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National Journal Ranks Ron Paul 140th Most Conservative Member of House

What a joke!

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/02/na...

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Shows that National Journal doesn't know conservatism

when they see it.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

Ron Paul

Ultra-liberal on war effort
Ultra-liberal on drug war
Ultra-liberal on internal security operations

Surely that's the way National Journal must see it.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

Response I Recieved From NJ Congressional Reporter:


Thanks for your interest in the National Journal vote ratings.

As described in this linked piece, the ratings are not based on an outside group or individual's standard of what is the "conservative" or "liberal" position on a set of issues. They are based on how the 435 House members (and, separately, the 100 Senators) lined up ideologically relative to each other. http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/02/ma... By that measure, there were more consistent conservatives in the House than Rep. Paul.

This is how we have prepared our vote ratings for nearly 30 years.

There are, of course, other ways to measure ideological performance and other groups that weigh it.

Rich Cohen
National Journal
Office: 202-739-8438
Cell: 202-316-5538
rcohen@nationaljournal.com

My Reply:


Mr. Cohen,

Thank you for the clarification.

So, the confusion arises in inappropriately labeling those rated as either liberal or conservative. If the Vote Rating merely measures how often representatives go along with the votes of their political parties, then the Vote Ratings are really only a measure of a representative's submission to political parties, and not how well they stand for liberal or conservative principles. As such, those rated should be referred to more accurately as either Democrat or Republican, and not liberal or conservative. It's disappointing to learn that The Vote Ratings are clearly a measure of conformity to political parties rather than principles.

The Vote Ratings would be much more powerful and meaningful if they represented how often a representative votes for legislation that is either in violation or accordance of the law they are all sworn to uphold regardless of political party.

Sincerely,

Great reply! Funny as it may

Great reply!

Funny as it may seem, a better methodology for determining how conservative, in the timeless sense, a representative's voting record is, would actually be to see how often his vote lined up with that of Dr. Paul's :)

Yep!

That would be pretty much the same thing! Since Dr. Paul never votes for a bill that is against the law.

National Journal....

WOW...! Guess who's #1 on my communist/fascist list!!

Very disappointed! I guess it's just another one of
the Rockefeller mouthpieces trying to defend and mislead on "Our agenda for globalism"....?!! Thank you for "misleading" your readers for all of these years, "We couldn't have done it without you"!!!
Google David Rockefeller's videos and see from the serpents mouth how thankfull he is to "Time", "Newsweek" and now, rags like "National Journal"!!!

National Journal considers policing the world 'conservative'

which pretty much is all you need to know about National Journal....

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

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yes, that's an aberrated concept

~
... they view conservative as neoconservative. They need to be schooled ... !

Neo-cons vs Real Conservatives
http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2006/05/02/43338.aspx

Pissed at the list?

I see lot of comments here, and at the source, of people upset Ron Paul isn't on the top of the list; that the list is inaccurate; that the author omitted the most conservative member, etc.

Have you ever heard of PROPAGANDA?

If not, refer to the noted article.

(Just for the record, propaganda is an effort to change perceptions about reality.)

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Posted there.

Prolife = Ron Paul
Balanced Budgets = Ron Paul
Sound Money = Ron Paul
Follow the Constitution = Ron Paul
Mind Your Own Business!!!! = Ron Paul

Who is the most Conservative Member of Congress?

RON PAUL!!!!
SteveMT | February 27, 2010 11:40 PM

Ron Paul is #1

Ron Paul is #1 conservative to conserve our good value and constitution.

Ron Paul is #1 liberal to defend our liberty.

Ron Paul is #1 in conservative, #1 in liberal, and #1 in the heart of we the people.

“History has never been dominated by majorities, but only by dedicated minorities who stand unconditionally on their faith.” --R.J. Rushdoony

a/k/a "Libertarian"

Really, all these labels are confusing when we don't make the distinction between values and politics.

If you want your values enforced politically, you are authoritarian politically, and if you want to use no political force, you are libertarian politically.

If you want to use force on personal values only, you are conservative politically, and if you want to use force on financial values, only, you are liberal politically. Although, technically "conservative" means to "conserve" and many conservatives are the original environmentalists, for example. And what do you conserve? The Constitution (which is libertarian) or the church, which goes back hundreds of years earlier and is often very authoritarian? And liberality is often good, depending on what you're being liberal with. These labels just don't work very well.

