The most important document you will ever write, I guess sovereignty is way more important than we thought,
We thought at first anyways, but now things have come to my attention, that this document is probably one of the
most effective documents to have, filed under your name at any recorders office in this united states, i couldn't
believe the magnitude of the document at first having no training in law, I was ignorant to a lot of things in the past
especially law and I found that learning definitions couldn't hurt me at all, so after learning the definitions and
studying the procedure, I decided to act and get one filed I was scared at first I would have to admit, but after a while I
realized I was doing nothing wrong, and only rebutting a issue that if they even talked about, could be very
incriminating for them so they won't respond at all, learning that I was no longer afraid but encouraged to help others
with the same process, I have to admit that a lot people reacted nasty towards me for even talking about this stuff
acting like it wasn't important at all and mocking me, and not even considering what was presented to them at all.
I found that discouragement is like a gross disease which can destroy the mind set of man or woman with many years
experience producing ideas for anything in their field by being encouraged by others to do so, this can easily be
destroyed by a little discouragement it produces the exact opposite effect to everyone it comes in contact with, Well I
could Go on and on, so here is the document, this email was written for i hope you enjoy this and learn something I
encourage all of you to ask me questions if you need a answer on how to file your own but really there is way to many of
you for me to make them all, so you will at least have to use this document as a blue print.
sincerely
:jeramy-lee: baker:
"private-attorney-general for the united states"
MANUFACTURERS STATEMENT OF ORIGIN
IDENTIFYING THE COMMERCIAL TOKEN/RESULTING TRUST JASON L. DOWELL / JASON LEE DOWELL as the Decedent-Defendant/Debtor and for the IDENTIFYING OF THE UNINCORPORATED COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY as the SURETY/LEGAL OWNER -
of their manufactured Decedent-Defendant JASON L. DOWELL - No. 40-6069255/No. 406-06-9255 with the MANUFACTURERS-ORIGIN in this JASON LEE DOWELL - Certified No. 2022908 and No. 116-1976-51186, a Known Resulting Trust, with the USE under the DURESS for the PRIVATE NECESSITY of this Jason-Lee: Dowell: / jason-lee: Pursuant to the Doctrine of Necessity in Consumer Transactions.
1.For this JASON LEE DOWELL - Certified No. 2022908 and No. 116-1976-51186, with the bifurcation (forking) as this JASON L. DOWELL - No. 40-6069255, is with this belief to be a Resulting Trust / Commercial Token by Operation of Law, a(n) [alleged] Federal Reserve Account or a Stock Certificate and/or JASON L. DOWELL - No. 40-6069255, by the FRAUD with the Vacate of the MORAL DUTY for the Disclosure and WITHOUT the Contract for the SURETY.
2.For the unincorporated COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY is [as] the LEGAL-INTEREST HOLDER in the Resulting Trust / Commercial Token - JASON L. DOWELL and therefore the RESPONSIBLE SURETY to these False Credit Claims within these IRREGULAR-EXTRA-Judicial Judgments as these COUNTERFEIT SECURITIES: No. 40-6069255, by the SCIENTER ACTS of the STATE=S Agents / Esquires as these herein noted, ACCESSORIES, for these Bailments are with the Acquiring by the Means of this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee and with the positing of the Legal Titles into the Resulting Trust JASON L. DOWELL is also for the HYPOTHECATION to the Bankruptcy by this Involuntary-Contributing-Beneficiary Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee for the use of this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust is of the PRIVATE NECESSITY of this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee.
3.For this Jason-lee believes the following is the Best Description of a Manufacturers Origin and Commissioning is as a BOND / STOCK within the Resulting Trust / Commercial Token JASON L. DOWELL, a Bifurcation of the JASON LEE DOWELL, Certified No. 2022908 and No. 116-1976-51186 for this Jason-Lee: Dowell’s / jason-lee’s EQUITY INTEREST RECOVERY for the unincorporated STATE’S USE of the Bailments as the posited Legal Titles acquired by this, the CESTUI QUE: Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee.
