Zeitgeist Films - Beware Of Trap!

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I felt I would share this with you. This is a response to an email I got from an 'unaware' friend who was asked to spread this 'Zeitgeist' film around and join this movement.

I am, for many, many reasons in complete opposition to such a 'movement'.

The elder fellow Jacques Fresco, is being used as a kind of 'visionary, utopian drug' to induce youth and those who wish to 'escape' the system into a place within themselves where they don't have to take personal responsibility.

There are quite a few examples in the film that provide a misguided 'reasons' to join this 'movement'. But it is a trap. Though I have no proof, I can only suspect this is a covert CIA/banking operation to attract all those who are NOT making it in the current paradigm will find themselves attracted to this. And of course many are NOT making it, how could they in a controlled monopoly?

Jacques claims that democracy has failed(Duh, it has failed because democracy is 'mob rules', its not the rule of law - U.S. Constitution), and all these 'isms' are scams(which they are), however, its a fallacy to be induced by ambiguous ideas such as these that have no clear suggestion as to how things will be dealt with.

There is mention that 'nothing' will be owned.

That is a red flag right there. So who, may we ask, 'will' own the fruits of labors? They avoid the 'centralization' of ownership issue that is so glaring, completely. So you can't 'own' the fruits of your labors therefore you will not 'own' your mind, body and spirit either!!!

What happens if you disagree with 'their system'? Terminated of course. Their psychiatrists will label anyone who does not 'adapt' to their model of the world as 'selfish' and unfit for the privilege of living and terminate them.

They are attempting to get people used to this new world order cult of 'non-ownership' despite the fact that there will be those who control this centralized system that is being planned through these two films 'zeitgeist' (which btw is a NAZI term).

You will notice that each time Jacques is being filmed, in the background, are his many illustrations of all these futuristic buildings and cities behind him. Those illustrations are the 'inducement' to the mind of those who see this thinking what it would be like to live in those buildings, its gotta be better than what we are living in now.

This so called movement is a concern to so many of us patriots, because they are calling for 'no government'. No government = anarchy. Of course when you have anarchy it swings to its polar, tyranny. And tyranny beyond anything imaginable people will get if they are seduced into this. The bankers know their gig is up so they are preparing for their next gig.

Limited government as the founders created, were based upon our inherent, sovereign, Rights and ownership of property. The governments only job, as the founders saw it, was to protect those Rights through enforcement, the individuals sovereignty, defence of our borders, fire, police and infrastructure maintenance. That is all. But that is not what we have today. Govt has become a leviathan empire because the bankers control this whole system. USA is unrecognizable because our Constitution is currently under siege. But there is a patriotic undercurrent occurring, a movement to restore our Constitution. Bankers are certainly aware of this tsunami building in our country for the return of the rule of law!

Jacques is hastily being 'offered' as a kind of messiah to the world through these Zeitgeist videos innoculating the you tubes with them these past two years.

There are youth drawn to him because what he says seems to soothe and alleviate all their anxiety and issues of the current world mess that they are worried about. He mesmerizes his audience with a kind of fairy world where no one will have to take personal responsibility. Red flag!

It is far more meaningful to 'audit the fed' and work towards dismantling it than anything right now. After a year of building momentum and hearings, Dr.Ron Paul's bill H.R.1207 Audit the Fed bill (which has 317 co sponsors in the congress, those who now wish to see the fed audited and find out where all these trillions went and begin indictments) has finally passed the house and will now have to pass Senate. It currently enjoys 32 co-sponsors out of 100 total Senators. So there is a pretty high probability that this may pass and this entire system will have to give way to a 'free market economy' and sound money.

So, it appears the bankers are already working on their plan B via 'Zeitgeist'.

Dr.Paul is expected to run again for president in 2012 and he stands a very excellent chance this time around because of the Ron Paul revolution that the grassroots have created around his message. Educated youth who know their history and hold dear their rights are behind Dr.Paul. They are the 'real' revolution because they are willing to take responsibility for their lives and futures now.

