The Constitution Does Not Protect Our Property

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The U.S. Constitution is widely believed to have been written to limit the powers of the federal government and protect the rights of its citizens. Inexplicably, this belief is held even by those who acknowledge that the constitutional convention was called for the express purpose of expanding the powers of the federal government, supposedly because the government under the Articles of Confederation was too weak. That this was the purpose of the convention is not a disputed fact. Nevertheless, most people who care at all about the Constitution continue to believe and promote the “Constitution as protector of rights” myth.

To the extent that the Constitution enumerates certain powers for the federal government, with all other powers assumed to be excluded, it does set some limits on government. When one includes the first ten amendments of the Constitution, it also protects certain rights. Indeed, the ninth amendment makes the very important point that the specific protections of certain rights does not in any way deny the existence of others, while the tenth amendment makes explicit the implied limitation to enumerated powers in the Constitution itself. At first glance, the so-called “Bill of Rights” seems to confine government power within an airtight bottle, rendering it incapable of becoming a violator of rights instead of protector of them.

However, this theory does not hold up well under closer examination. To begin with, the Constitution itself does not protect a single right other than habeas corpus, and that comes with a built-in exception. What the Constitution does do is grant powers, and not just to a representative body, as the Articles of Confederation did, but to three separate branches. That leaves it up to the Bill of Rights to serve the purpose of protecting our rights. Generally, those ten amendments protect our rights under extraordinary circumstances, but not under ordinary circumstances. More specifically, the Bill of Rights provides protections for the individual during situations of direct conflict with the federal government, such as when one is accused or convicted of a crime, when one is sued, on the occasion of troops being stationed in residential areas, or when one speaks out against the government or petitions it for redress of grievances.

Make no mistake, these protections are vital and have provided protections for the people against government abuse of power many times in U.S. history. However, they have proven ineffective against the slow, deliberate growth of government power under ordinary circumstances, when the specific conditions described in those amendments do not exist. This is primarily due to the absence of protection, either in the Constitution or in any subsequent amendment, of the most important right of all: property.

By “property,” I do not mean exclusively or even primarily land ownership, although land ownership is one form of property. By “property,” I mean all that an individual rightfully owns, including his mind, body, labor, and the fruits of his labor. It is specifically the right to the fruits of one’s labor that the Constitution fails entirely to protect. In fact, it makes no attempt to do so whatsoever.

In the Constitution itself, the word “property” appears only once, and that is in reference to property owned by the federal government (an inauspicious start). Nowhere does it make any mention of property owned by the citizens.

The document does grant the federal government the power to tax “to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and the general welfare of the United States.” This is a strikingly unlimited scope for which the federal government may tax its citizens. Arguments that taxes may only be collected to underwrite the subsequently enumerated powers have been struck down. Sadly, those decisions have probably been correct. While the power of the Congress to pass laws is explicitly limited to those “necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers,” no such language binds the power to tax. The fact that the explicit limitation exists for lawmaking (which Congress ignores anyway) but not for taxation lends further weight to the argument that the Constitution grants Congress unlimited power to tax its citizens.

One can certainly make the argument that in 1789, the term “general welfare” would have been interpreted much differently than it is today. Indeed, one might assume that the term “general welfare” meant the general protection of each individual’s rights. Perhaps that is what many of the founders believed at the convention. However, it is clear that Alexander Hamilton and his Federalists, the driving force behind calling the convention, had far different ideas about what the term “general welfare” meant. Remember that for Hamilton, the purpose of government was not the protection of rights, but the realization of “national greatness.” This could only be achieved at the expense of individual rights, primarily property rights.

So, the Constitution itself grants Congress unlimited power to tax and does not even mention, much less protect, the individual right to keep the fruits of one’s labor. Certainly the Bill of Rights addresses this deficiency, doesn’t it?

It does not. Like the Constitution itself, the Bill of Rights is virtually silent on the central right of property. Out of all ten amendments, the word “property” appears in only one of them:

“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

Unlike the congressional power to tax granted in the Constitution, the constitutional protections codified in the Fifth Amendment are severely limited to specific, extraordinary circumstances. The entire Fifth Amendment is set in the context of criminal law, granting certain protections to the accused and/or convicted. The phrase “due process of law” is a specific legal term that refers to those accused of a crime being given notice of the charges, opportunity to face their accusers, call witnesses in their defense, etc. This was obviously the intent of this protection of property, rather than a general protection of property rights against taxation.

