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Alex Jones TV: Ron Paul on CIA & Federal Reserve's Drug Running Business
Submitted by MMJ Ministry on Thu, 03/04/2010 - 18:40
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If that is what you consider the truth thats your opinion
not fact, just as I have reasons for having a different opinion, and I do have real reasons for not thinking that Alex Jones is an infiltrator. Is he negative yes, can he be a distraction yes sometimes, but does he speak the truth on real issues expose lies and corruption and support true patriot candidates the answer is also yes. I'm sorry if I dont want to in fight, im sorry if I dont wanna bash Ron Paul and claim he stole campaign money and endorses neo cons because I dont think is true he has also proven himself to me. Medina did too then as I said she got in over her head and did whatever she could to be excepted of course it was too late. Im over this topic though...
The CIA and drugs
This goes back a long way - to the Vietnam conflict, at least. If you ever saw the movie 'Air America' it was based on fact; the CIA was trafficking vast amounts of heroin back then in an area known as the Golden Triangle of Thailand. To this day, it has never stopped.
When George Bush, Sr., was vice president, Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, and the whole Iran/Contra mess was, again, financed by drugs. This time it was cocaine. (The US never had much of a cocaine problem until the 1980s, when it began to flood in). Oliver North was part of this deal also. Back then, his name was John Cathy, and he arranged for U.S. military airplanes to ferry drug shipments - much to the outrage of the CID officers. Barry Seal was one of the pilots and had much to say. Clinton arranged use of an airfield, along with a huge retrofit facility, in the town of Nella, in western Arkansas. Small planes would be used to fly to Nicaragua with arms, which they would drop from the air. Then the planes would land, and fill up with cocaine for the return leg. John Hull's ranch was allegedly used for loading the drugs. Hull denies it.
Shortly after this time Evergreen Airlines, fire-fighting aircraft of the National Forest Service, was also being used to ferry drugs, much to the bafflement and outrage of the pilots. In two cases there were forest fires, but the tankers were out of the country (C-130s). Much of this information was known to Col. John Sabow, who was going to go public with it. But he 'committed suicide' before he could bring the facts to light.
This is all just the tip of the iceberg. The amount of drug smuggling that continues (including Afghanistan) is designed to 'eliminate' undesirables while making vast sums of money for off-the-shelf black ops.
I take issue with Dr. Paul when he says that the members of Congress do not know about this. Many of them know plenty, but are wisely keeping their mouths shut. After all, they want to keep their jobs and their lives.
If the FED is involved, I would not be surprised. The FED and the CFR have called the shots for the U.S. government for a very long time; and both are certainly in collusion with the Committee of 300, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, The Tavistock Institute and (probably) more recently, The Bilderberg Society. Obama and his wife (along with 3,000 other influential Americans) have long been CFR members. Its agenda has been a one-world government, and it is moving forward. The current financial crisis (and the devaluation of the dollar) has been orchestrated in order to bring about the NAU and the Amero as our new currency. So, even if the U.S.A. is broke and in astronomical debt, drugs are still paying for goods and services (though, of course, not for us).
Kevin ODell the plain truth
Kevin ODell the plain truth is Alex Jones sold out and joined Glenn Beck in attacking Medina. They deliberately put her in a no-win situation. They sandwiched her between two opposing views knowing full well anything she said could be taken out of context to make her look bad.
You wrote "She just couldn't beat em' so she joined em' selling out everyone else who helped her along the way including Alex Jones". My answer to that ridiculous statement is "Horse shit".
IMHO, Alex Jones, Beck, Hannity, and all of the other propagandist are bought and paid for by the CFR puppet masters. Some are delusional but none of them are naive.
The negativity on this site really bums me out...