We notice 'Rights' will not be mentioned at all by Jacques Fresco in Zeitgeist. Complete avoidance of the 'R' word. No sovereignty recognized. They will do with you what they will and you will all do as you are told or else...

Those joining are simply deluding themselves until of course they realize what kind of scam this is. Read: World socialism/communism (cleverly avoid using those 'isms' even denouncing them) = new world order through the United Nations.

Beware!

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Zeitgeist has woken up many sheep I have seen it

Zeitgeist has woken up many sheep I have seen it, but I did grow suspicious in retrospect some months after seeing it.

The unusual thing with Zeitgeist is that it very loosely joins a story about Jesus/Cosmos with 911 and banking fraud. The joiner is supposed to be that the established institutions have been lying severly. I am suspicious of this inclusion of the Jesus/Cosmos story in the group since this joiner just seems to weak and this part seems out of place - though the info was extrememly shocking in effect. It definately cracked a small part of my sheep brain that was still on autopilot - even though I don't necessarily believe the content.

Perhaps the first part is there to turn Christians away from 911/banking truth? Perhaps it is for athiest/agnostic re-eforcement among those that are aware of 911/banking truth?

The final part of the 2nd Zeitgest file Addendum is the terrible part which goes on about a communist technocratic world - described as a utopia.

They can't have been too awake and that is the problem.

These films are 'dangerous' only because they mislead the 'sleepy' ones into a terrible trajectory of a fantasy world not unlike that of a hazy drug-induced state. Anything to keep people from personal responsibility and keep them thinking they ought to be 'taken care of' by big government/central planning, then all will be well.

I would say 80% of Democrats and 40% Republicans rely on big government for their livelihoods and unconsciously will support this as in a sleep walk, yet amongst people like us, will feel ashamed by this weakness in themselves, will feel 'negative' about the platform DPers tend to support and vote against it.

don't worry alex. zeitgeist

don't worry alex. zeitgeist will not sway your fans. it is not the cointelpro bogeyman.

Zeitgeist films - a trap or an attempt to create a Myth of . . .

Zeitgeist film series may be one of the attempts to create a Myth of Neo Dark Age to justify a new social order as hypothesized by Richard Moore in "Crashing Towards a New World Social Order 2012", March 1, 2010 (http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article17568.html)

He suggests that there is an attempt by elites to engineer global catastrophic event(s) in preparation for their global domination by a centralized, micromanaged, post-capitalist, economic regime. And that Mythology will be manufactured to make this radical social transformation palatable. He cites examples of how we are already partially conditioned to accept micromanaged lives and microprogrammed beliefs and thoughts. . . through TV programs, surveillance and such.

(from the Postscript of R. Moore's article)
". . . So I think there is a sound basis for anticipating the kinds of mythology that would be designed for leaving behind and rejecting the old ways, and seeing the new as a salvation. There is a long historical precedent of era changes linked with mythology changes, often expressed in religious terms. There will be a familiar ring to the new mythology, a remixing and re-prioritizing of familiar values and assumptions, so as to resonate with the dynamics of the new regime."

Read his article: it's very thought-provoking. -y

This is a good analysis with R. Moore of this 'myth'.

He is referring to this collectivist social engineering that we already see being attempted/imposed on us all.

I suspect this the most when I hear about how some school in S.C. are wiping out big chunks of history so the students have no sense of context.

There is a war on religion and some churches themselves have betrayed their own parishes by encouraging warmongering therefore sabotaging Christian churches from within. This adds to the 'myth' surprise, surprise, that Christian churches are 'evil' and misleading the people.

Not all Christians are warmongers, nor do all Christians support these illegal invasions. But weird covert engineered 'myth' is being socially formed through various covert infiltrations.

We see the same thing happening with these shooting sprees. Yet media does not report the fact that each of those shooters at Columbine, Virginia Tech, this recent Army base shooter, were all on psychotropic drugs and were under the influence of a psychiatrist. We read about that later when the whole thing has died down.