Even if one discards the clear intention of this clause of the Fifth Amendment and interprets “due process of law” more broadly, the amendment offers no more protection of property than if one interprets the clause narrowly. Since the power to tax is an enumerated power, Congress would be following due process of law simply by levying the tax in the first place.

The last clause of the Fifth Amendment, regarding property taken “for public use,” is similarly limited to extraordinary circumstances. This clause undoubtedly refers to eminent domain, which is a grievous abuse of property rights, but certainly not one that affects a large percentage of the population. Even here, no right is protected. The clause merely requires the government to give the victim “just compensation.” There is no mention of the primary component of the right of property, consent.

Furthermore, there is no mention of how “just compensation” is to be determined, although history has shown that the government itself determines what compensation is just arbitrarily. In a free society, the value of property is determined by the price at which the owner is willing to exchange it. However, since there is no requirement here of the owner’s consent, no such price determination can occur.

As for the remaining protections of property in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, there are none. These two phrases, protecting property under only the most extraordinary circumstances are the length and breadth of the Constitution’s involvement with this most fundamental right. It is this deficiency that has allowed the federal government to grow into the monster that it is, concerned with virtually nothing but the redistribution of wealth.

If you believe the official myth about the Constitution, this might seem shocking. After all, the document was drafted by the same people that had seceded from their nation and fought a long and bloody war primarily to defend their right to keep the fruits of their labor. How could they draft a document to recreate their government, which they said only existed to secure their rights, and not only fail to secure the most important right, but actually empower their government to violate it with impunity? Certainly this was history’s most colossal error.

However, when you consider the political platform of the Federalists, which included corporate welfare, monetary inflation, deficit spending, government debt, and militarism, all designed to maintain the wealth and power of a privileged elite at the expense of the rest of the citizenry, the unlimited power to tax and lack of protection of property seem less like error and more like deliberate intention.

Whenever the subject of “constitutional rights” (a problematic term itself) comes up, people reflexively refer to the right of free speech. This is an important right, and one defended across the political spectrum. However, free speech, freedom of the press, and the other rights protected by the Bill of Rights, without property rights, are inconsequential – the mere window dressing of liberty. It is property that enables one to determine the course of one’s own life. Without it, the right to life is no right at all, but rather a privilege granted by those who own your labor.

George W. Bush was an enthusiastic supporter of the right of “free speech.” During a town hall meeting, an average American who opposed Bush’s policies rose and began hurling insults at the president, eliciting boos from the Bush-friendly audience. Bush reprimanded the crowd, reminding them that this man had a right to speak his mind, even if they did not like what he had to say. It was not the only time that he stood up for free speech. This was no accident. A government that has the unlimited power to seize the property of its citizens can afford to be magnanimous when it comes to free speech. Yet, for the citizen who no longer owns the fruits of his own labor, the right to complain makes him no less a slave.

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You never cease to amaze me.

You never cease to amaze me. Great! Awesome! Spectacular!

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Oops!

Somebody forgot to read the preamble which encompasses tangible and intangible, corporeal and incorporeal.

Thomas, I hope you'll get a chance

to discuss these excellent points with Judge Napolitano and Badnarik.

You are correct - the Constitution does NOT protect our

property - it is only a piece of paper - you have to refer to the Constitution and build your case around what this document is referring to.

It is a declaration of limitations ON elected officials of what THEY CANNOT DO!

And within the Constitution...

...is the declared 'authority' for those writing the rules to declare what they CAN do.

Which is why there's no limitations on what government has or will do. They make the rules for themselves.

And this is why I constantly

And this is why I constantly rail against the constitution's [many] inadequacies and shortcomings.

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

Its the lack of character of 'the people' that cause

inadequacies and shortcomings, not the document itself!

I'm all for a supreme and

I'm all for a supreme and inviolable law that protects our freedom; the constitution is on its way to being perfected, provided it is amended to restrict federal and state powers.

The rule of law is paramount, but that law must be just and it must be followed without exception.

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

In your dreams.

