The 9-11 "factor"Submitted by Derek Johnson on Wed, 03/03/2010 - 03:49
Since I have a lively debate with jtstellar over the 9-11 "truther" thing, I thought it might be good to flesh out a few wrinkles for all to participate. Let me copy-paste in our exchanges.
Submitted by jtstellar on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 21:37.
the truthers in our movement are certainly doing a hell of a job in self policing that they can give opportunities to political opponents to expose weakness in almost every single serious shot this liberty movement has in putting candidates in important offices.. and our candidates don't even know jack about 911 theories and have no idea of the shit going on between truthers and MSM, and hey just get caught right in between. heck of a job of self policing. either that or it's just the rest of us liberty individuals' fault for not separating ourselves from political suicide loons faster.
"Sure buddy, buildings fall at freefall speed..."
Submitted by Derek Johnson on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 21:44.
and pigs fly
and cats bark
and cops don't eat donuts
and bears don't poop in the woods
and, BTW, Ron Paul flat rejects the 9-11 official lie here at 0:51
Submitted by jtstellar on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 21:50.
when did i say 911 doesn't have questions. good work in putting words in my mouth, why don't you vote democrat? your strategy is similar. sure buddy, 911 is a more important issue than state rights, gun control, health care, military non-intervention put together because it's automatic suicide when a truther gets close to a political campaign. is the 911-trump-everything your line of reasoning and your limit of understanding in politics? or am i putting words in your mouth? and am i ever against you getting the hell out and start a 911 oriented political movement on your own? no.. so why didn't you mention it? and most importantly, why aren't you doing it. you shouldn't be here.
"So, jtstellar's council is, if you know a BIG lie..."
Submitted by Derek Johnson on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 21:56.
...then you dare not say anything of it for political expediency?
Do I understand you correctly, jtstellar?
"why aren't the truther crowds getting a truther candidate"
Submitted by jtstellar on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 22:26.
on their own, restricted strictly to the 911 issue? what hypocrites. every individual liberty member came into this movement with assorted baggage. some came in neo-con, some hardcore liberal, some hard christian right, some hardcore atheist, some pro-life, some pro-choice. everyone has since dropped their personal agenda once they saw what ron paul had been able to accomplish within the system with tireless effort and perseverance.. in conjunction with WISDOM.. the only group that is only riding the liberty movement as a convenient vehicle to use it "for expediency" is the 911 truthers.. and your agenda is such that any candidate who doesn't satisfy your personal priority will be sabotaged by those in your group.. what hypocrites.. you despise expediency without principle yet you are willing to stay here and waste your energy arguing with those who are serious about working within the system, instead of slowly but consistently work to start a 911 political campaign on your own in the hope that one day the issue becomes mainstream. why? because it's easier here. you make me sick.
"I make you sick? Hypocrite?"
Submitted by Derek Johnson on Wed, 03/03/2010 - 02:44.
Now please scroll down to district 57. That's me. I'm a political candidate, a mechanical engineer, and yes, highly skeptical of the 9-11 building collapses since 2005.
Speck in my eye, plank in your eye?