I think it can be said that covert patterns are pretty distinct now.

Get back in the pen Sheep !!!

"It's too dangerous to think outside the box".

That is the message I'm getting from your post.

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

You really ought to apply your comment to

your own thinking process here.

You would not be autonomous in Fresco's world but a slave to some faceless central committee.

As soon as you become resentful of not being compensated appropriately for your services, they will sig their psychiatric thugs after you, inject you with drugs and try to 'rehabilitate' you to be 'selfless' so you could adapt to the artificial realm.

I strongly invite you to see the 1967 series of 'The Prisoner'. If you want a deeper understanding as to the kind of world they are planning for us. Once you understand this they don't have you.

"Anyone who makes a 'documentary' is correct"

is what I hear you saying.
I fell for it at first. Then I looked at history; not going to work. Sounds nice, but no matter how profoundly we perfect machines, this theory will never be realized.

Were too dumb to figure it out

is what i hear you saying "°". Back in the pen sheeple.

There are a few inconsistencies in Zeitgeist, but over all it is a great "out of the box" perspective.

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

A global resource....

A global resource command and control system where a central authority determines what and how much you get as a replacement for money and commerce is "out of the box"?

Maybe if you've never heard of Marx and Lenin...

:p

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"Wobbles but doesn't fall down" - weebles

personal attacks

reveal weak arguments.

G. Edward Griffin's critical review

"...I watched it two nights ago and was deeply disturbed by its message..."

http://www.infowars.com/zeitgeist-addendum-a-critical-review/

we are the Remnant

He and I are definitely on the same

page. I really love G.Edward Griffin's take on this. He goes into further detail about the collectivist basis of this movie especially when the narrator in the film let the cat outta the bag by stating "free market enterprise" is the root of all evil.

Sounds like a lot of us got the number on their pathetic deception here.

Good analysis of crummy Marxist solutions

AKA Zeitgeist

Free includes debt-free!

Partially Agree with this warning, but...

I know the makers of Zeitgeist indirectly (one acquaintance removed) and this friend spent 10 years in the military and slowly became aware of the hidden agenda of the UN/NWO. He can say with much assurance that the Zeitgeist makers are not part of the "Elite" that we are fighting. However, I expressed my concerns to this acquaintance about their agenda also being Zionist and misleading for the believers in true liberty. So while the original film can make many aware of what is going on, the sequel is dangerous in it's promotion of a "shared" society where everyone does their part in a perfect utopia. This to me is still a cashless society of dependents where apathy can run rampant and laziness will spread. I for one, will not be a part of any society where my hard work ends up being a handout. I support the causes I choose and I believe this world should be based on every man for himself short of anarchy. The Swiss people keep themselves in check, they are required to be armed and they have the lowest crime in the world. They are also the defenders of their country in a time of need. America was founded on this principle, and citizens arrest should once again be embraced. It's time to flush out the criminals and take care of ourselves and our families like the free men we were meant to be.

Anisha, would the limited government you'd approve of...

...still extort money from people, or would it be funded in a completely voluntary fashion?

Perhaps you didn't see my question above.

Seriously... are you calling for freedom or merely the masters which you'd approve of?

Evil is never necessary. People who wish to commit evil deeds against other people have convinced you that it is.

I'm a BIG fan of the Z movies...

...and suggest them to many that wander through life with eyes closed...I agree with movie #1 in its entirety, and I agree with movie #2...right up to the point of segment #3 and this vision of Utopia. UURRRGGGHHH! What a crock...this Earth of ours is NOT something out of Star Trek where we don't have money, or competition or anything else that defines us as human. Is it a glorious future Fresco forsees? Perhaps, but we simply haven't 'evolved' far enough to live that way.
The other 5 segments force the viewer to question the world around him ...to question that which has been regarded as "truth" for an entire lifetime. For that, I am greatful to the film-maker. Always question authority, whether it's your boss, your government or your preacher. Trust no one.

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

I love watching Zeitgeist.

