Glenn Beck, the grassroots, and the campaign.
Yesterday evening, I received a phone call from my folks who listen to Glenn Beck. I converted them to Ron Paul a long time ago, but they still listen to Glenn and Laura and others, although with a much different perspective than they used to have.
During this show, a Supporter called and proceeded to name call Beck and hurl accusations about being in the pocket of the oil companies, etc etc etc.
Beck was polite and explained that he liked all but one of Ron Paul's positions, and said some wonderful things about Ron Paul. He basically reiterated his request for Ron Paul to be on, said he wants to help us, wants to be on our side, but that it is just the most insane thing because we won't let him.
The caller remained rude and combative and so Beck (rightfully) eventually ended the conversation and moved on.
Now, apparently the campaign isn't taking this serious enough. According to my folks, Beck usually takes most of December off to be with family. This means, that if that occurs this year, then we will miss out on a pre-first primary interview because of the official campaigns lack of responsiveness.
First, to anyone who insists on pestering Beck, this is rude and unnecessary. We got through, Beck heard us, extended an olive branch, and then the official campaign and us slapped it away.
Second, I am going to assume by Beck's conversation with this rude supporter that the campaign is NOT "working on" getting on the Beck show.
So, as I have said before, the reasons the campaign needed to do this were many and varied. Maybe someone in the campaign has gotten a big head and thinks that they can do no wrong.
The only reasons I can see for them turning it down are:
1) They think they don't need it.
2) They are holding a grudge on our behalf. This pridefulness would be something I would expect from another candidate. Not Dr. Paul.
3) They miscalclulate our true standing in things. This would mean the campaign staff is incompetent and cannot win an election.
4) They are afraid to have a full hour with Beck. Which I saw the interview with Pat, and see no reason for this fear. But even still, if they can't handle Beck, who can they handle?
Apparently, they didn't get the message the other day with the few polite calls. I intend to call the campaign today, and suggest everyone of a like mind do so also. This has gone on for long enough. They have had enough time to take care of this!





















Clean Break
Ron Paul, and his supporters, need to keep away, and/or make a clean break ---from Limbaugh, Hannity, and Glen Beck.
These 'conservatives' entertainers have shown their true colors. They are charlatans of the worst kind, and have tricked the masses to the point of where listeners can't have an original thought. It is called propaganda and brainwashing.
I say this, as someone who listened to Limbaugh in the early 1990's before he became a machine shill. Hannity, I saw through him immediately. Pity more people can't see; however, many eyes are being opened.
I pray more will be opened too. Leave these 'old media' ones behind !
Go forward with new resolve, and let the tricksters wither from their own small minds.
i was
blinded for years! but The Good Doctor cured my blindness. He annointed the salve of truth to my eyes and I can no longer tolerate those characters. LIARS!
talk about pissing in the ocean
Glen Beck is a nobody who has a bunch of angry, rascist, evangelicals who sell AMWAY, listen to him.
They like authority, and Nazism, so screw em.
We don't need Glenn Beck.
It sounds like Beck needs Paul, and or to trip him up.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.
That sounded like something
That sounded like something a bigot would say. I`m a mild evangelical but I dont let it rule my politics nor do i promote any nazism or racism. People like you will cost us the election with rhetoric like this.
Ron Paul 2012
No
It sounds like something a realist would say.
Beck blind sided Paul, with some wacky death threat from you tube, and it was meant to smear the good Dr.. Thank goodness the man is coated with teflon.
Glen Beck seems desperate to leach on to Paul, and the French Kiss comment was ridiculous, as a matter of fact, Glenn is ridiculous.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.
Dude, You need to chill
Dude,
You need to chill out!
Ron Paul is an evangelical by the actual definition so get your facts straight. The inbred, latenight, leisure suit wearing, corrupt televangelists do not represent Christianity as a whole any more than White Supremecists represent libertarianism. I have no love for Glen Beck. I think he's horrible but you need to get a hold of yourself and be more rational.
you chill
This country was founded on Freedom of and from Religion, and when I say Evangelical, I'm refering to the Israel worshipping, kill a muslim for Jesus crowd who happen to listen and watch Glen Beck.
Do no, we don't need Glen.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.
Well when you say
Well when you say Evangelical you are using the term incorrectly. An "Evangelical" is a Christian who evangelizes meaning he or she tells other people about Christ. That means that most Christians are evangelical many of whom are very intelligent and articulate. When you used the term you were making assumptions as to certain type of Christian that has become commonly referred to in the MSM as an "Evangelical" despite the fact that this is a name for a much broader category of people. You shouldn't watch so much MSM TV news....I also hate Glen Beck so we agree on that.
hey now, mediator!!