It's a nice dream, but seems to be based on the common Utopian fantasy that a limited government can remain limited. Ask yourself:
1. How can any law enforced and interpreted by human beings be "inviolable?"
2. The Constitution is on its way to being perfected -- by whom? And what makes you think it is "on its way"?? -- looks to me like it hit the wall about a hundred years ago and its corpse is now in the last stages of decomposition.
3. The Constitution may be "amended to restrict federal and state powers" -- if we elect a liberty-minded President, 2/3rds majorities in both houses of Congress AND such amendments can be approved by 3/4ths of the States . . . see any signs of that happening?
4. "The rule of law is paramount" -- you mean we can't be trusted to rule ourselves, but we can trust politicians to rule us?
5. "That law must be just." Can any law imposed on people without their UNANIMOUS consent be just?
6. If human beings possess free will -- and they do -- is it possible to make ANY law which "must be followed without exception"?

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So then I take it you don't

So then I take it you don't believe any of this is possible... so why would you strive for that which you believe is impossible?

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

What I'm striving for

is individual liberty. Ron Paul favors it too, so I support him. But I don't believe that government -- constitutional or otherwise -- is a step in the right direction. My dreams, you see, are even more outrageous than yours.

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abolishing government is the

abolishing government is the longest(and bloodiest) road from government to government.

Ventura 2012

One good non sequiter deserves another:

Establishing a government is the longest and bloodiest road back to anarchy.

Homework assignment: How many people were killed by their own governments in the twentieth century? How many people were killed by OTHER governments? How many people were killed by nongovernmental murderers? For bloody murder, NOTHING beats government.

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Ridiculous. Show me a real

Ridiculous. Show me a real government that devolved into anarchy! The only example I can think of was the collapse of the Roman Empire into the pseudo-volantarist feudal system.

Of course governments kill more because they are organized people. People kill people.

Ventura 2012

Or not.

1. A movement toward complete personal liberty (i.e. anarchy) should not be categorized as "devolution." Call it "progress."
2. I would love to show you an example of a real society that made ANY significant movement from a high level of government control to a lower level, but admit that they're thin on the ground. I said it was a LONG road back, remember. I'm hoping the Ron Paul Revolution will a movement in that direction.
3. If organized people kill more, isn't that a great argument for doing away with the organization?

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Oh, those pesky facts!

Without government how would all those people who control government be able to kill millions, enslave millions, make themselves and their buddies rich and get away with it?

Governments throughout the ages have been responsible for more suffering and death than all the individual criminal actors combined. In fact, I'd be surprised if the sum total of all the people violated or killed by the US federal government didn't surpass the total of people violated or killed by individual criminals since the dawn of mankind. Keep in mind we're talking about the only government ever to use atomic weapons on other human beings.

Some day, I hope and pray, people will learn.

that was a powerful, succinct post,

dabooda.

Not necessarily. I would only

Not necessarily. I would only accept as a supreme, inviolable, and just law that one may never harm another or his property without the consent of the injured.

That is all the law we will ever need.

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

All the law we will ever need?

For the sake of argument, let's say I agree with you -- which is ALMOST true.

Just a few questions we ought to settle, first:
1. Who gets to write the law, and what is their authority for doing so?
2. Who gets to enforce the law?
3. How do we ensure that the enforcers will enforce the law properly? (Who gets to define "properly"?)
4. Who will decide when the law has been broken?
5. Who will decide what to do with lawbreakers?
6. How will the law enforcers (courts, police, prison warders, executioners) be paid? Who gets to set their salaries?
7. What happens to folks who do not wish to pay for the law enforcers?
8. Can your law be amended? By whom, and by what means?
9. What will prevent the law-makers and law-enforcers from increasing their own power and privilege at the expense of everyone else's liberty -- just the way it happened with the Constitution?

I could go on, but I think the point is clear: to have something that functions like a government, you need a lot more than one simple law. And I'm afraid that you will NECESSARILY find yourself violating the very rights that you mean to protect, because that's what taxes entail.

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1. Who gets to write the law,

1. Who gets to write the law, and what is their authority for doing so?

We the people would write the law. Since it would be only a reactionary law to injury, we would have the authority to do so as potential victims.

2. Who gets to enforce the law?

We the people, in our capacity as militia, in our capacity as human beings with unalienable rights.

3. How do we ensure that the enforcers will enforce the law properly? (Who gets to define "properly"?)

By holding them criminally liable for their actions, like we do right now.

Individuals should have the right to bring charges against another person via a grand jury, without needing the permission of politicians like district attorneys. Of course there would be checks and balances between the judge, the citizen, and the grand jury to make sure it's not a frivolous or harassing complaint.