Not so much the addendum.

Thanks Anisha for this well thought out and very logical

refutation of a very dangerous movie.

I watched the first one a while back and came to similar conclusions for similar reasons.

These movies are bad news. Just more of the same "technocracy" stuff that manifested itself in Germany in the 1930s. (Though it was everywhere at the time)

The whole Global Warming nonsense is based in this flawed idea of a benevolent technocracy that ignores the individual and promotes the "group."

Such is the basis for tyranny.

Technocracy based upon

psuedo science to create illusions, complicated abstractions that bamboozle the mind. Like FRNs, checks, and bank cards, vaccines, bogus agricultural methods, and germ theory!

The times I dream of will be when the world is truly ready to live within Divine Laws(aka Universal Laws/Natural Laws). This will truly be when our spirituality meets with technology for the improvement and betterment of all life forms on the planet. That would be 'real' science in my books.

This has been repressed since the days Atlantis went under.

I also saw Zeitgeist as bad mojo.

I had already seen this:

The Century Of The Self - Happiness Machines
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C58AE7D1E8681076&sea...

Carl Jung is the antidote. (patience required)

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4070BE95E1C9E86F&sea...

(Bowels have movements)

Free includes debt-free!

small, sad and not evolved yet minds...

How childish and close-minded you are... Jacque Fresco is a genus visionary of our time... http://www.thevenusproject.com/

And yes, he is not perfect... Jacque’s one World IT Control/Coordination Centre is not a practical idea... each nation should have it’s own independent IT Centre... and... each IT centre should be able to communicate with other centres...

As to the question... WHO WILL CONTROL these IT Centres...? Jacque is proposing... “engineers/scientists”... -but how they will be ‘elected?’...

Well, we can learn something from our Mother Nature... can’t we...? just look at the ant at bee colonies - the best organized societies...

Question about money...? of course there will be no money - your brain just can not understand it yet... look at the perfect Swiss society here... http://www.methernitha.com/enVideo.html

If your present mind can not see the love and peaceful co-existence as shown in AVATAR... than your only hope may come in your next life... since you are not a body - but rather a microscopic part of the vibrating bundles of energy and universal knowledge...

Thanks for the Link!

Looks awful nice there. (methermitha)It does take an enlightened mind to embrace such concepts however. Mutual Aid, Cooperation, love and respect for one another. Basically, in a nut shell, socialism from the heart and not the state.

Avatar is also a questionable movie.

Both my children, late teens, said it was the best movie they ever saw.

They also were positively affected by 'Zeitgeist' and tried to convince me that the Z film was all against the Federal Reserve as if it would 'please' me to know this.

As their parent I know they are young and have a lot to learn. They care about their world and have anxiety about the way things are. They tend toward idealism, and are deeply impressionable. If parents DONT like it, it must be good!

Well, they got my take on this and seem confused. All I could do was answer their questions and let them figure it out in time.

I will see this Avatar film for myself, but I get a very bad feeling its a 'set up' for the next generation.

I will be viewing this film with an analytical mind to see just what is the propaganda here.

All of us in this 'Ron Paul movement' will be working overtime in the next five years it seems.

Great post!

BUMP! BUMP BUMP!

"it is good for the establishment to adopt liberty ideology, but it is not good for those who have already adopted liberty to fall to the feet of the establishment." ~ Annica2

I did see one of these

It was using some truths to come to some strange conclusions, especially when it came to Christianity.
Just looks like one more tool for division.

Thank you for not being one of the....

Zietgiest apologists, and for using reason and logic to refute the geeneral perception of these movies.

But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers

There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer

Anisha-

Most of the time I'm 100% in agreement with you but on this one I don't. You take issue of the utopia part of the film. The Zeitgeist films are broken into 3 segments. The utopia you mention is part 3 of the Zeitgeist Addendum, the 2nd movie. I can see your point but there's a lot of eye-opening parts. Criticizing one segment? What about the 1st & 2nd part? What about Zeitgeist- The Movie?