A)PLACE of BERTHING / COMMISSIONING: Paducah, KY
B)DATE of BERTH / REGISTRATION: November 25, 1976
C)EVENT CERTIFIED: Yes
Foundation Document on File with the: Certified No. 2022908
D)CERTIFICATE of VALUABLE TOKEN: the Security, Bond, Stock Undisclosed -
Reg. No. 116-1976-51186, and Instrument for the Private Necessity of this Jason-Lee.
E)REGISTRANT: COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY -
as the unincorporated STATE [perhaps] best described as a Penal Colony, registered by an unknown Agent.
F)INVENTORY OF ASSETS: A Resulting Trust -
as Holder of the Legal Titles of the Real Property acquired by the Labor of this Cestui Que - Bailor is with the positing of these Legal Titles into the Commercial Token JASON L. DOWELL as a Resulting Trust / Account No. 40-6069255 / No. 406-06-9255, as this Cestui Que – this Bailor - this Lender is the Beneficial Interest Holder of these Bailments.
The Registered Owner (b, c and d above) of this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL is the Fiduciary and SURETY for the Assets within the Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL and this Fiduciary is also the Warehouseman for the Assets posited within this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL.
G)CAPACITY: Decedent-Estate & Trust of no moral Value, Knowledge, or Volition. Solvency depends upon this Involuntary-Contributing Beneficiary as this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee and possible Value undisclosed within the Certified No. 2022908 and Account No. 116-1976-51186 as a Bond and/or Stock Certificate.
No known Disclosure by this unincorporated PENAL COLONY as the COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY, suggests possible Fraud by the Misrepresentation of the Creator by the Non-Disclosure.
H)FICTIONAL PARENTS: Also Decedent-Estates & Trusts.
Alleged Marriage Contract suggests a Joint Venture in Commerce as opposed to the Impossibility of Two Trusts as a Decedent Estate Title: being MARRIED.
Guardian(s) is/are perhaps Esquire(s) &/or Agent(s) acting deceitfully in the Capacity as the Trustees Ex Maleficio(s) appointed by the Legal Owner of their Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL for an inchoate Three-Party Contract with Two Signatures is without Validity.
I) LEGAL STATUS of the TRUST: JASON L. DOWELL/JASON LEE DOWELL
is by the unincorporated COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY'S BERTHING as a COMMERCIAL TOKEN, as the Resulting Trust – Vessel – Person - Body Corporate - No. 40-6069255 / No. 406-06-9255 – Debtor - Holder of the Bailment(s), in the Legal Title, as A Resulting Trust.
This Resulting Trust arises by the Operation of the Law whenever a Beneficial Interest is not to go along with the Legal Title, as where a Conveyance is taken in the Name of One Person and the Consideration is advanced, as in this Case, by this Consumer: Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee, as the Cestui Que - the Lender - and - the Mandator, as this Bailor, in the Contract of a Mandate, as this Lender - this Bailor, this Cestui Que, and this Mandator is NOT A SURETY, but a User for the CONSUMER TRANSACTIONS.
For this CONSUMER TRANSACTION is by the USE of this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL, under the Duress of the Private Necessity by this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee as the ONLY ONE KNOWN to the giving of the Value.
J)LEGAL OWNER and SURETY
of Commercial Token/Result-
ing Trust- JASON L. DOWELL: Creator / Registrant &/or Agent(s) of THE STATE Who are by the Mandate in the Fiduciary Relationship with the Joint and the Several Liability to this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL.
For the Fiduciary Duty of the Legal Title Holder is for the Asset(s) held by this Trust for the Alleged Right of the Hypothecation of these Legal Titles to their Bankruptcy.
Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee has never been compensated for:
1. The risk to the Real Property Interest Holder by the Hypothecation to the Bankruptcy.
2. The loss of a Vested Right for the holding of the Real Property in One’s Own Christian Appellation.
3. The loss of the Right to open a Bank Account in One’s Own Christian Appellation.
4. The Involuntary Use of this Private-Scrip
5. The Denial of the Equity Jurisdiction for the RIGHT to the Equity Interest Recovery to this Beneficiary, the Cestui que - Jason-Lee: Dowell: / jason-lee.