4. Who will decide when the law has been broken?

Juries

5. Who will decide what to do with lawbreakers?

Juries, and I believe restitution should be incorporated into punishment.

6. How will the law enforcers (courts, police, prison warders, executioners) be paid? Who gets to set their salaries?

They should be set by the market, or perhaps even paid by the offenders and prisoners. Prison labor could be contracted out for hire and the proceeds could fund the government compensate the victims. This is actually how constables are paid in some states.

7. What happens to folks who do not wish to pay for the law enforcers?

You should have the right to waive the protection of the law. Many people, in fact, have waived their constitutional protections.

8. Can your law be amended? By whom, and by what means?

For what reason would a simple law like "do no harm" need to be amended? That's an opening for tyranny.

9. What will prevent the law-makers and law-enforcers from increasing their own power and privilege at the expense of everyone else's liberty -- just the way it happened with the Constitution?

Lawmakers would be compensated and funded by prisoners who could only be imprisoned by a jury.

If government is strictly limited only to keeping the peace, and nothing more, there is no way for anybody to increase power he does not have.

Freedom requires eternal vigilance and, yes, some risk. If you desire security from the state, then you cannot ever be free. You will have to choose.

I'm not saying we need to live in anarchy where people can shoot each other without repercussion. I'm saying we can have freedom and prevent crime without this massive institution bearing down on us.

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

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If anything, Mr. Mullen understates his case.

Clearly, the Constitution does not protect our right to property. Not surprising, because the Constitution does not actually protect us from ANYTHING that those in government choose to do.

Let's suppose you are a decent and innocent soul who has never even spit on a sidewalk. One day, for no particular reason, some of our charming rulers decide to steal every last bit of your property, throw you in a cage, torture you, deny you legal counsel or a legal trial by a jury of your peers, and eventually murder you. Is there any point in these proceedings where "the Constitution protects your rights"? Nope.

Well, it's SUPPOSED to. But who will bell the cat? Who will force our rulers to abide by the rules, when they choose not to do so? They pass "unconstitutional" laws every day, and our government-appointed Supreme Court doesn't bat an eye. This is not a "flaw" in the Constitution, which can be amended out of existence. This is a flaw in our thinking, something Larken Rose calls "The Most Dangerous Superstition." (See his book THE IRON WEB, or his (free) TMDS Blog.) The notion that some men can be made "rightful masters" or "lawful authorities" with the power to enforce their decisions on the peasantry rests on the moral assumption that your life, liberty and property belong to THEM, not to you.

If you want someone to protect your rights, look to yourself, your friends and family, and others of like mind. Your government will respect and protect only such rights as they find convenient for their purposes -- not yours.

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The General Welfare

Contrasted to general welfare is special welfare. What is general leaves no one out. What is special or particular applies to less than all.

Stocks pay dividends that are applied by general rule. Each stock holder gets an equal share of the profits based on ownership.

If the government formed by “We the people” is to “promote the general welfare” then no special group can benefit more or at the expense of another group or individual.

The one statement “promote the general welfare” should serve to thwart the tyranny of the majority over the minority as well as oppression of the majority by a wealthy or cunning few.

Followed with the goal to “secure the Blessings of Liberty” makes clear that no one’s blessings should be usurped by others.

The government dole is established on political whim. Each citizen gets a different share of the taxes. Each citizen pays a different share into the kitty of collected taxes. In order for this to be Constitutional in intent and practice, it would have to be by consensus without coercion. Only then would redistribution of wealth be seen to promote the general welfare.

“[C]orporate welfare, monetary inflation, deficit spending, government debt, and militarism” do not “promote the general welfare”, as they favor one faction over others.

Free includes debt-free!

It does not matter what we

It does not matter what we have for a high law and debt relief (Michigan?); IF the government is going to circumvent, and/or ignore, and/or suspend it whenever it proves inconvenient. Why do they do it? Because of 2 things:
1. They want to;
2. We let them.
When either of those ceases, it will stop.
In the end, the MAJORITY get the government they deserve.

Melanyor: Well said!

...

This is why Mises had it right.

Consumer-Sovereingty.

The greatest pool of people (in fact all the people) are defined as consumers -- the amount they consumer means nothing; in a consumer-driven society (no laws against or regulating competition in "all" markets; including currency and self-defense) everyone is empowered.