I don't think anyone can say that they agree with Alex Jones 100%, but if you can sit there and deny the guys passion for exposing the truth and propping up legit candidates than you obviously never listen to his show. He is on everyday covering subjects that most people wouldn't dare touch. He has never had anything but positive things to say about Ron Paul(for years and way before 2007), NEVER! He had Medina on his show more times than I could count and was always plugging her and promoting her campaign. That is until she got in over her head and decided to play the politician. I heard her say that she was for an new investigation of 9/11 and imply that she was for 9/11 truth. Not only did she back track on that statement but she went on to agree that "truthers" were despicable. She just couldn't beat em' so she joined em' selling out everyone else who helped her along the way including Alex Jones. I can't say that I blame her for what she did, but she never should've ran for govenor in the first place and shoud've ran for an office that she actually had a chance win like a state senate seat. There was no way she was beating bilderberg backed Perry. I'm glad she had the courage to run but she should've also had the courage and confidence to stand up to the real "snakes in the grass" like Glenn Beck, who has proven himself time and time again to be a phony. Ron Paul is the person who woke me up, but after the campaign not very many sites and people kept up with the patriot and truth movements like Alex Jones did. I'm not saying you have to love the guy but I beleive credit should be given where it is due. Where was the mainstream media back before the 2008 campaign for Dr. Paul? Nowhere but Alex Jones sure was doing interveiws on his little radio show back then. You people need to quit with the in fighting and stop crying about Medina. You sound like the same people crying when Ron Paul didn't win in 08' and who wanted the money back that they gave to the campaign and saying that he somehow scammed them. It really is sickening, all of the in fighting going on. Ron Paul, Alex Jones and Debra Medina have all proven themselves to be true patriots, and they all show it in different ways, none of them are perfect(well Ron is pretty close because of his consistency), but we should give all 3 of them credit and ask what we can do to help in this movement. All of you trashing Alex Jones haven't done 1% of what he's done through his show and his documentaries, and if you don't agree with how he does it than do your own thing and stop crying!
i had plenty of arguments with posters like you
and it has turned out 100% of the time after many back and forth conversations that those people and i actually agreed on 911 issues: we agreed that 911 had a lot of questions, but that it is also reckless to jump to any conclusion with the lack of evidence.
with the military industrial complex so privatized, it is difficult to know even where "inside" stops and "outside" begins, yet instead of simply keeping an inquisitive mind and ask questions and not jump to rash conclusions like many of the "truther leaders" have, some willingly accept a vague phrase like "blah blah blah" is an inside job. how someone even bothers to defend the title "truthers" is totally beyond me if one considers how that many crazy people simply jump in front of the 911 question parade and pretend to lead the movement while giving out all kinds of crazy theories like "the videos were all cg, no planes ever hit the building" while in the same breath use the same videos they say are fake as evidence for building 7..
they all call themselves "truthers".. but how anyone else is willing to use and share that "truther" label besides those crazy people is just beyond me. and to think people stupid enough to wear the tarnished title on their sleeves are inside a vital political effort like the liberty movement right here, right now? the thought just makes me shudder. being attacked on 911 conspiracy is different from being unpopular because of a non-interventionist stance, or other issues derived from the liberty-preserving constitution, because there ARE some, and maybe lots, of crazy people who label themselves as truthers-- some of whom don't even support ron paul because they consider him some kind of "government plant"
if that overly abused "truther" label is under attack and somehow you feel some kind of attachment and feel equally offended, maybe you're just as stupid. these ron paul forums are more than socializing platforms; it is essentially a communicating platforms for people more than mere passive citizen supporters and most of the time a communication platform for activists.. you clearly don't understand the gravity of the situation like how medina's poll virtually stopped going up when she got caught in the controversy because publicly identified crazy figures like alex jones ever approached her campaign.. and to compare people who campaigned for her (you don't even fucking live in her state for christ sake) and her constituents who have much stake in this who correctly identified the problem and pointed it out to something as trivial as "babies crying" is just utterly retarded on your behalf.. your ability to misidentify public sentiment and discard legitimate issues is almost on par with that of the democrats currently in power.
