The comments to this will determine whether My Friends and I stay or not!
I have a point to make,If we care about the freedom and future of this country we have to start with the fact that we are all looking for the same thing and need to agree on what this same thing is.
Is it what "I" want for me now,or is it what "We" want for the future of this country?At some point we have to decide, is what we are doing for "I" or is it for "Us" and our future generations including our grand children and their grand children.
Those of you that say "I" are being as selfish and greedy as the folks we hate.Those of you that say "us" are on the right track because it is the right track for the future of our country.
Now I would like to use an analogy from baseball,As far as Candidates go,You are not lying if you say nothing,We have the freedom to be silent on certain issues no matter how we feel.
So we need to Bunt,even though we know we could "possibly" knock it out of the park,In the winning game it is better to "load" the bases with good runners before we put in the heavy hitter to send them all home.
I would like to request that we get a new signal base for the third base coach,so they cannot "read" us!I truly believe this needs to be done for the future of our country.
Thank you for your time ATruepatriot.
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"It is better to get there slow than to not get there fast"
ATruepatriot.
Update:Thank you all for your terrific replies.





















Censorship
I have noticed some censorship on this site. Does not make me happy I can say that. What happened to free speech. I may not believe in what your say but I will defend with my life your right to say it. ..
Wood
Some of it
has been positive. The threads that tended to pit believers and atheists against each other were counterproductive and destructive.
celtic white witch or something
I feel this fred has a real potential to become the next Celtic Magic Witch (or whatever that was)
For heavens sake I hope not!
Besides Fedor is not here or it very possibly could be!
It was I think ? "I am thinking of becoming a Celtic Witch" And Fedor hit it every morning.
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right
and it went on and on
I just had the feeling the topic has that potential.
In the Celtic Witch it was religion. It was going for a while before Fedor joined it, not?
Feel an eternal discussion coming up LOL!
It's 'I' Not 'We'
however 'we' have a common interest: getting government out of our lives to the greatest extent possible.
My goal is to systematically take away the power of the government to control me or my property, as long as I infringe on no other man's life or property. How about you? It involves laws now, but sooner or later, it's going to involve guns. I only care whether you're coming along or not to the extent you're refusal to do so impedes my progress.
When we're together in a foxhole battling government shock troops I'm there for my own self-interest; however I know it's a team game - I have good reason to believe you're there not for some sacrificial reason but for reasons entirely of your own, and that's why we're on the same team - common defense our own rational selfish interests and our right to exercise them.
If you're there because of some sense of the 'collective', duty to your 'brother', for the sake of others - in other words, some altruistic non-reason, forget it, I'm moving on to the next foxhole. You should only be willing to defend my life if by doing so you defend your own, either directly or indirectly. That's the only type of soldier in whose hands I am willing to place my life.
Eye think Oui need to
Eye think Oui need to regroup.
Take two steps back.
Look at the Forest
Not your favorite tree.
"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k
O.K great focus
Did you read the whole thread?
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It's not finished
I'll read it later.
These things take a while to flesh out.
Seems like we're playing a "patriot game".
So I want to hear from as many as possible.
"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k
c ya I stay around here
c ya
I stay around here because I want to, not because of what other people do or don't do to make me feel comfortable, supported, or vindicated. Get over yourself with all the "I" and "we" business. True freedom is the ability to live by the code of "rational self interest" with usually coincides with other people's "rational self interest" and results in a free and open society fueled by voluntary interactions which benefit each person involved. Anyone who abdicates the "self" for the "greater good" is a communist. This country was founded upon the preservation of our inalienable INDIVIDUAL rights. Anyone with healthy rational self intrest will see the benefit of working together with other freedom minded people to advance the cause of liberty.
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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.
And yet Ron Paul's very
And yet Ron Paul's very strategy is to bring up issues where he and others share a "common ground" like hmm...
Transparency! (You may have heard of HR 1207)
Moderators-Thank you for being patient with me.
Love,ATruepatriot.
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ooooh dont get me started on ultimatums...
lmao- any decision based on one circumstance makes you a hot head. You'll only ever be happy when you have your own tightly controlled website : )
With respect please take the time to read.
Very carefully.
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I'm with you part way-
I truly believe we should make our country a better place for our children but not our children's children as I don't think children should be having sex.
Gene thank you!