K)EQUITABLE/BENEFICIAL
INTEREST HOLDER in the
REAL PROPERTY held by
the Commercial Token /
Resulting Trust - JASON L.
DOWELL: is this Involuntary Contributing Beneficiary
as this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee, as the Cestui Que - the Bailor - the Contributing Beneficiary - the Lender - the Consumer, within the Meaning of the Title 15, Chapter 41, sub-chapter V, section 1692 (f) & (g).
L)ADDRESS of the TRUST
JASON L. DOWELL:
This Artificial Person, this Fiction, this Legal Entity, this [possible] Transmitting Utility is perhaps a 14th Amendment citizen, is a creation of the STATE, may be a mere RESIDENT, in the corporate UNITED STATES, for this RESIDENCE of this Dependent – Trust – Token - JASON L. DOWELL, exists only as the undisclosed Digits in the Ledgers of the Trustee Ex Maleficio(s), with the USE under the DURESS for the PRIVATE NECESSITY of this Beneficiary, the Cestui Que - Jason-Lee: Dowell: / jason-lee: until such Time as the SURETY with the Legal Interest should come forward.
M)SURETY BOND:
For this Involuntary Contributing Beneficiary's Real Property and Financial Assets are posited within this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL for the hypothecation of this the Real Property to the Bankruptcy. Therefore, It is Logical that THE STATE originally created this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL as a Bond for this Real Property posited into this Resulting Trust / Commercial Token - JASON L. DOWELL by this Cestui Que - Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee.
For this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee is neither the Surety for this Resulting Trust / Commercial Token - JASON L. DOWELL, NOR is this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee a Voluntary Contributing Beneficiary, nor is this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee a Voter within this PENAL COLONY.
For this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee is with the Sovereignty over the Evil and without the Slave Status of the Capitis Diminutio Novation for the Involuntary Servitude within the unincorporated Penal Colony [as] the COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY to the Contracts manufactured with the OBJECT for the PERFORMANCE of the ACTS of the Malum in se in Use by the Agent(s) - Trustees Ex Maleficio(s) - Esquires in the Covenants for the Robbery of this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL by THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY'S Fiduciaries - Esquires, in esse, or by the Fiduciary - Esquires of the unincorporated COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY as the herein named Accessories within this Common Law Declaration.
N)INSURABLE EARNING: None Known.
However, all of this Cestui Que's Labor over the Years is by the Discharge into this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL with the Account Number as: No. 40-6069255 / No. 406-06-9255 for the False Claim of the Taxing of the Labor of this Cestui Que through this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL, for All of this, the Cestui Que’s Labor is by the Discharge into this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL, for the Equitable Interest Claim of this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee.
O)PARENT(S): The Registrant(s)
of this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL is / are the Creator(s) as THE STATE or as another such Undisclosed Entity.
4.THE RESULTING TRUST: LEGAL TITLE HOLDER V. BENEFICIAL INTEREST HOLDER
Whereas this Lender - Consumer - Bailor - as this Benificiary - the Cestui Que - Jason-Lee is the Involuntary-Contributing-Beneficiary with the NEED as the PRIVATE NECESSITY of the Resulting Trust / Commercial Token - JASON L. DOWELL.
Whereas this Jason-Lee cannot hold Legal Titles to the acquired Real Property Interests within His Christian Appellation.
Whereas this Jason-Lee is the ONLY KNOWN PARTY to have furnished the Means for the Acquisition of the Legal Titles to the Real Property and the Financial Assets that are with the Positing into the Titled Resulting Trust / Commercial Token - JASON L. DOWELL, or a Simulation thereof.
Whereas the Beneficial Interest to this Real Property is not to go along with the Legal Title, therefore, by these “Acts of Necessity” a Resulting Trust arises.
Whereas this Jason-Lee / jason-lee knows of NO OTHER(S) that have given Value to the Real Property and / or to the Financial Assets conveyed into this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL.