yet EVEN SOMEONE LIKE YOU correctly identifies alex jones as not being right 100% of the time .. you can't adopt a group label with someone who isn't right 100% of the time (i do have a case for ron paul being 100% right however), not to mention the correct stats for AJ is more like 10% added with a bunch of other fringe nuts who are like -10% who also call themselves truthers.. that is why collectivism and labeling ALWAYS FAILS and individual is the only unit that works, yet the fucking retards keep willingly label themselves as truthers. oh ya and many 911 truthers don't even support ron paul, but you feel offended when they get called out for what they care. what a genius.
and to reiterate the point about crazy people in front of the 911 parade--i don't criticize those who merely have questions but only those stupid enough to adopt a group identity and share the label "truthers" with the few nut leaders--in politics you need to have evidence for everything you say and do, you can't sprout random bigoted comments or espouse random opinions that are not supported by extensive research and backed up undoubtedly by lots of evidence.. if you don't have the will or discipline for that perhaps it is best for you to remain a passive citizen supporters and not even get involved because you're actually a liability. and for some subpar supporter like you to criticize liberty activists who actually have their heads in the right place and compare their legitimate comments to trivial complaints, well i don't discriminate on race but i will discriminate on role and contribution--you're just way out of place as an unimportant armchair critic, and not to mention--wrong.
jt, did you actually read Kevin's post?
It doesn't look like it qualifies as a springboard for what you wrote here.
why would you argue with me?
The term "truther" is a negative(and stupid) term just like "conspiracy theorist", that tools like Glenn Beck use to dismiss a group of people. I do not claim to be a "truther", I do not claim to know what happend on 9/11, and I do not go around saying "blah blah blah was an inside job", even though I do beleive there is some evidence that points to that theory(mainly the able danger stand down operation). My post had nothing to do with 9/11 in fact yet you spend 3 paragraphs on it. The people whom I referring to as cry babies are the ones who blame Alex Jones for Medina's downfall when her numbers were going up during her interveiws with him and stopped going up after the Glenn Beck incident. Medina sure didn't dismiss Alex Jones as crazy or despicable when he was giving her all the air time she wanted and constantly plugging her campaign. "In politics you have to have evidence for everything you say" is that right? Well Ron Paul did have evidence for many of his claims but more recently his claims to Bernake and it was concluded that he was bizarre. Oh of course we saw his rebutle later on but noone else did, and it was not covered on FOX that he in fact was no bizzare and wrong. Why should I have to play by their rules? You know why I like the term "9/11 was an inside job" and "There has been a CIA coup in America"? Because it turns heads and gets attention, and potentially wakes people up. We will not win by their rules, the only way I beleive we win is by growing our numbers to over power them. They still hold the status quo, and that is obvious. Please do not argue with me, I'm not here to argue, I was here to point out facts. Facts that demonizing Alex Jones is a distraction and not fair, facts that Medina made her bed and is it is easier for some of you to blame someone else, facts that we need to stop arguing and fighting with each other because we all have a common goal of freedom, liberty and independence! So if you don't like someone for the way they do their thing fine THEN DO YOUR OWN THING AND STOP HATING!!! I hate Glenn Beck, he has called Ron Paul and his supporters all sorts of names over the years and stabbed him in the back many many times, but for me to come on here and say "Ron Paul should not go on Glenn Becks show anymore"(as many of you did about Alex Jones) would be ignorrant because he gets so much exposure doing all these interviews and his message gets out.
so then
smarten up and realize when mainstream media like gb or others attack 911 truthers, they're attacking the exact same sub group you don't support. they don't know there are others who have questions but don't espouse random theories, but to them that's too small a minority to bother adding another sentence to clarify when they attack the truther groups at large.
and when someone like medina who doesn't know anything about 911 theories nor anything about the different sub groups inside 911 groups who support different levels of theories responds to a general question with a general answer, don't get ticked off. that's just stupid when you know it only refers to you when you willingly become one of them. the issue lies with some crazy 30% inside the truther group and the rest 70% who get ticked off and feel sympathetic when they get attacked, while outsiders can't differentiate and have no interest in doing so to the 30% and 70%, and you get bunched together. it's you the smart portion that needs to think clear and just realize "as long as she's not calling my name, she's not attacking me". or you'll just keep getting angry.
