A message to 911 Truth Seekers
Anybody with an ounce of intelligence must realize that if you profess to be a "911 truther", and you also happen to be a politician, then your career is over.
That is common sense, open your eyes and ears. The corrupt powers that be, through the state run media, have cemented that idea into the minds of the American people.
That is why I know why Medina said what she said.
But it was intellectually dishonest for Glenn Beck to even ask her that question. Does he ask everyone that question?
Glenn Beck is controlled opposition.
And in my opinion, Alex Jones, either over-reacted, or is himself controlled opposition. I tend to believe that he over-reacted, because he is so absorbed into what he is doing, that he can't take a step back and percieve the world as the masses percieve the world.
As for me, I have studied 911, since 911.
And I can only tell you 3 things with certainty.
1) The govt. knew it was going to happen.
2) The govt. let it happen.
3) Many people knew the exact time and date that it would happen.
These three things in themselves should warrant another investigation.
I believe that Dr. Paul knows that someting ain't quite right regarding 911, but he is too smart to show his hand.
Know when to pick your battles, and which battles to pick, is good advice.
Peace.
P.S. - Medina is of founding father status.
The vast majority of the
The vast majority of the people around us are not ready to be unplugged from the matrix. In fact, they are so inured, so dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. If you know the truth of 9-11, then good. But don't expect every coppertop around you to see the truth as clearly as you do. If we are to win this revolution, we will have to win it by stealth. Do not expect candidates to profess any opinion about 9-11. It is not a requirement for the reassertion of liberty.
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
But Things Can Change!
At one point it would have been political suicide to say Richard Nixon was a crook, but now it's an accepted fact.
Never forget, things can change and I predict one of these days the majority will be singing totally different tune.
Then we'll let the backtracking begin!
Ralph
Things may change but if we never try then why are we here? No one can predict the future,all we can do is have positive hope and perseverance.I said this earlier today,It's like fishing,if you don't cast a line in you will never catch a thing let alone the big one.And it is always important to match the plug you are using with the season.
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I agree
Just like a lot of things, they got away with killing Kennedy. What they didn't count on this time were the internet and someone like Richard Gage and Ron Paul who have both smarts, principles, balls and courage.
See they thought they had plenty of time to control the world but when the emerging economies began to grow quicker than they could control those banking systems, they decided to chance it and accelerate the process with a high stakes game called "911".
Say what you want, deny what you want but the 911 truth movement is many times larger than it was two years ago, and it's not going away!
Please don't forget
That it is very important to use the correct color plug for the season at hand,If not then you may as well turn around pack up and go back home, you are not going to catch a thing.But never throw away a good plug it will soon be the season that it is made for.
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I did not write this post,
to discredit the 911 truthers, because, quite frankly, I am one.
There is more than one way for the truth to come out.
If you knew that certain tactics were doomed to failure, and other tactics had a better chance of exposing the truth, which tactic would you choose.
We must infiltrate the establishment, and at the proper time, lay claim to the truth.
Remember, it took 50 years for historians to realize that Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen, with a three day notice, I might add.
Can we wait another few years to expose 911, when we have more support in government?
Obviously, no one has the answer, only opinions.
But every time I listen to Medina, my heart races. She is great public speaker, plain spoken words of truth.
She could be one of the greatest allies to the Revolution ever.
Many people were hurt by Medina's comments, but I implore those who were hurt, to try and understand.
I hope I haven't offended any patriots, and I believe that the 911 truthers are some of the greatest patriots on the DailyPaul.
Peace.
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Maybe we are despicable
Maybe Medina is right,We did not allow her to discover and think about the 911 theory on her own.
We forced an ideal on to her already challenging campaign with her having no choice in the matter,Whats free about this?I for one, would have been upset about this myself,no matter what the subject matter was.
Debra Medina,I am not to big to apologize for putting words in your mouth and expecting you to support them.
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Sadly SirFelix, what you say is true.
Choose your battles.
Then if you survive (politically), you'll be around to fight another day.
This is the path followed by Dr. Paul I believe.
And we certainly need this great warrior in there fighting for us.
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
You seek political gain, I want truth exposed
It seems we are now officially "enemies." How friggin' sad is that?
Medina could have said 100 things short of what she did, she could have reached out and said something conciliatory to the RESCUE WORKERS she called despicable.