You can be authoritarian personally, conservative personally, and liberal personally, in your life as a parent, or manager, or in your religion, or other ways, and as long as you don't advocate using force on others through politics, you are libertarian in your politics. Freedom brings us together.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Ron Paul Ranks National Journal 140th Most Conservative Magazine

fixed that for you

Napolitano: "We need Ron Paul now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3JNRTVI0Q

Nice!

!

the MSM's definition of

the MSM's definition of "conservative", while accurately depicting a significant group, is not a consistent philosophy and CAN NOT mean what they say it means. No word besides "double-thinker" adequately describes what those neocon-followers believe.

Ventura 2012

This sent me looking for the meaning of conservative.

For example, how can a conservative believe that government can do no right at home but can do no wrong to our neighbors.

Free includes debt-free!

"How The Vote Ratings Are Calculated"

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20100227_8595.php

In short, their labeling the rankings as conservative or liberal is a misnomer. What the results in fact show is how likely a politician will vote lock-step with their party affiliation. In other words it's an ignoramus meter!

And for that reason ranking Ron Paul at the 140th spot is refreshingly more accurate.

It is indeed an idiot-meter

Unfortunately, I followed this link and read the methodology. What a bunch of Polyannaish nonsense. To assume votes can be divided into "liberal" versus "conservative" is to completely misunderstand how bills are created, modified, and approved.

I've stopped calling myself conservative

I've stopped calling myself conservative, and have embraced "libertarian." This is not because my principles have changed mind you, but because the term "conservative" is now synonymous with "neoconservative".

Conservative now means Complient.

Sorry Ron.

Discover Costa Rica

Undeclared war is not conservative!

National Journal,

Your Vote Ranking is very well organized and interesting, however it discredits itself by not honoring Dr. Ron Paul as the most conservative member in Congress.

Every single vote he has made for 30 years has been in accordance with the United States Constitution, which is the supreme law, might I add. Sometimes when he has voted in accordance with the law, he has voted alone, which demonstrates that every other member in the House is willing to violate the law.

No other member of congress can claim a conservative record even remotely close to Dr. Paul. With such a conspicuous error in your Vote Ranking, the entire reliability of your list must be questioned.

Undeclared war is not conservative! In fact, it's illegal.

The Vote Ranking brings shame upon on the National Journal.

my comment

MADISON: "War is in fact the true nurse of executive aggrandizement." (4/20/1795)

JOHN ADAMS: ...do not "go abroad looking for dragons to slay."

THOMAS JEFFERSON: "peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none."

Hmmmm, maybe just maybe there is something wrong with the way you are measuring things?

Ron Paul is #1 in my book.
(and in the mind of most who read books)

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"If you’re into political activism, at least for Ron Paul if not for anyone else, I strongly recommend spending some time with iroots.org." - Tom Woods

They discredited their own list! Utter foolishness.

People are waking up to the establishment stupidity.

Garbage.

They're trying to redefine the word...

heart warming to see

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please do it more often and encourage other family members to post here where rEVOLution has home!

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So? "Conservative" has been

So? "Conservative" has been Orwelled. It now refers to people who want to use government and guns to control others' behavior, both domestically and abroad, to suit their (frequently twisted) morals.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

"Conservatism discards

"Conservatism discards Prescription, shrinks from Principle, disavows Progress; having rejected all respect for antiquity, it offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future." -Benjamin Disraeli

Thats because 'the sheep' think of conservative as something

entirely different and they are correct for the most part.

Conservative has a meaning all its own these days. It is associated with UN security councils and legislating morality if it ever gets the chance to control or 'correct' how others choose to live their lives.

It increases budgets for military empire and allows and encourages its candidates, like Michelle Bachmann, to repeat what they hear in some of these(not all), religio/politico indoctrination centers called churches (but are these 'real' Christian churches?)

They are correct. Ron Paul is not of their ilk and never will be. He is a 'true' conservative in the sense of conserving our Rule of Law and refers to it and educates America about it.

It is the 'neo conservatives' that would be ranked at the bottom according to a Ron Paul conservative!