it's also interesting it's you who choose to get emotional when those in the movement rightly call out those minority of truthers who call things out with insufficient evidence backing as distractions, you voluntarily think you and others are getting attacked (which is all your fantasy), and then you call for people not attacking each other inside the movement.. the truth is only AJ is being attacked here and quite rightly so because he is too public a figure for espousing random theories, and indeed he is a distraction. choosing to defend him is your business, and playing a victim doesn't mean people are attacking each other in the movement.. it's more like you're willingly becoming the source of disturbance.
and ya my suggestion still stands; until you are able to disassociate yourself emotionally from those rest in the 911 group, maybe you shouldn't be in politics.
The fact is, winning the
The fact is, winning the Governor's race should not rest on whether you believe in the government being involved in 9/11 or not. The question is not relevant to governing the State of Texas. As a Constitutionalist I believe in transparency and free speech. Questions should be asked and answered. Whether we believe the answers or not is another story.
To condemn someone, or group, because they seek answers is dangerous. We have experienced enough false flag incidents to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that governments occasionally, break the law for what they deem the greater good. For example, Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus and threatened to throw the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court in prison during the Civil War. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/young-andrew7.html. Also, Dick Chaney authorized (possibly ordered) torture as Vice President of the United States. It is my understanding that torture is against the law. That begs the question: Since authorizing torture by our government was not common knowledge by the general public and our government officials are not above the law, should government have suppressed questions? You can see where this is going .....
Dr. Paul handing out reading assignments again...
Ron is so awesome... all he has to do is speak the truth by publicly confronting these unprepared criminals, to which they are forced to cite ignorance as a response. (as Ron stated here that it reminded him of the Rudy book list).
They just aren't ready to deal with such serious problems in public like that so they are forced to resort to attacking his credibility, using words like "that was just an extraordinary statement" or "these allegations are bizarre"... this is what ron is trying to do - put them in a situation where they have already acknowledged his argument and taken a position. At this point, all he has to do is point to a few books or ap articles and suddenly Rudy and Ben are scrubbing pie off their grill.
It is moments like these that gets Ron Paul REAL converts because he is being somewhat confrontational (people like that) and proving the impregnability of his positions.
I tell ya, about 3-4 months ago i was under the impression that Ron would soon be forgotten by the public, but now I cant see how he won't be president in 12, considering all the momentum that he now has... you can't ignore the truth right in front of your face.
"The War Prayer - Mark Twain"
This is an attempt to shore up... but beware...
This is an attempt to shore up an exposed image in the eyes of true patriots, after his participation in the demise of a truer patriot Texas has seen in many decades... Debra Medina!
Beware of those who, after the dirty deed, use the oil of butter again to cloud the memory, and in so doing, prepare for the next "outing", the next victim, the next damage to be inflicted, possibly even on Ron Paul himself, should he really become a threat to the establishment, to the nomination for 2012!!
Beware! There were clips aplenty in this interview, which, when "readjusted" and taken out of context, could create another "magazine" article type attack, or "fanatic" attack, which we saw used so effectively in 2008. The electorate, as we have just seen in Texas, is not yet in enough pain to awaken in mass. They are still, in the majority, lemmings, dazed, and warming up oh so slowly, in the "frog's pot"!
Prepare your defense as a good offense, should AJ try this tactic on RP sometime in the future. His track record should have raised eyebrows and set off bells already with this interview.
Jone's references to "drugs", such as in the title, were far more suggestive and definitive than Paul's references. Dr. Paul wisely referred mainly to the need to change congress, who doesn't have a clue to the secret dealings, of which he himself is also in the dark mostly.... which is why he could not and would not have names or specifics, which AJ kept probing for.