I stand for TRUTH. Because your politicians is now the liar, you are OK with it. You are now part of the problem in my world, where TRUTH LIBERATES. I don't think there is a world where liberty springs from lies. Maybe you are right, but I will stand here and defend TRUTH all alone if I must.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
ya we seek political gain in THIS movement
we don't have all day and all night at this thing, you want to go philosophical, go ahead. we seek PRACTICAL reverse-incremental-ism. medina didn't lie, a trivial and downright meaningless issue like 9 fucking 11 never crossed her mind, she doesn't care, neither do many of us here compared to other issues. it had no political impact one way or another, she needn't lie, you're taking yourself too seriously. yes we're enemies if you are willing to sabotage our political efforts over your personal priority. good, bye. btw ron paul and his liberty candidates have exposed more "truth" than you possibly could in 10 times your lifetime, we're trying to put his SOLUTIONS into policies, and in that process, we don't need kooks like you. see you on the other side of the sand.
here's also what i said to another shallow thinker, and the same response applies to you:
you need a lot more hard evidence and ACTUAL VOTING RECORDS on things OF ACTUAL IMPORT not something as trivial as this to establish beyond the shadow of a doubt to CHALLENGE a person's integrity.. don't throw that word around like you're some teen. there's also a DEGREE to integrity as every person has their threshold of perseverance.. it's just RETARDED on the premise that a long time constitutional candidate who ACTUALLY STUDIES AND READS THE CONSTITUTION AND THE WORDS OF FOUNDING FATHERS can have integrity of any lesser caliber compared against anybody outside the liberty movement.. there is no effing competition.. you want to whine? find her a competitor or grow up.
It is clear that espousing to be a "truther"
will get nothing done about it. The people in power don't care and won't do anything about it.
No sense in beating your head against that wall and sabotaging viable candidates in the process.
Better to focus on electing good candidates. Eventually enough will be elected that may open this topic for investigation.
But for now drop the public "truther" stuff. It is counter productive to getting to the truth. Just focus on good candidates getting elected.
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y'all read this and use your head please.
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ONE VERY SIMPLE, EASY SOLUTION
just ask yourself this question. when another circumstance like this occurs, not even over a candidate like medina who practically has no knowledge of any 911. instead we have a candidate who knowingly and most offensively insults 911 truthers with unsavory words, you know, just picture in your mind the worst way possible that would PISS YOU OFF. but let's say he is a liberty candidate and it is proven he is right on every single liberty issue, but he cares not about 911. now your priorities are at odds. will you support a liberty candidate if he is separating himself from the truther movement and he wishes his supporters to place other priorities over 911, and he even openly denounces 911 theories. if you won't support a liberty candidate for this, your priorities are at odds. so if your answer is NO, the most reasonable thing for you is to leave the liberty movement right now, organize your own 911 political campaign, and start a daily911 website to organize your grassroots. 911 and the liberty POLITICAL movement WAS and ALWAYS WILL BE mutually exclusive. make a decision and stop dragging liberty minded individuals down the sewers with your sabotage. a publicly known truther SHOULDN'T EVEN TRY TO HELP a candidate. again, if your priority is incremental recovery of liberty first, drop all 911 issue and disengage yourself from public 911 movements. otherwise start your own movement.
I wouldn't call them
"mutually exclusive".
By any means.
It is more like a Venn Diagram.
When you make such basic errors, it hurts your credibility.
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they are mutually exclusive
i'm not talking about closet beliefs, but when publicly known truther openly gets anywhere near someone's campaign. ron paul lost a lot of useful allies like tucker carlson and others during his campaign because of the 911 conspiracists. i'm not talking about ron paul clones, but his potential allies. most of his college supporters like me aren't kooks. most 911 truthers only limit themselves to loud typing on the internet, he will do fine with a logic-intact grassroots base. 911 and politics are publicly mutually exclusive. think harder.
Sounds logical to me...
Thanks for making sense Sir Felix.
Cheers!
You are dead on Sir Felix
that is why I always try to make it a habit of saying, strap your boots on, it is gonna get a little muddy. This is politics, and its not always gonna be pretty, in my opinion, let's play the game how these corrupt bastards like to play it. I am with you Sir Felix. I think 9/11 is a problem, I think Debra Medina is a solution. We need to focus on solutions to win our freedom back.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
Good post SirFelix
logic is a quality lacking in many a libertarian mind.
And just basic common sense tells me you catch more flies with honey, than vinegar.
And to a big chunk of the voting population 9-11 is vinegar.
So we can piss vinager and go no where or spread a little honey and catch some flies.
I vote we catch some flies.
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MEDINA was guilty of stupidity, that's all
She was naive, and she SHOULD HAVE thought about what she would say regarding the sticky wicket 9/11 topic, regardless if she believed an investigation should occur or not.
THAT's what she was guilty of, imho.
