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NYFD Is About To Make 9/11 Liars Look Like Fools!

Allow me to show you how the NYFD is about to make Glenda Beckster and a lot of other people look like FOOLS!

Thanks to the Architects for Truth. The Science is finally proving that 911 was in fact an inside job, not made up by Conspiracy “nuts”, but here firefighter Eric Lawyer states flatly that the "Book For Forensic Preservation of Evidence From a Crime Scene" was blatantly ignored. True. But no one better than a FireFighter familiar with that “book” to say so.

Willie Rodriquez was erased from the fraudulent Federally tainted so called 911 investigation, Prof. Jones thermate evidence ignored, Key witnesses were seen being thrown out for trying to testify.

Finally, a Fire Fighter for truth group for Fire Fighters to stand up and join. No longer silent, while the pieces of their fellow NY Fire Dept. firefighters lay buried in the landfill without dignity or proper burial


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for a golden oldie.

Great vids.

They know other countries were involved but won't say which

Imagine the outrage if people back in 1941 were told that Pearl Harbor was attacked...but then the government refused to say who attacked us?

That's what we have with 9/11...the attackers are protected as the info is "classified."

Let's go back to an interview with the 9/11 Commission leaders, that took place after the conclusion, with PBS Gwen Ifill:

GWEN IFILL: Senator Graham, are there elements in this report, which are classified that Americans should know about but can't?

SEN. BOB GRAHAM: ...I was surprised at the evidence that there were foreign governments involved in facilitating the activities of at least some of the terrorists in the United States.

I am stunned that we have not done a better job of pursuing that to determine if other terrorists received similar support and, even more important, if the infrastructure of a foreign government assisting terrorists still exists for the current generation of terrorists who are here planning the next plots.

To me that is an extremely significant issue and most of that information is classified, I think overly-classified. I believe the American people should know the extent of the challenge that we face in terms of foreign government involvement. That would motivate the government to take action.

GWEN IFILL: Are you suggesting that you are convinced that there was a state sponsor behind 9/11?

SEN. BOB GRAHAM: I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government and that we have been derelict in our duty to track that down...

GWEN IFILL: Do you think that will ever become public, which countries you're talking about?

SEN. BOB GRAHAM: It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now. And, we need to have this information now because it's relevant to the threat that the people of the United States are facing today.

At a minimum, reasonable people should demand to know!

END the FED before it ENDS US

It's plainly Israel. The

It's plainly Israel. The Zionists along with their partners in crime, the neocons, carried this out.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

Anyone that can read can learn that the official story is a hoax

All one must do is buy the book, "The ground truth" written by the lead legal counsel for the 9/11 commission. John Farmers book not only exposes that the government and the actual time line during the investigation are completely different and he states "At some point, the government decided to lie about 9/11", and goes on to further insinuate that what we know as a nation about that day is a complete fabrication. I also highly suggest watching (if you have net flix)"9/11 Press for Truth", as it deals with only main stream media information and timelines that contradict much of what the official report states, and what the political class adheres to today.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

It looks to me like the offical story is in shambles!

The two biggest problems with it are Norad and WTC7.

It is becoming more evident that...


Can anyone site an example of where "official government sources" told the truth about anything of substance? WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iran Contra, the War on Drugs, and more recently, rendition, wiretapping, torture, Afghanistan and Iraq.

The "government" has lied about everything. But luckily in this one case, 9/11, they have told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Thank God.

Blue you make some really good points

Given your dead-on logic do you think the next logical step is to seek Corporatist Justice from a Corporatist Court System?

Hasn't there already been "independent" investigations; if the gov't is "hiding" something (which they are) then will they hand it ALL over or only enough to bring about inconclusive evidence?

I guess my question is: Can we get justice from Corporatist Media where Corporatist Banking / War-Profiteering Lobbyist run Washington and the Court system has never known the Constitution?

I think "justice" is to end the causative agent behind 911; corporatism, don't you?

It will not happen by corporatist means
---It's a pipe dream

People are grotesquely apathetic.

Go to a Pro-Baseball game or better yet a huge Swap Meet and talk with the "average" american.

This is why the model I'm building begins with "benefiting" the participants.

Don't forget Pat Tillman


nice point!

Stopping Farm Subsidies and Gov't control over Water - Air

would be a far more worthy use of ones time.

There is no "get back" while there is still Corporatism.

Channel your anger into Community-Economics
---Get Active not Re-Active
---Direct Action over Indirect Reaction

911-Truth is Systemic Re-Action
---Reaction can ignore Direct Action all day long
---Focus is on the past
---Justice involves Corporatist Court Systems??

We don't want "regime change" (one regime for another)

We want individualism (or as close to it as we can get)

"We want individualism"

That made me lol.

What's funny??

Ohhhhh, you don't think there's a "we" in individualism, huh?