In all other forms of society you have the have's vs the have nots.

A Rights-War -- A Lobbying-War -- A Voting-War

Many of the problems we have

Many of the problems we have today were surely baked in the cake to begin with. But, ultimately no document no matter how well written can protect your freedoms and liberty. That responsibility rests with us the shareholders of this nation and we have done a mostly miserable job of it. I think the Constitution needs to be amended in many places but overall it's a genius document the way it separates power.

Thanks for the essay

I just finished your book "A Return to Common Sense". It was very informative and I recommend it. I am trying to get my 10 year old daughter to read it now. She need inoculation against the public school propaganda.

Roger Hermann
Chicago, IL

Mr. Mullen, Good Essay but,

Surely you realize that the times were very different in the 1700's. Native Americans I've talked to still don't have a word in their native language for ownership.

Slavery and indentured servitude was widespread, woman couldn't vote.

In the front of my copy of the Constitution former Chief Justice Warren Burger had this to say about the Constitution:

Condensed, "This Constitution was not perfect; It is not perfect today even with amendments but,,,,
,,This Constitution creates 3 separate independent branches of government, with checks and balances that {{Are Supposed }} to keep the power of government within boundries set by law.
This system does not always produce tidy results;
It depends on a clash of views in debate and in bargain and compromise.....etc.

The point is:
At any time the Constitution can be up dated by the 3 branches of government agreeing and passing a new Constitutional amendment.

Very unfortunately for all Americans, in my opinion, the voters have failed to research candidates positions on important matters.

Ron Paul wanted to stop federal taxation and abolish the IRS, I thought that would have got him enough support to become President in 2008. I was wrong !
However, some Ron Paul supporters are slowly making a difference by running for office and spreading Dr. Paul's views far and wide.

I would be more than happy to support any candidate that pledges to protect property rights in writing, that could be passed into law.

Thank you for the essay.

beesting

Legal Tender and Taxes

The Constitution does say only gold and silver shall be legal tender. I always believed this to be the protector of the fruits of our labor. As for taxation, I will echo a previous patriot's comment; the constitution did not grant the federal government the authority of direct taxation of the populous. If it did, why bother with the 16th?

That only restricts HOW they can tax us

not how much or for what purpose, the latter being my main point.

And the courts always say

And the courts always say those are political questions that are to be resolved by the congress...

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

um...

Just a note: that The Declaration of Independence stands as the initial law declared, ratified by representatives, and agreed to by all citizens of all States. The State constitutions are secondary. The U.S.Constitution replaced the Articles of Confederation and remains tertiary. The Bill of Rights became part of The Constitution prior to its inception. The spirit of The Constitution is largely to protect individuals' rights. Yes I agree, The Constitution does declare that the States involved do grant power to a general federal body, as it surely does require power to wage war and such. Not many powers are enumerated(or needed) to support this unified expression of power. The Bill of Rights were a double-edged sword for those of us who preferred keeping the Articles of Confederation. The Bill of Rights oddly elaborate three simultaneous categories of notion, all protecting the rights of individuals either directly of indirectly. It further elaborates on some of what the previous articles bear, which is the common ground upon which all member States' constitutions are to stand. The Bill of Rights also elaborates clearer definition limiting the business of the united body. The Bill of Rights also elaborates the grandest of all scary experiments, The Constitution's attempt to include safeguards to help individual citizens of each State protect themselves from tyranny imposed by their own State goverments, a means for an individual to appeal for help from the other States to protect his inalienable rights from being trampled by his own[State]. The Constitution, as did the Articles of Confederation, also defines the forum and means to which States may settle disputes and better work in tandem for the good of all involved. My studies support my preferred perspective that today I remain exclusively a citizen of the State of Minnesota, and that Minnesota is a member state of the union referred to as the United States. Yes, much legislation has been passed over the years by those in the District of Columbia who seem to refer to me as a U.S. citizen. This does not change my perspective, nor the law. Even Lincoln did not attempt to coerce individuals back into allegiance to what he called The United States. He attempted to coerce the States back into what he called a Union. Neither did he come with with guns to force individuals to pay taxes but for the States to pay their taxes. If one is to think that he saved the Union, perhaps one might think that he first destroyed it. It's a seemingly endless debate of semantics, isn't it? HA! Bush felt he had to abandon the free market to save the free market. Lincoln did the same with The Constitution, didn't he? I digress. Words represent spirit. We can debate the words all day, but I declare that the entire spirit of The Constitution was initially written in the spirit of attempting to aid the individual to protect his rights and property. :)

I'm tempted to reread this comment before posting to correct or better choose any words, but I'll pass on that notion and move along. I feel adequately confident that the spirit of my expression was quite clear. ;)

You're wrong, and in the first sentence of your post no less

You say "Just a note: that The Declaration of Independence stands as the initial law declared, ratified by representatives, and agreed to by all citizens of all States."