Her words offended Americans who are trying so hard to fight back in a world of controlled shills and controlled Media. It hurt.
She SHOULD HAVE SAID she was not going to talk about a topic that has nothing to do with her election....no matter what they said....she should have been a 'BROKEN RECORD'.
LOL!
Look at your post record, O seeded account.
Anyone want to bet that this account is going to be REALLY quiet again after the Texas primary?
Y'all have to get better at this.
Take the time to make an account and USE it occasionally.. post other opinions besides the one you're getting paid to railroad.
Work on your timing... become an active poster both BEFORE and AFTER to post the crap that you are told to... it makes it a little more believable.
Above all, make your posts believable, not scripted.
for an example of how NOT to do it, merely use your current post as an example.
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"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
MEDINA was guilty of stupidity, that's all
She was naive, and she SHOULD HAVE thought about what she would say regarding the sticky wicket 9/11 topic, regardless if she believed an investigation should occur or not.
THAT's what she was guilty of, imho.
Her words offended Americans who are trying so hard to fight back in a world of controlled shills and controlled Media. It hurt.
She SHOULD HAVE SAID she was not going to talk about a topic that has nothing to do with her election....no matter what they said....she should have been a 'BROKEN RECORD'.
Texas Hold'em ~Debra is the Ace in the Hole!
I'm positive Debra is quite familiar with Texas Hold'Em Poker! ;-)
You got to know when to hold em', know when to fold em'!
You gotta know when to walk away and when to run!
You never count your money while your sittin at the table!
There'll be time enough for countin' ..when the game is done!
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P.S. I agree Sir Felix
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Some candidates have run openly on 911
Peter Thottam for CA state assembly right now, and Dr. Bob Bowman, Reform Party presidential candidate in 2008. For every denier vote a truth movement candidate loses, he/she picks up a patriot somewhere. It's always like that, how does the saying go? "...then they join you, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." (Mark Twain?)
The first charge up the hill is never the one that makes it. Never let them think it is safely buried. It has now broken through to the Washington Times, major print media. 911 truth is a juggernaut which moves slowly but cannot be stopped.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/22/inside-the-b...
A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
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I would ask THX1138 and BIGT,
one simple question.
How does the ruling elite steal our liberties?
The answer in incrementalism, one baby step at a time.
And so, we can not expect to regain our Liberty overnight, it takes baby steps.
Baby steps in the proper direction.
Would you not forgive Medina, for losing the battle, but to survive and possibly win the war?
I have the utmost faith in Debra.
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I support Debra Medina.
The "truther issue" has nothing to do with this election.
She's running for Governor of Texas.
There's nothing to "forgive" Medina for.
I have no problem with her.
But apparently you have a "problem" with truthers.
You make alot of assumptions about "truthers" and how others view them, which aren't necessarily valid.
And you also make assumptions(apparently) that you think all truthers now hate Medina, just because of this fallout from Beck.
I beg to differ,
During the last week, the DailyPaul has been inundated with posts about Debra, Glenn Beck, and Alex Jones, all about the 911 issue.
I don't have a problem with "truthers", because "I is one".
I do have a problem with conjecture, and speculation.
I stand by what I have written, for it is what I have witnessed personally.
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Once again, it's not about 9/11
It's about:
-Debra Medina pandering
-Debra Medina being disrespectful to her supporters
-Debra Medina giving perfect ammunition for the likes of Beck etc.
-Debra Medina showing she is bendable & can be led around like a dog by nobody radio hosts
-Debra Medina changing her story
-Debra Medina giving credence to the "war on terror"
-Debra Medina further stigmatizing any discussion whatsoever on 9/11
-Debra Medina dancing to their tune
I'm an ae911truth.org member and have
been at this for a while. Through NYCAN months ago. Making calls to my state rep, state senator, Congressman, Senators....It has occurred to me that having the ear of the top person in state government is not a bad thing. I liken getting that job to a person working undercover, joining the mob to nail the Don.
We know the primaries were rigged against Ron Paul in 2008. The elections were rigged in 2000 and 2004. IT IS CORRUPT. Having a body electorate with their heads in the sand doesn't help. Damned if you do and damned if you do not. Debra Medina is developing a thicker skin I hope because it is not only necessary it is imperative.
Whether we like it or not she has to play the game the way it's laid out. She can only make changes from the governors seat, not outside the office window looking in. Those are the facts. Whether it ruffles feathers, hurts feelings or all the above. It is necessary.
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
I could not agree more SIR
I could not agree more SIR FELIX. I do wish she would avoid any appearances on FAUX NEWS. They are the enemy. Another attempt to trip her up tonight on the program "scoreboard"