are you hoping for?

Free includes debt-free!

Yawn...

So I guess the family members of those who died in Vietnam (Gulf of Tonkin), the Gulf War (Biological Weapons with MADE IN THE USA stamped on them), and all of the rest of the state sponsored "interventions" based on outright lies are "tools of the regime" too, eh?

Great! So if you participate you are a "tool", if you condemn these actions you are a "tool." Then what's the big deal?

If we are damned if we do, and damned if we don't, I err on the side of what is true, vs. what is demonstrably FALSE every time!

If your family member died due to willful negligence by a private organization, let alone a government one... Would YOU remain silent? Really....

I can't, and I can't tell another person who suffered such a tragedy to do so either. But that is just me, maybe I'm "weak..." Or just not cut out for the essential LYING to participate in the political process or exercise my constitutional right to free speech.

(BTW I support Medina and think all of this drama is a distraction only if you bother to acknowledge it... If she focuses on Texas, she will win and she knows it)

She was a deer caught in the headlights and said "I agree"

to words put into her mouth, to make the headlights go away. She's not the best, but she'll do. I am a 911 truther and I am not offended, in my gut, so that's what I go by. This is the Big Boy's game. Next stop FEMA and NWO.

She touched the rail that no one else has, and that's a good start. No one should have to do everything. That will be up to other candidates, better ones.

So far the net effect of her blunders has to bring more attention to 911, Internet on fire, Washington Times article this week even.

We should reward her for having touched the rail. She walked point and got blown up. We should treat her like wounded, and bring her home. To victory. We can't do this without people willing to step forward as candidates. If Paulers get a reputation for hanging behind their candidates through thick and thin, and hashing out what went wrong and what we are mad at later, even it we say, no more support for you, we'll have more candidates.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

It isn't about that at all.

What it is really about is that now over half of the Hispanic vote is now polling... conservative.

~blink~

TBH, this isn't really even about Texas.

It's about Kalifornia later.

Although Texas is a bigass skirmish that may later win the war...

:)

~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~

The Way to Win Elections TIP #462...

In mid-campaign announce, "All of my supporters are crazy violence-prone idiots who hate America!"

:D

I should write a book...

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"Wobbles but doesn't fall down" - weebles

Tempest in a teapot

None of this is going to affect voting in Texas.
The differences in candidates is very clear.

Nobody is going to be waffling between whether to vote for Medina or Perry.

A person might have some disappointment with these latest statements, but if that's enough to make you pull the lever for Perry, you have confused priorities.

agree

Who get out the vote will win.

Free includes debt-free!

agree 100%

BigT

In general...

it's not a good idea to label a sizable portion of your support base "despicable cultists" mid-campaign. Generally creates ill-feelings.

*shrugs*

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"Wobbles but doesn't fall down" - weebles

Supporter base

Despicable cultists

See the problem?

Probably not.

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"Wobbles but doesn't fall down" - weebles

Debra Medina Link -

Agreed.(mostly)

This is The Daily Paul, NOT a 9-11 Truther support site.

Her link is still at the top of our page. NO POLITICAL CANDIDATE is 100% Right. Could she have answered better? Yes. Could she have been more precise? Yes.

So who do you support NOW if it's not Medina?

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Could she have....

Could she have said, "Look, I don't believe the govt did 9/11, but I know many who have questions about it and they are good-hearted, normal people who love America. If that upsets you too the point we can't move on to other issues then this interview is over"? YES.

She could have done that and impressed the people of Texas and America with her moxy, toughness and conviction and this would be a dead issue.

Instead, she flip-flopped all over the place and labeled a large portion of her support base "despicable america-hating cultists"...

*shrugs*

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"Wobbles but doesn't fall down" - weebles

Coulda-shoulda-woulda -

You said it - YES (as I posted). She coulda-shoulda done it differently & probably woulda if she could.

She made that mistake. She most likely regrets it more than ANYTHING - (especially with all the sniveling going on now), but can't go back in time to re-do it. She probably is making it a "dead issue" now by not bringing it up or addressing it again.

So now what? Who do you support now???

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Well...

I am a hardcore truther.. and I would still vote for Medina if I lived in Texas.

Having said that, I am still confused over where she stands. Was she pandering? Is she a power-seeking panderer at heart? Did she just make a rookie mistake? Is she in over her head?

I'm still 85% confident she has good intentions and her heart is in the right place. It was 100% before the "despicable" incident. Not because I'm offended or my feelings are hurt. But because I'm not sure she's up for the game. And I'm not 100% sure of her heart anymore.

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"Wobbles but doesn't fall down" - weebles

Can't hold candidates to 9/11

It's way too much to hold Liberty candidates to questioning 9/11 (Ventura is simply the MAN and would most likely stand up for his beliefs even when/if he runs for President). Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Adam Kokesh and Debra Medino all remained to have my support even when they distanced themselves from "Truthers", and Alex Jones never "played the game" against Medina, don't know where this information came from saying he trashed her, I was listening almost everyday during this drama and he did nothing but support her.

BUMP

BUMP

Edit

"Update" was just an edit of a couple of typos and a few words to clarify.

It still amazes me how easy it is to get people all excited and manipulate them into acting against their own best interest.