Whereas there is ONLY ONE Answer to the Question of WHO shall ENJOY the BENEFITS, a STATUS raised by LAW, in an OPERATION of a NATURAL EQUITY ?
Whereas that Answer can only be the ONE Who furnishes the Means for the Acquisition of the Property SHALL ENJOY the BENEFITS.
N O W T H E R E F O R E, B E I T
R E S O L V E D that
Resolved that this Jason-Lee of the Family Dowell, the Cestui Que, the Lender, and the Bailor, is the ONLY ONE furnishing of the Means for the Acquisition of the Property, of both the Real Property and of the Financial Assets posited within the Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL.
Resolved that a Resulting Trust arises by Operation of Law whenever a Beneficial Interest is not to go along with the Legal Title, as where the Conveyance of the Legal Title is taken in the Name of one Person as in this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL and the Consideration is with the advancing in this Instant Case by this Jason-Lee as the Value from the Labor, WHO in turn RETAINS THE BENEFICIAL INTEREST in the Real Property and the Financial Assets held in the Legal Title of the Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL.
Resolved that the Registered Owner, (b, c and d above) of this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust JASON L. DOWELL is the Fiduciary and the SURETY for the Assets within the Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL and this Fiduciary is also the Warehouseman for the Assets posited within this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL.
Resolved that the USE of this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL is under the DURESS for the PRIVATE NECESSITY of this, the Cestui Que - Jason-Lee: Dowell: / jason-lee: until such Time as the SURETY with the Legal Interest should come forward.
All Claims must be VALIDATED per Title 15 Chapter 41, sub-chapter V, Section 1692, as all Transactions from the Use, under the Duress of the Private Necessity of this Beneficiary, the Cestui Que - Jason-Leethrough this Commercial Token / Resulting Trust - JASON L. DOWELL are by PRIVATE NECESSITY and are CONSUMER TRANSACTIONS.
FOR THE PLACE ON THE RECORD:
For this Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee affirms for the record that this document was based on the best of my knowledge and the best of my belief, written by my hand, on the land, in the City of Anchorage in the Territory of Alaska, on this, the second day, of the 7th month, in the year of My Lord and Surety: Two Thousand and Nine - in the 232nd year of the Independence of these united States of America.
This Jason-Lee: Dowell / jason-lee for the authentication of the Manufacturers Statement of Origin give Proof of My Pledge by the eal of my thumbprintto the Truthfulness of this document under my present understanding and my present conviction do hereby, with the Pledge of My Life, My Liberty, and MY Sacred Honor to this Proclamation by my seal with the thumb do affirm before God Almighty, My King, My Lord, My Liege, My Master, my Surety, my and Man the Truth of these Statements and with and by my Thumb-print




















Want some good reference to case law?
I just watched this finally and loved it...get out pen and pad and be ready to take notes.
Kown your Constitution part 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1882264985077750571#
Another good one is
Michael Badnariks Constitution class on Youtube.com
Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow
This makes me sad
Its like the folks that want to fight the IRS but set up weird little companies and try to beat them at their own game.
It makes me sad that someone has to take so much time and effort to play a messed up game to begin with.
How about we all just start walking around and acting like we are free? Maybe then other people might start acting that way too. - like it was cool or something. Unfortunately, I have noticed the learning curve with being free takes time.
First you recognize that something isn't right. Then you study why its not right. Then you try to fix what isn't right. Then something dawns on you...
so I agree with TargeT's statement. (although I did not look through his links)
do you really think you can
do you really think you can use "their" system and come out a head?
time to rethink your strat.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/128259
let it fail, the beast will destroy itself.
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
time to rethink your strat.
it impossible for it to be destroyed by itself when you are aiding and abetting it, there documents filed against you are not rebutted keep there power enforced.
remember this; "authority comes from ownership"
let it fail, by unplugging the power it has over you first, then you will be able to see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers eye.
thanks for your response!
