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I Told You! Truthers Torpedoed Medina!

I told you so...Medina would have been much better....but you truthers kept at it.....now we're stuck with neo-Rino Perry....thanks alot!

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Medina sold out a large part of her supporters!

If she will sell us out now, she'll sell us out later. I'm sorry you're stuck with Perry, but candidates better start standing up to these stupid 9-11 questions.

It's quite apparent to anyone who takes the time that we aren't getting the full story on 9-11, period.


Torpedoed Medina, she had a good story then flip flopped.

But medina is a truther....

But medina is a truther.... and she just denied it at the last moment



It was bound to happen

when a candidate calls, or agrees to calling, a large percentage of her supporters despicable. We've got to move on now and concentrate on finding another candidate to defeat Perry/White.

Since someone renewed this thread

I have a point to make,If we care about the freedom and future of this country we have to start with the fact that we are all looking for the same thing and need to agree on what this same thing is.
Is it what "I" want for me now,or is it what "We" want for the future of this country?At some point we have to decide, is what we are doing for "I" or is it for "Us" and our future generations including our grand children and their grand children.
Those of you that say "I" are being as selfish and greedy as the folks we hate.Those of you that say "us" are on the right track because it is the right track for the future of our country.
Now I would like to use an analogy from baseball,As far as Candidates go,You are not lying if you say nothing,We have the freedom to be silent on certain issues no matter how we feel.
So we need to Bunt,even though we know we could "possibly" knock it out of the park,In the winning game it is better to "load" the bases with good runners before we put in the heavy hitter to send them all home.
I would like to request that we get a new signal base for the third base coach,so they cannot "read" us!I truly believe this needs to be done for the future of our country.
Thank you for your time ATruepatriot.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Hey Mikelawson?

Would you please let me know if I am going in the right direction with the above?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

county sheriff

that is the key to sucsess

live free or die

from somebody on the outside looking in

it seems pretty obvious that both jones and beck were very interested in making her look silly.

that doesn't mean "truthers" had anything to do with it -- but certainly brings in to question what these two clowns were up to.

What medina should have said....

"A truther? Well, if my voters are truthers, then I will look for the truth they are looking for, that's just how it is. Politics."

Glen slams here some more....

"The first ammendment gives us freedom of speech, and lets for a moment at least give them freedom of thought. Think about it Glen."


Hobo14, you are a moron. I'd

Hobo14, you are a moron. I'd elaborate as to why, but you wouldn't understand it.


Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

They did not

That is just absurd.

So many divisive topics nowadays.

Freedom brings people together.

If any

of you dim-wits think you're going to get elected by pandering to the establishment media, and allowing them to shut you up, you are in for quite the surprise. They plan to bury you, no matter if you pander to them or not.

Because you see, once they've proven you to be cowards, and get you back-pedalling on this issue, then they know they have you.
Their next tactic is to shut you up on any subjects you want to bring up. And they'll do it exactly the same way.
Why? Because you proved to them that it worked, that's why.

Federal Reserve? Hah! Totally kooky. "You don't believe in THAT, do you?"
End the War? "I suppose you want us all dead, right? How can you be taken seriously with an idea like that? I need to french-kiss Rick Perry."
Etc, etc.
They will wipe the floor with you.

If you can't stand the heat, then maybe you oughtta rethink this "revolution" idea.

so pander to the group

that has leaders saying "the videos are all cgi", "no planes hit the building", then use the same videos as evidence for building 7 collapse? or pander to those truther parade leaders who could deduct exactly the missile model and build that hit the pentagon by analyzing three blurred frames of a one second, poor-resolution video?

I tire of your

constant neocon-isms, too.

Perhaps you'd like the folks over at Little Green Footballs better, since they are more sympathetic to your point of view.

i'm a non-interventionist

and i don't use strawman or putting-words-in-other-people's mouth liberal techniques as you do. there's no closet neo-cons here, paranoid boy.

She refused to disavow the lunatic fringe

and lost votes. She showed some voters she wasn't a serious candidate. Those votes probably went to Perry giving him a majority. Too bad for her, too bad for Texas.

Give me a break!

The votes she lost and that went Perry were over the 9/11 Glenn Beck interview where the neocon faux tea party people were purposely steered towards Perry.

These people know nothing of what most here have researched and they believe Beck 100%!! THAT is where she lost votes...not on the followup hit job by AJ and Mark Davis.

Do you not realize these Teo-O-Conned people view any questioning of 9/11 as a traitorous offense and believe people that DO question it are traitors and should be shot?!!!

Please understand..a candidate running for office cannot touch this!! Go out and support the many groups that ARE able to ..go out to your own town square and bullhorn all you want!! Our candidates have a lot of courage,time, money , and energy invested and many people to represent ..not just 9/11 truthers.

I say this as someone that wholeheartedly supports a new investigation!!

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Not so fast, Belle

I've more than defended and owned the verbal real estate you've called, "the followup hit job by AJ", as being NO SUCH THING.

Since self-evident truth appeals to all people of good will, and self-serving lies damage all who trust in them, then good and evil are being weighed here.

Since you have refused to defend your slander of both of us so far, I invite your respectful reply, asap. Removal from my friends list would be expected and agreeable if you wish otherwise.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Nothing she said in her Glenn Beck interview

was unreasonable, whatsoever.