Rather Paul always brings the subject back to the lack of wisdom and knowledge in congress; to the need for the people to replace and reform government.
Maybe Alex Was Set Up
Is it possible that somebody fed AJ incorrect information re Medina and he was used?
IMissLiberty
Ron Paul and Alex Jones
It is always good to hear Ron Paul. I do understand that he will speak to anyone who will listen to his message. I want to say that I do think Alex Jones is a bit unstable. He has some good points but by and large I think he exaggerates and dramatizes. I think Ron Paul should be careful as I think Alex Jones will use him in a way that I don't think will be helpful to him or Liberty.
Also remember that Alex Jones can turn on someone if his mood changes. As I say I think he is a bit unstable.
PR
No More Alex Jones
I don't care who Alex Jones is promoting. He is only going to drag down Ron Paul. I will not listen to anything promoted by Alex Jones. He is a traitor to the Freedom movement by stabbing Debra Medina in the back.
I want nothing more to do with an ego maniac like Alex Jones.
I will support Ron Paul until the day I die but Alex Jones is nothing but worm food to me.
It's all about money and me to Alex Jones.
All of you please read my response above...
you all sound like little cry babies. It was Medina who was doing the back stabbing, I dont live in Texas so I did nothing to really support but I even felt like I was stabbed in the back. She said one thing on AJ then agreed that I was despicable. Imagine how Alex felt, when he promoted her and her campaign on his show EVERY DAY then she pretty much called him despicable and waffled on her previous comments. I still like Medina, i'm still glad she ran I dont think winning is everything.
I agree
Good. Get rid of the guy, he is a drag on Ron.
Throwing the baby out with the bathwater
It was great to hear Ron Paul talking here. Who cares what the interviewer's problems are.
To me, it is CRITICAL that America wakes up to the fact that we are in Afghanistan for the drugs. The Fed's involvement, Wall Street's reliance on illicit drug profits...all of it needs to be exposed.
Peter Dale Scott on drugs, 9-11, war
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=...
CIA, Drugs, Wall Street & 9-11
http://www.archive.org/details/MichaelC.RuppertIntroduction
What did Alex say about Medina?
I didn't hear about this. Please tell.
I did visit Prisonplant and found this:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/open-letter-to-debra-medina.html
Is this what you're talking about, where Medina called the 911 movement "despicable"?
That's sad to see.
But one thing I do NOT agree with is how her "former supporters" can turn on somebody that they agree with 99.9% on.
This is behavior of juveniles. They don't understand the basic logic of losing a battle, to win a war.
If patriots can't support another candidate with whom they agree on 99% of the issues, and there is just pretty much pure evil in the other candidates, then this movement has serious issues.
In fact, I'm reminded of the rash attacks on the C4L by this very site and other prominent Liberty candidates, for C4L giving a hefty contribution to candidate in Colorado. To this site's credit, there was remorse shown. And some maturing happened.
If I'm the Establishment, I know an easy blueprint for dividing the Liberty movement. And the above 2 example show how to do so.
There needs to be anger at evil, yes. But there needs to be some patience and tolerance of differences in champions of Liberty.
Wouldn't it be great if RP could be elected president if he happened to call the 911 movement despicable, in a weak moment on live radio or TV. Let's learn to forgive.
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford
I believe the following is
I believe the following is what Alex Jones was referring to. IMHO, her response was taken out of context and Alex Jones over reacted:
Debra Medina issued a statement Feb. 11 on her website regarding the Beck interview. She stated in part, "I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.... The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered ..."
Questioned by Dallas talk show host Mark Davis last week, Medina had stronger and more derisive views of 9/11 truthers, agreeing with the host that anyone who dare would believe that the U.S. government was involved in the 2001 attack is "despicable'. Partial transcript:
Davis: "...it would have been over in a day, if after the Beck thing, you'd have said boy, I'm sorry, I messed up. I should've identified this 9/11 truther movement as the despicable paranoid cult that they are, what a horrible hateful belief to have in your head that 9/11 was an inside job. Why didnt you do that?