Wisdom is better than weapons of War.....
once again you are not using there system
your unplugging the power it has over you thats all.
Wisdom is better than weapons of War.....
You ever heard of a thing called prison?
It's hard to uplug from.
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LOL.
The truth hurts and yet I laugh.
A question is worth a book of statements.
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Gramatical mistakes... misspelled words = waste of DP time!
Too many grammatical mistakes and misspelled words to have legal meaning, and therefore and legal basis, clarified intent, actual function, or ultimate legal affect!
Where did you file this? Why? What did it gain you? Who did it prevent from what action? Based upon what specific common law, statute, or state Constitution Section?
Been there, done that? Been to court yet?
The government is comprised of the servants the electorate elects... they are in office to fulfill their duties. Being left in place, or returned to their mire over and over as incumbents, they remain as servant government not impeached or thrown out, notwithstanding they may be criminals who have in most cases violated their oaths!
It does not change the structure, but shames and persecutes the electorate who apparently do not mind the whip!
The electorate are to blame, not the structure. We can be thankful that for the temporal salvation of the freedom and liberty of the electorate, we have just such a structure!
Use it or loose it! The answers are all there! Striking out against the structure is both useless and irrelevant to the battle!
You have a republic! The electorate doing it's/our duty is all that is required to keep it!
grammatical mistakes?
what are you referring to? can you please advise, if there is a mistake correct it don't throw the baby out with the bath water that is insane. no-one is claiming perfection on any document here I, if you can correct something let me know anyone that can't receive correction has a hard learning anything, I've only shown you what worked for me to obtain such status back.
thanks for your response!
Wisdom is better than weapons of War.....
yep been to court lots of times
file it in your local recorder, It gives you full ownership of yourself and yes it works but only if you understand it they can smell a liar quick because they are pro's in the courtroom the only thing that will beat there system is if you speak in truth.
Wisdom is better than weapons of War.....
Can you explain why to file these papers?
I got started, but then just cannot get past the feeling that I am going to the tyrants and begging them to stop being tyrants again. What advantage do I gain by TELLING them I am ignoring their silly "government" over simply ignoring their silly government? (Best I can - they are not a legitimate government, but they are well armed!)
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
well
its a property claim your not begging by any means but telling them...
Wisdom is better than weapons of War.....
I can tell you....
There are many that get their remedy.
Everyday banks file unlawful detainers, trustee sales.
Everyday people use commercial UCC liens to enforce claims...just think how many liens the IRS uses.
And why do they bother giving notice of levy etc?
Why not just go in and do what they want whenever?
Claims are enforced everyday, and if they are not challenged they stand as law. Some people would have you believe it is foolish to stand on your claim, or demand to see a bona fide claim when charges are brought against the US citizen. I say, it would be foolish to continue acting dishonorably in commerce, when, in reality, if we all acted honorably as creditors, we would probably not have to deal with the problems we have today, simply for the common wisdom such etiquette provides.
So..yeah, if I lien ALL the property of my friend (for example) and I have a large private security agreement between us. Anyone attempting to interfere or control or violate the agreement, or confiscate said private property...whoever tries is going to be in alot of trouble. Bank officer, lawyer, judge, police officer, president of any "nation", private "natural person"...it does not matter who. If I have a valid claim against someone, and I have their agreement that allows all their property to be liened if they fail to answer my reply, I can enforce it.
The best defense is a strong offense and once you know how the game really works. All power lies with us, because we can make claims and "they" (whoever in public) cannot make a claim..AT ALL..period.
This puts ALL of us in a VERY powerful position.
(Bear in mind, other private citizens CAN bring forward a claim)(which keeps us in honor)
I am not so sure about the 160 acres part...do you have any sources freedomlvr?
well I hope so, does this help...