Now I know that those people you're referring to are all deceased at this point so I wouldn't ba able to ask them, but I'll be willing to bet that not everyone agreed. And I think if you consider it, you'll agree that it'd be quite unlikely that all agreed.

HaHa!

I concur. You got me. As a matter of fact I eventually did reread my comment, and exactly what you pointed out is exactly the thing I almost edited/changed. A few other things in my comment might be worth editing, but that last phrase of the first sentence is most worthy of such. In fact I'd simply delete it, and the one before it. Hmm, I might add the words, "[...declared,] enacted, and remaining." And if you don't agree with that, you can go back to England! ;D

Failed to Defend What?

There have been a number of replies suggesting that the problems we have result from the citizens or lack of officials failing to defend the Constitution, rather than there being a problem with the Constitution itself.

I completely agree that we have all failed to defend the good parts of the Constitution. However, this article speaks very specifically to a defect related to our property rights.

There were people with liberty as the goal at the constitutional convention and people with empire and oligarchy as the goal. My argument is that the result was a document that has some good things in it, but also has monumental problems that have led to our current situation. Specifically, the Constitution empowers Congress to tax us for whatever they deem "the general welfare."

At the time, Hamilton wanted this so that he could collect taxes and funnel the money to his buddies to "build roads and canals," and other "internal improvements." This was purely a corporate welfare scheme. However, the defect in the Constitution would apply equally to those who deem government-provided healthcare to be necessary for the general welfare, social security, a $700 billion military, etc. History has proven that this is just what has happened.

So, to all of those who have replied that we just haven't "defended the Constitution," or similarly that our legislators have simply ignored it, I don't believe that is a valid reply to this argument. The argument is that this document provides for all of this government, and that the faction (the Hamiltonian Federalists) that pushed for it (and other things that they did not get in)intentionally got these clauses in for exactly the reasons that I've cited.

Therefore, even if the Constitution were perfectly defended and abided by, we would still have the leviathan government that we have now.

Tom Mullen: I agree 100%

Great Summation.

How about the notion that we hold ourselves to any "document" rather than a living contitution.

Here's my improved Cosntitution:

1) Never relinquish authority regarding Self-Defense
2) Never relinquish authority regarding Self-Health
3) Never relinquish authority regarding Self-Rule
4) Never seek a "champion"
5) God is the respector of no men

Written on the bathroom walls of all the Rest Stops along major Highways/Interstates

Written on Subway Trains and on the sides of Buildings

---Never written on paper

**walks out the door

If there were any amendments to be made to the

Constitution it would be that devious phrase, 'the general welfare' to be made more precise and of course at this stage of the game it would simply divide the country even further.

Other than that, what do you suggest we do now and what are your thoughts on the 'Articles of Freedom' that were arrived at by the recent Continental Congress 2009? Have you read this 68 page document?

Isn't this worth a try?

Articles of Freedom

Hello Bob,

Is there anywhere I can read the articles in a plain text web page, rather than the program that makes it look like a book?

Tom,

go to the original Continental Congress 2009 website. This is the better copy. The new website has some snags in it still.

www.cc2009.us

It would 'appear' for all intents and purposes that the

Constitution 'failed' to protect our Rights and property, however, the Constitution must be DEFENDED by those elected otherwise it most certainly may become vulnerable to legal spin and perversion of the spirit and letter of the law should concerted efforts by just 'a few' elected ones working in unison for nefarious foreign purposes, be allowed to pervert and ignore the law.

Therefore, it is NOT the failure of the Constitution to protect our Rights and property but the failure of elected officials to stay silent while being witness to the rape of the Rule of law, thereby making each of those who did NOT speak up in support of the Constitution complicit in its demise.

Only 'virtuous' people are worthy of freedom and sovereignty, that was the 'wager' that the founders of this country left to posterity.