This is not about us now,This is,as our founding fathers said,About the future of this country after we are long gone.
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By All Means Leave And Take Your Friends With You...
the interchange I had with you earlier told me everything I needed to know about you...
http://www.dailypaul.com/152976/diebold-vs-paper-ballots
http://www.ncel.w4sp.com/
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
http://www.votefraud.org/
http://www.hulu.com/hacking-democracy
Thomas with respect?
What interchange?not me dude, I have shown you nothing but respect since I have joined,You are one of the few with common sense.Please explain?
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I am not exactly sure what
I am not exactly sure what you are trying to say. If people think we are actually gonna out smart, out fund, and out maneuver the enemy then these people are delusional. What we are trying to do is out in the open and is transparent to friend and foe. The only thing going for us is truth, honesty and a truly dedicated minority. These are our strengths, we should build on this, and eventually we will succeed. But then what is success? We first need to collectively decide on our goal. For me it is to awaken one person at a time.
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TexanInSweden
You said the Magic words,"We first need to collectively decide on our goals" and this is what I have been trying to convey for several months now.
Then you say"To awaken one person at a time"Now here is the clincher,I thought that when I joined the DP that these very intelligent people were "Awake" and so far they have only showed enough effort to hit the "snooze" button and go back to sleep.Are we still waiting for them to wake up before we decide on goals?
With respect,What do you think?
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Magic words?
More like tragic words.
I nearly gagged through that entire sentence, blehhh.
Am I on democratic underground?
How about this. We're all capable of making our own decisions on what goals we individually will support and what actions we individually will take. If our efforts and ideas happen to meet up, fantastic. It will weave a beautiful unstoppable chaotic order. Keep your conformist collective BS.
This is exactly why
the libertarian party has ? How many Reps? Facts in our faces folks,And if we ever want to fix it .......Never mind I have no idea what I was thinking,I will stand free by Myself for Myself Forever by Myself again for Myself and if you didn't get it yet it is for Myself!
Good for Me! I feel better now and Free.
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Doing the right thing
If you sincerely do the right thing for "I" then the right thing will be done for "US".
Naton
I thought we did agree
At least on the big picture. The other little disagreements are all part of being in a free society.
Am I missing your point or are you missing the point?
Of course we are not going to agree fully on everything. If you expect that you have nowhere to go.
That is unless you can find somplace that want you to be their dictator.
Good luck with your decision.
I pretty much agree with Ron Paul on everything, but I may even interpret that a little differently than you do. The other stuff is just discussion. We can all possibly learn from each other or learn that we don't have to see everything the same way and deal with it. Sometimes you don't have to win and there is no need to fight. Nothing wrong with a good debate though.~Peace
Chonk123
There is wisdom in your words,"The big picture" My question here is "Do we have one?".
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I am not sure the we or I matter
anymore things are moving rather quickly and the most I hope for are the candidates get out there and educate as many people as possible before the whole darn thing caves in. Just my two cents.
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Quilting?Can I raise two more?
You are right!And we need to help if we can as a Whole or it will never work.
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ATrue - You're great -
I think you might need some "wu wei" - non-effort - chill time. Lean on your wisdom. I, too, have some complex impressions and emotions after the Medina results. I am shocked, for one, that in a situation so dire the majority of people are so... what's the word?... oblivious. I was at the mall today watching people line up around half the perimeter of a store to buy luxury handbags. That is a good indication of the mentality of the nation. It's mind-boggling. In my opinion, the fault is there. I honestly don't think the "truther" scandal brought Medina down. IMHO it is the nature of the general populace which is most disappointing.
Lao Tzua
Of all people,I have the most humble respect for you and am bowing as I say this,I thank you for the Respect you have shown me,And at this point I please ask for the understanding that I am right now "He who conquers himself is mighty"And am having no problem with this,What I am attempting is to plead to the masses that we could do wonders as a Whole rather than nothing as a Self.Again I Bow with respect.And Thank you.
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The pleasure is mine.
I hear your concerns. Here's a little story to brighten your mood - it brightened mine.... I was driving around a new development and what did I see in somebody's driveway? A big shiny van with a GIANT "Ron Paul - Hope for America" sign on the back. Today, also, we saw a Ron Paul sticker on a car in traffic. It's like a little miracle when it happens. I feel like knocking on their windows and saying - YOU, my friend, are a miracle! What a good feeling.