I just signed-up and this is only about my third post, so I'm not gonna "flag" that one. However, even though I don't look kindly upon Mormonism (or Romanism or neo-evangelicalism for that matter) I am tempted to.
(Maybe YOU reconsidering how prudent saying something like that was and thinking about deleting it is in order??)
peace....
"AX" (Matt. 3:10)
GLENN BECK IS A MORMON HIMSELF WITH AGENDA
Did you all know Glenn Beck's religion is Mormon?
Does, Romney ring a familiar bell with anyone?
BECK a Momon with Agenda - grow up!
Religion should have nothing to do with support...watch this video from LDS - the right name:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M-M4K_N55w
Yeah, so what?
Yeah, so what?
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
the Beck interview
went about as well as could be expected. A french kiss topped by a stab in the back .. that is my impression.
Some may differ about this opinion .
Brutus was Caesars adopted son and still stabbed him along with all the others.
Olive Branch? how about a greasy rope ? That is how i saw it. Any serious supporter would not have tried to embarass R.Paul with the absurdities that Glen Beck resorted to with R. Paul .
It is clear to me that in the world of mainstream media pundinsts R.paul has no allies, forget friends.
The style each uses to attack him may differ one from the other but, whether caustic of seemingly friendly either of those aim only to discredit him.
An olive branch extended from Beck is like a slippery rope offered by Hannity if he claimed to be throwing out a life preserver to Ron Paul .
I would Love to see someone of real integrety interview Ron Paul but , i can think of No one in mainstream media that possesses that level of integrety.
So can anything be done? I say yes , let the empty suits talk their garbage , let us bring Ron Paul to the people as we have been doing ..the vote is what matters .
Agreed!
Agreed!
Ron Paul needs to go on Glenn Beck's Show
If Ron Paul can stand there in a debate, telling an audience that contains immigrants from Cuba and Venezuela that we need to have relations with those countries, he can go on Glenn Beck. Indeed, Ron Paul was booed. Loudly. But he stood there. Even Rolling Stone wrote how courageous such a thing was.
Who cares if Glenn Beck is not neutral. Being forewarned is being forearmed. Personally, I think Ron Paul will do fine. It's a full hour for goodness sakes. All he gets most of the time on the MSM is a segment, maybe ten minutes.
It's free publicity, and worth a thousand television commercials. Think of the money saved. It's the prudent thing to do. Ron Paul needs the most bang for the buck. Going on Glenn Beck's show will gain exposure.
Oh, and I saw a segment of Ron Paul on Fox. He sat down with Hannity after each Fox News debate. And Ron Paul sounded good. If Ron Paul can out do Hannity, he can out do Beck.
Go on the show Ron Paul! We are sacrificing and donating on December 16th. We are doing our part. Now show us that you care about our money and accept all free publicity so you don't have to spend advertising dollars if you don't have to.
Of course he can handle Beck
That's not the point. The point is Ron Paul shouldn't have to handle Glenn Beck if he doesn't want to. Beck's audience is a measly 500,000, most of whom have probably already heard of Ron Paul and have probably already made up their minds about him. There's no good reason for him to appear on that show.
Ahhhh Beck?
Do we need Beck? Can he be useful to our campaign? Is he friend or foe?
Only Glen Beck can answer those questions and I do not believe he has to this date.
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My policy
Is that I do not Sleep with the Enemy. Do you go to bed with a rattlesnake?
Not me friend!
The Revolution Continues at http://nationbuilder.org
My policy is to know my enemy
thereby attracting the snake into your snare, cutting off its head, and eating it for dinner.
it tastes like chicken.
What about meeting with US?
Why don't we see if we can get Glenn a ride in the blimp? He has shilling to do for his book, doesn't he? I'm guessing he would welcome any publicity about himself...
Let him see some supporters up close. We aren't terrorists (but he knows that already).
I can't see anything wrong
I can't see anything wrong with this. He should be invited to ride on the blimp, and he should also be invited to talk with a roomful of Ron Paul supporters.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
The Analogy
Some have said that the Ron Paul campaign is an analogy where decentralized efforts are encouraged and not stifled by the official camp. So are they trying to STRENGTHEN this analogy by bumbling this opportunity to get this much free air time and publicity? Also, holding with this analogy, we should not be afraid to engage in talks with those that might seem hostile- that would be isolationism. The fact of the matter is, the people watching Glenn Becks show include many that are fed up with our government. There can be no down side to doing this, I don't care how dismissive or hostile Beck has been. Can he really be any worse than Michael Medved or Bill O'Reilly?
5% of people make things happen
10% of people watch things happen
85% say "What happened?"
I called the Campaign
and talked to a very nice girl named Jennifer. She wasn't sure if they were accepting the invitation or not... but she did take my name and number... meetup group info... and promised that she would get an answer and call back. I think if enough of us call the campaign... then at least they will know for sure that we want him on the show. I think we may get an answer one way or another and also the campaigns reason for not going on. I believe we should all make this call... afterall, this is "Dr. Paul & The Revolution" (us being The Revolution). <-- T-shirts coming soon!