That was what was meant by Ben Franklin when he stated ominously, "You shall have a Republic if you can keep it". Because the truth remains, only a virtuous people can maintain a true free Republic of law.

What this author missed, like

What this author missed, like most people, is RIGHTS are PROPERTY. Your rights are your property. Your rights, being your property, belong to you and to no one else.

Supreme Court Quote: In a 1795 Supreme Court case the Court declared:

"No man would become a member of a community in which he could not enjoy the fruits of his honest labor and industry. The preservation of property, then, is a primary object of the social compact . . . The legislature, therefore, had no authority to make an act divesting one citizen of his freehold and vesting it in another, without a just compensation. It is inconsistent with the principles of reason, justice and moral rectitude; it is incompatible with the comfort, peace and happiness of mankind, it is contrary to the principles of social alliance in every free government, and lastly, it is contrary to the letter and spirit of the Constitution."

He also distorts...

...the use and meaning of the word "Tax". As defined by our Founders taxes are to be "Apportioned to the several States". There was no direct Federal Tax on a mans labor. Taxes were optional in the sense that you didn't have to buy the good or service that had a excise or tariff laid upon it. The idea that the Federal Government originally gave itself the power of "direct taxation" on labor and wages is simply false. They had to amend the Constitution to complete this task. See 16th Amendment. It could be that the Founders never foresaw that a people would vote against their best interest and grant such powers to the Federal Government. Lord only knows why the States went along with this intrusion.

You are correct, but the States as it were DID NOT

unanimously GO ALONG WITH THIS AMENDMENT!

The sixteenth amendment WAS NEVER, NEVER ratified by 2/3s of the States. In the year 1914, there were only a few voices who objected and brought this fact up but the 16 amendment was rammed through 'as if' it were ratified overwhelming those opposing voices and proceeded forward with its intentions to 'take property by force'.

This formed the creation of centralized banking leviathan 'with teeth' even though those teeth are in fact unconstitutional and illegal!

Go here and listen to Jeffery Dickstein, Constitutional attorney, talk about the 16th amendment and present the 'proof' of the conspicuous absence of NO RATIFICATION by the States:

www.cc2009.us

Actually, 2/3 of the States

Actually, 2/3 of the States did ratify. If you look at the research, you'll see that two states of the 42 that ratified should not have been counted; Oklahoma & one other state.

But the other states mentioned in the research did ratify, but there were internal legal arguments against.

But it not the federal government's job to judge internal state matters, so these states should have been counted.

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for James Madison.

In other words, George

In other words, George Washington, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Sam Adams, John Hancock, Robert Morris and Ben Franklin were all idiots who were too stupid to defend property rights.

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for James Madison.

well if you look at the big picture

they didn't have the balls to declare themselves freemen so I guess your right.

Wisdom is better than weapons of War.....

Not stupid; statists.

Most of them were statists, especially Hamilton and Washington. Any government which grants itself the right to levy taxes without the UNANIMOUS consent of the governed must logically claim to own (i.e. have the right to dispose of as they see fit) the property of its subjects. Which makes its subjects themselves property of the government, eventually.

I wish the founders had been able to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh-ttsYcWb8

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.larkenrose.com/store/34-books/2019-the-most-dange...

you've defined word "statist"

you've defined word "statist" to be a near-synonym for "human", since over 99.999% of people believe that some form of government is necessary. A definition that actually justifies the use of the word is as follows:

statist - one who generally turns to state power as the solution for perceived social problems.

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Lets go back in time...

Most people believe the world is flat! They must be right!

Most people believe that man can never fly! After all, God didn't give man wings!

Most people believe that the speed of sound can never be exceeded! It's foolhardy to even try!

Most people believe that atomic power is the stuff of science fiction! Why, if an atom were ever split it would start a chain reation that'd destroy the whole planet!

Those are some fairly universal well proven examples of how 'most people' were completely wrong about a deep help belief. Shall I go on, or do you get the idea?

And yes, you are a statist.

When the overwhelming

When the overwhelming majority of people believe the world is flat, you don't casually throw around the word "flat earthers" because it means almost EVERYONE! Its a pointless distinction! You try differentiate the minority(Round Earthers). Today you would do the exact opposite.

But you're right, me Ron Paul, and Hitler are all statists. Rothbard was a tax feeder.

That much aggregation would make a KEYNESIAN blush!

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