Every natural man has the right to make a claim on any land not owned by another natural man or woman.
with this issue brought forward, we can address the facts as you said, they have no standing in court. And after the revolutionary war, we as citizens were able to make any claim of 160 acres we wanted for a ranch, providing no other natural man owned it, to rebut your claim on it.
today things have been confused on this matter, well to the normal person and corporations have ceased up a lot of assets across the world, due to there incorporation's done in delaware due to there laws, concerning corporations, and the protection that these laws provide them, I guess they have found that being incorporated there seems to be good for business for these investors and they seem to get away in way with a lot more so to speak.
being a natural man gives you standing to bring a claim or action against anyone in court thats just simple commerce.
if you break down and get a GPS you can obtain the four corners of the property you want to stake your claim on, if or when you put your claim in document form with the "lot" and "plat" #'s and file it in your local recorder and then if no natural man can rebut it you have your land plain and simple.
if a corporation comes forward ask them for their power of attorney to represent them. then file paper work on the record concerning such and they seem to be real quite and go into default at that time you will not see any of these guys it is when you put liens on there alleged property. concerning any corporation.
Wisdom is better than weapons of War.....
Therein lies the $100,000 question/problem.
Many people have tried to utilize the "Redemption Process" in various situations, legal or otherwise, to no avail. Keep in mind, the redemption process is just one aspect of common law and what some folks are using. The original guy (Roger " "- cannot recall last name) was the first to use this approach in I believe 1991. He has stated that he did it for himself, to get his own personal affairs in order. I do not believe he was all too happy for anyone else to try to repeat what he was doing. Not to mention going off on your own and trying to teach others what they picked up from Roger. Many people ended up in jail due to the aforementioned. I am not discouraging anyone from trying a common law approach and perhaps remedy. With a very strong yet knowledgeable common law background, one may distinguish his or herself with a noted victory in the courtroom or otherwise.
And then what?
Wait for the lawsuits to start rolling in? Or go pick up the patent for your 160 acres? I need to know what the next steps are.
Also, who do I mail it to? Or is it just the kind of thing to carry around in case of trouble with the corporatation?
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Interesting note on
1906: Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43. Defined the distinction between natural persons and corporations as it pertains to 5th Amendment protections within the U.S. Constitution.
"...we are of the opinion that there is a clear distinction in this particular between an individual and a corporation, and that the latter has no right to refuse to submit its books and papers for an examination at the suit of the state. The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the state or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to an investigation, so far as it may tend to criminate him. He owes no such duty to the state, since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights are such as existed by the law of the land
long antecedent to the organization of the state, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his rights are a refusal to incriminate himself, and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure
except under a warrant of the law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights.
Upon the other hand, the corporation is a creature of the state. It is presumed to be incorporated for the benefit of the public. It receives certain special privileges and franchises, and holds them subject to the laws of the state and the limitations of its charter. Its powers are limited by law. It can make no contract not authorized by its charter. Its rights to [201 U.S. 43, 75] act as a corporation are only preserved to it so long as it obeys the laws of its creation. There is a reserved right in the legislature to investigate its contracts and find out whether it has exceeded its powers. It would be a strange anomaly to hold that a state, having chartered a corporation to make use of certain franchises, could not, in the exercise of its sovereignty, inquire how these franchises had been employed, and whether they had been abused, and demand the production of the corporate books and papers for that purpose. The defense
amounts to this: That an officer of a corporation which is charged with a criminal violation of the statute, may plead the criminality of such corporation as a refusal to produce its books. To state this proposition is to answer it. While an individual may
lawfully refuse to answer incriminating questions unless protected by an immunity statute, it does not follow that a corporation, vested with special privileges and franchises, may refuse to show its hand
when charged with an abuse of such privileges. "
Also side-note: Haines vs Kerner, 404 US 519
The court has directed that those who are unschooled in law making pleadings and/or complaints shall have the court look to the substance of the pleadings rather than the form.
(For those unfamiliar with law..it's a good one)
Notice it says in Hale vs Henkle:
"He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited."
We have the un-limited POWER to contract, make counter-offers, control the terms of our contracts...how many have even tried to make counter-offers, learned how to create desireable terms for the contracts we have entered into. Contracting is unlimited and dynamic...everyday we make new contracts whether we are aware or not...every single thing in life is a contract whether we know it or not
My Problem With This
While I applaud the effort and the thought behind, will it in fact do any good in the end? You are assuming that our government will actually honor the laws on which your assertions are founded, but is there any reason to believe that will, in fact, see justice done in this case? Have they not repeatedly and blatantly ignored the Constitution when it didn't suit them?