Medina: "Yeah I um, I agree with ya Mark, I laughed it off whenever he said I was a truther cause I thought it was so absurd and i should have just said NO, absolutely I'm not a truther. I think it's abundantly clear I'm not a truther; um ya know those things happen to us and we pick up say should've done that better, move on, and that's what we've done."
Also, see the following for the rest of the story: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/126737
It's abundantly clear she
It's abundantly clear she called her supporters who she flip-flopped on despicable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLHGYccaZHw&feature=sub
Wasn't it Reagan...
...who said "...if you agree with someone 80% of the time, he's your friend, not your enemy.." ?
Of course, by that calculus, Ron Paul should be on the top of EVERY Republican's Hit Parade!
I agree. Alex Jones is a
I agree. Alex Jones is a snake in the grass. Ron has to be vary cautious when dealing with this guy because Alex will turn on him if the price is right. My question is: What did Alex Jones get in return for attacking Medina?
Agreed, he`s on my list with scumBeck,hannity,O`reilly , etc.
!
"Since 1789 the only government on Earth that has the power to crush the American people`s liberties across the board is the government of the United States"
Robert Higgs
Good interview.
bump
The final statements
by Alex Jones are spot on.
Ron Paul is amazing, seriously. I'd really have to think long and hard to find something about him that's not to like. He has probably worked harder for our cause than anybody else, and that's not to say there aren't others that work hard for liberty.
This guy is old, but he doesn't seem old at all, he doesn't brag with his wisdom, he is personified wisdom. Politicians in either party probably just don't get this, because for them Ron Paul is just someone not playing their game, and not following the established rules and paths, a threat to their authority in his very being.
But he continues to set brushfires in people's mind, of which the "charismatic" so called leaders can only dream. Politicians, Obamas, Clintons, Bushs come and go, get selected and elected, they have their years of power and influence, while continuing to abide by the rules of a game, not really changing the game itsself ever, although they all claim to be that change, which is one of the rules of this game.
The Ron Paul kind of dedication and convictions is not only real change to this whole game, it's set out to destroy the game alltogether. This is his and our revolution against the game masters, and this brushfire is one that you've probably not seen in decades, it will not stop before the game has been changed, which has not happened in at least a century and it's about time.
If Ron Paul suddenly disappeared, the fire wouldn't become the slightest bit less dangerous to the game. That's because Ron and others campaigning for liberty for decades have given us plenty of ammunition, this is not a movement of hippies or an angry mob, this is a movement of man and woman, who are intellectually and morally armed to the teeth. Many are destined to become future leaders, and many are already leaders right now. Ron, Mises, Hayek and many many more have empowered us to win all fights, because we have sound theories of economics, money and how a free society can work, and they have not. I have real hope that the fall of the empire is really the rise of the republic.
Napolitano: "We need Ron Paul now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3JNRTVI0Q
To Freiheit:
5-Star commentary! Worthy of publication in major newspapers.
One of the things I love about this site is the comments from folks like you. There are great quotes, inspirational personal stories and testimonies, great freedom fighters who bare their soul, and flame the brushfires of freedom in our hearts.
Thank you Michael, for this site, and thank all you wonderful, intelligent, educated, inspiring patriots.
It's a privilege to have association with you all.
May God bless America that she will continue to awaken before it's too late, but as has been prophesied, the tree of liberty may have to be watered with the blood of patriots.
It is that spirit which RP carries with him, as does Medina, as do the patriots who love Liberty and our Constitution, more than they love a peaceful co-existence with federal tyranny and even more than their own lives.
That power of sacrifice is what is felt at this site.
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford
Glad you like it
Many on this site have helped to cure my apathy, so the least I can do is try to do the same for others.
Napolitano: "We need Ron Paul now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3JNRTVI0Q
Hear, Hear!
Hear, Hear!
Well said and
very true.
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