~Joe
Yes, definitely
Have we forgotten that Ron Paul has been ignored, laughed at, and ridiculed at the debates, in interviews with other hosts, etc? And yet, he has always managed to deflect and turn around whatever criticism and loaded questions have come his way (e.g. "I take my orders from the Constitution", "Washington didn't change me"). Glenn Beck does what he does to draw an audience and ratings, and he obviously wants Ron Paul on the air because he knows it will benefit his show. So what? The exchange is mutually beneficial as any capitalistic exchange should be.
The opportunity to be on Glenn Beck's show is a gem for the campaign, free exposure, and the opportunity for Dr. Paul to respond to Beck directly and hold him accountable for his own criticisms and concerns. Rarely does Dr. Paul have an opportunity to interview with someone who is already on board with much of his libertarian views (that saves a lot of mindless discussions of irrelevant or redundant topics, i.e. "The View").
Please encourage Dr. Paul and the campaign to take advantage of this opportunity. Have confidence in his ability to stand up to Beck as he has in the debates. With a host and audience who are potentially holding out on Ron Paul merely because of one issue (foreign policy), this is a great opportunity to win them over. I seriously doubt that Dr. Paul could lose support through a Glenn Beck interview.
not just for intellectuals
I get tired of people disparaging Ron Paul's appearance on The View. Sure, he wasn't able to dazzle us with his brilliant discussions of the issues on that show, but that doesn't make the piece worthless or a waste of time. Far from it! Ron Paul reached millions of potential women voters on the show, and impressed them with his calm, patient manner and caring disposition. Not everyone votes on the issues, you know, and Ron Paul is not just for intellectuals!
I still think Glenn Beck needs Ron Paul more than Ron Paul needs Glenn Beck.
Yes, you are right...
I am considering the waste of a paltry 7 minutes given to Dr. Paul in which he had to deal with the run-around abortion comments and Whoopi's less-than-brilliant insight on China. Dr. Paul did the best he could with what they gave him on The View and probably did appeal to an audience that are more intelligent than the hosts; hopefully they followed up and researched him further. A full hour on Beck's show would probably allow him to go straight to the issues that are of greatest concern to him while avoiding the more mindless talk he had to deal with on The View.
I say do it
Might as well get the face time. Go on and be as relaxed and confident as possible. Express your logic and be at ease. Stand in the right. Let Beck know where he is wrong. Proceed with grace.
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I would also add that it is
I would also add that it is much more powerful and much more interesting to be interviewed by somebody who does not agree with you. There are plenty of friendly interviews of Ron Paul on YouTube that nobody watches.
A few minutes on O'Really generated more than 300,000 Views.
Ron, please drop everything else and go argue with Beck today!
I think they don't need it
I've been against Ron Paul going on Glenn Beck's show from the very beginning. I don't think he has extended an "olive branch," because as far as I know he hasn't apologized for implying Ron Paul supporters are "terrorists" or even bothered correcting the inaccuracies in that hit piece.
I'd be willing to bet almost all of Glenn Beck's viewers and listeners have heard of Ron Paul and have already made up their minds about him. Why preach to the choir? Ron Paul would do better to concentrate on new venues like "The View," during which he reached millions of potential women voters, many of who probably didn't know much about him, and now have a good first impression of him.
We don't need Glenn Beck!
Another Wrong Assessment
How much you want to bet? I am an avid Glenn Beck viewer, and with the conservative right group, Beck holds a lot of respect. He is essentially at parity with almost everything Dr. Paul says, and his only flaw was that he apparently listened to some talking heads that purposely linked these "money bomb" evernts to Guy Fawkes and some radical right-wingers who believe in armed insurrection in this country. And I saw some Ron Paul video clips where someone was wearing a mask from "V for Vendetta" that didn't help the arguments.
I was shocked at Beck's views on Ron Paul that night, and immedaitely went and researched his material. Know what I found? Right-wing extremists with an attitude writing some ridiculous skreed that was not conducive to Ron Paul's campaign. So I think that Beck could have received some balanced data from this group and maybe could have de-fused the report.
That being said, I still came over the Ron Paul compaign, and still watch Glenn Beck. And I have watched Dr. Paul handle any and all questions thrown at him by anyone and everyone. I don't think Glenn can do or say anything that would put Ron in a bad light, and quite the opposite, I think the campaign would be helped by having Ron on an hour-long show. Huckabee did it successfully, and Ron Paul can run circles around Mike.
I say, go for it, Dr. Paul! Glenn Beck has a very large audience, and you have the perfect platform.
-= Gary =-
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