Well the Wii is just more than one "I" standing together; hell that happens on the bus everyday, smile.

"I-and-I want individualism"

The Wii of Individualism



...Abraham's personal attack is not appropriate, all he is suggesting is that you read something.

Self inflicted ignorance is not a path to any kind of enlightenment. No doubt it is blissful though.

Not buying a book

Not going to buy a book to read about all the stuff I have read or had repeated to me by truthers before. If you have a free reference that covers the same ground I would be happy to read it.

Too bad.

You are stuck in group-think and are not able to discern facts for yourself. There are no 'truthers'. You are using this term to distance yourself from information - not crazy people.

I didn't expect you to buy the book - I was simply replying to your simplified rejection. You haven't read the book - yet you somehow know the value of it's content. I know it's rude of me to say this but...
You. Are. Useless.

Invest in a book that contradicts your established world view - it won't make you dumber.

truth liberate

Also I would like to point

Also I would like to point out that group think would apply to the truthers on this board. I am standing lone (or close to) in this thread and on this site with my take of it. You are in the majority and thus the group. The fact that just asking questions would raise the ire of people here to the level of calling other people useless expresses my major point. Most truthers, or whatever you would like to call yourself, don't debate the facts but attack the people.

If you are so well versed then please lay out your major points that support your argument and allow me to debate them. Don't hide behind someone elses work and claim those that don't want to buy it are some how less then worthy to debate facts.

Also I know the value of the content because I have read all the 9/11 stuff over and over again. There is a bunch of sources out there that don't enrich someone that is exploiting the fears and concerns of good Americans.

Lastly I would offer that it is your world view that is at risk of being contradicted. You come here not answering any of my other thread, only focusing on one in which I don't wish to spend my money, and use it to try and discredit my stance without actually ever risking your world view. I only ask for information to support your cause yet it seems I only get vague responses and abandoned threads when the questions get to hard.

I ask you grow some balls and stand behind your convictions... Defend your own views and don't shield yourself behind someone elses work.


Did I trigger this manic rage? You're desperately projecting tons of stuff on me here right out of the blue. If you post simple notions, you'll get simple answers - you just can't handle being contradicted.

truth liberate

Not at all.

I am actually enjoying myself a lot right now. What you say or think means little to me because your opinions are just that... opinions. I am still waiting for you to bring some facts though, which seems to be the normal state of affairs when dealing with the 9/11 truth community.


The only opinions I've expressed in this thread were about you personally. You are obviously very sensitive and so you divert the discussion onward to blind rage without substance.

I've never pledged to bring you any facts. I just responded to your original post fair and square and you couldn't handle it. Perhaps I was a bit rude but my follow-up criticism of you were directed to where it belonged.

I'm not affiliated with the 9/11 truth community.

truth liberate

As I said.

I will be happy to read anything but I refuse to spend good money on stuff that I have heard to read before on the web. I will read anything provided, and if you think it is just moving I will be happy to provide you a mail address and you send order the book for me.

don't read

watch http://vimeo.com/4777716

This is a factual presentation. Uses all the government supplied evidence and even eyewitness testimony. Watch and decide.

Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio

You won't read it because it

You won't read it because it destroys your position entirely.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

Way to glob on.

You abandon the thread you started with me below because you lack the ability to properly debate only to try and discredit me here. If you actually read things without your truther glasses on (read half the post and rant without any factual basis) I said if the informaiton was provided via a free channel I would be happy to read it. If you like to enlighten me you could always order the book for me.

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In the spirit of keeping things germaine,

please provide a link where the video in question is rebutted. I would like to hear the other side.

Undo what Wilson did

Not my job

Aside from what many think it is not the job of people who don't buy the 'government did it' theory to disprove it. You act as if putting a video up on YouTube makes it fact until disproved. I invite you to offer more then the accounts of people who were there as fact (Eye Witnesses are the worst evidence one can find).

My intent is not to shutdown any exploration into 9/11; I just expeect any investigation to be done properly regardless of it being private or public.

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That's such an inane reply, I wonder if you've even watched

the video.
First, you assume there are only two positions; the government did it or the government didn't do it. That in itself is not evidence of someone seeking truth, as there is obviously the larger group who acknowledge there are simply too many questions to accept the official version. I think Mr Lawyer more accurately fits into that group (as do I FYI).
Second, how could I seem to be saying the video is fact until disproved? Mr. Lawyer is primarily calling for a forensic investigation which more closely follows standard procedure than what has been conducted. He also claims evidence was destroyed prior to an investigation, not to mention much evidence (including but not limited to first-hand accounts, a legitimate part of any investigation) was ignored by the investigating commission.
Then you go on to say you just want a proper investigation. Me too! It seems you agree with Mr Lawyer.
But the question remains. If there is an opposing view to Mr. Lawyers, I'd like to see it. I couldn't find it on the site YOU referenced.

Undo what Wilson did