She could have likely handled it better, but I am sure she didn't assume so-called "Tea Party" (really Tea-O-Con) man Glenn Beck would go this route, so it doesn't seem that she prepared for this ambush (if you don't believe it was an intentional ambush, I have a bridge to sell you).

Part of the problem is that too many people who are associated with the liberty movement give more credence and deference to irrational blowhards than they do to rational people who seek an actual proper conception of reality.


Freedom - Peace - Prosperity

Heres an idea

Lets fix the system then go after 9/11 truth. The "Truthers" are so backwards in there convictions that there will never be another investigation as long as they continue to destroy viable candidates that can and would enact this change. They spout off from the hip with complete disregard for the implications of their blathering's.

Sit down and join the ride. How can we get a new investigation if all you "Truthers" do is shut down those who can take action.

This whole "Truther" movement is in complete opposition to the freedom movement.

P.S. I believe it was an inside job. I'm not going to sabotage this movement with my beliefs. There are greater things at stake here people. Throw that hot item on the back burn. Freedom is at hand.

On the other hand . . .

... more and more people are coming to doubt the 9-11 liars. Witness the architects, engineers and firefighters now getting good publicity for challenging the official story.

Meanwhile, millions of people are coming to understand the pervasive corruption behind the economic crisis. And millions more are coming to understand that government itself is the greatest threat to our health care.

The more people come to distrust their government -- for whatever reason -- the better. Let the other side scurry to hide from the truth. We should embrace it, on all issues.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Ros...

well stated....



If the revolution stifles dissent, deems certain topics worthy because it strengthens it's power and others unworthy because they don't follow the collective brainwashing, what exactly is the revolution attempting to save and promote? Perhaps just itself? That's no change from the current system of power first, party or philosophy above all and protection of an individuals right to question authority ignored.

Are we to believe that getting the right amount of certain candidates elected to DC is going change anything? That's hopeful but doubtful.

If somebody has questions concerning 911, I believe they have a right to ask those questions until they receive an answer. JMO

Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio

how do you effing equate

using political tactics and letting 911 take the POLITICAL backseat to "stifling dissent"? the protection of freedom of speech is never meant for individual to individual. if violence is involved, that simply involves the protection of life and that still doesn't have anything in terms of free speech because a crime is a crime.. it doesn't matter if it was hate speech or what not.. constitution 101.. it is the government who can't subvert free speech in any manner.. but if you come into my house and say something i don't like to hear i have every right to kick you the hell out of my house with no repercussion. nobody is threatening violence here. people are simply asking you to VOLUNTARILY use your brain and think JUST A LITTLE and evaluate political merits, consider the pros and cons, and willingly participate a team effort without sabotage because of your RETARDATION.. you're not writing a guideline for the federal constitution.. this is as local as an effort gets and remember local people were supposed to have more control over their activities? wtf is that wrongly applied rant when we're neither engaging something coercive nor national, and there is no "stifling of dissent"? WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO COERCE ANYBODY INTO ANYTHING.. THAT'S THE THING YOU NEED TO 'STIFLE DISSENT'..WE ARE 'DISCUSSING'.. WITH 'WORDS', NOT 'GUNS'.. way to stick your head in the clouds.. are you a philosophy major drop out? smarten up or just get out. trust me there is no "stifling of dissent" here. we won't come after you with a gun. holy jeezus..

Who is going to provide those answers?

The Rick Perry and KBH clones in DC?

There needs to be politicians in place who believe in the right to question the government; not necessarily that 9/11 was an inside job.

What is it about tactics that people fail to understand?

Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

What is it about tactics that people fail to understand?

I don't know, Lisa, but it's driving me nuts!! I am all for a new investigation of 9/11 but for our running candidates it is the "poision pill!" There are many ways to demand and work towards 9/11 truth ..GO FOR IT!!

But for our candidates running for office 9/11 is the third rail!! Let them get in office for Gods sake!

They cannot openly speak of this in this country and at a time where we have everyday people saturated in propaganda... indoctrinated to that think people that question 9/11 should be shot as traitors!!

Many other people and organizations are able to speak up..but our candidates cannot do it without being cut off at the knees in the current political atmosphere!!

"Discretion is the better part of valor."

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

How Dare you! You blame

How Dare you! You blame people that just want some truth out of this government on the biggest turning point in modern history? You have a screw loose, pal and I think you need to back up. Why are you even here? We are all seekers after the Truth here, or so I thought.

People aren't hurting enough to give a damn yet. Just look at the turn out numbers. It's PATHETIC! Half of the people phone it in and vote Incumbent/straight party ticket every time. The rest don't show up or vote based on whatever their favorite TV/Radio jock suggests is the right candidate.

People like you are the ones being led around by the nose and told what to think. It's no wonder we are in this condition as a nation. We are a nation of sheep.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

I have been here about as long as you have been.

I agree with you that "truthers", by redefining what it means to be a "truther",cost Medina a long shot at a run-off.

And ...

More importantly ...

They hurt the freedom movement as a whole.

They are doing the same thing to the freedom movement that the global warming advocates are doing to science.

If you want to be an IJ or a CD whacko, feel free, just show some tolerance for those of us that are equally skeptical of your claims as we are of the Commission's Report.


But at this point, the only thing left to do is...