I hope I am wrong, but I have a feeling that all of the laws of our land will soon be rendered meaningless.
actually the only reason your constitution has been violated
is because of the artificial status they have given everyone in this nation gives them no standing in court, which gives them the authority to do what they have done in this nation, so making a claim as a real person is the key, its not our laws that we are beating them with it is there laws, we have found that there is a way to put them in check by knowing what is going on and how to fix it. this document is giving you standing in a admiralty court. which is all ucc and in fact not our laws at all. Constitutional arguments only have the force if you have standing thats it plain and simple.
I've heard a prosecutor in court filed a motion in response to the 2nd & 4th amendments she stated that they only applied to natural persons only!
this is serious and needs to be fixed but I can't do it all for you...
thanks for your response.
Wisdom is better than weapons of War.....
They are not actually breaking
the "law" in one sense...because we have ignorantly joined the UNITED STATES INC.
And if you don't think they need your personal support, then why do they go through any of the motions whatsoever?
Why wouldn't they just do whatever they wanted?
Because all trade, all agreements, all contracts would immediately be null and void. The entire global structure depends on commerical law. Without the UCC, global trade would grind to a halt overnight. If we cannot be expected to hold up our contracts, how can we expect anyone else to uphold their own.
All law is contract...and if you contract away your constitutional rights, then they can and will walk all over you.
The only thing that courts do is uphold contracts-enforce claims.
If you have a claim on a piece of property, and someone takes it from you after giving you FULL notice, and you do not know how to assert or stand on your claim, you have no claim.
Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI
So if you claim sovernty
How do you function with the gov'ts money & authority over the land & commerce ? Thanks
That is a very complex question
May I suggest a good place to start learning specific answers to that gigantic question?
www.creditorsincommerce.com
hmmmmm...
good question,
only by private necessity.
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Hey...
That's some nice Quantum Language you got there...I have filed some paperwork, but I have done much research since then, and I think I need to modify part of what I originally did, especially thinking in terms of the TRUST.
Maybe tearing this apart will give some more ideas.....Thanks for the post!
Part of my original problem
Was the lien of the real man against the "public entity-person"...the only problem is, the public cannot recognize the "living breathing flesh and blood man"...they can only recognize the ALL CAPS TRUST NAME.
So one good way is to have another "public-person-entity" lien your "public-person-entity" (with security agreement)(can also do vice versa)...therefore placing all your property in trust to another.
So anytime you run into problems, the claim-lien holder can come in and assert their security interest in all your "public-entity-persons" collateral. (including your body-vessel)
Thus, allowing you to operate in the system, yet completely secured in your rights and property as far as you can TRUST the other party to act knowledgeably in your behalf
another way, in conjunction with what you stated
you can beat them in court by making them go into default for not answering your arguments about such a person on the record,
and the use of the all caps name by private necessity only I believe separating myself on record is enough, and truly its only that when your in court this even matters anyway stating facts of supremacy doctrine and use cases like this in court to defend this natural person that you are;
TITLE 15 Section 33, provided that only natural person(s) have immunity from commerce or trade. ["TITLE 15 Section 33, act June 30, 1906, ch. 392034 Stat. 798, "Immunity was to extend only to a natural person who, in obedience to a subpoena, testified or produced evidence."] this why you would need something filed saying you were sovereign;
(1). Howlett v. Rose, 496 U.S. 356 (1990) Federal Law and Supreme Court Cases apply to State Court Cases.
(2). United States v. Olano, 507 U.S. 725, 735 (1993); Rose v. Clark, 478 U.S. 570, 577-78 (1986) (“some constitutional errors require reversal without regard to the evidence in the particular case…[because they] render a trial fundamentally unfair”);
(3). Vasquez v. Hillary, 474 U.S. 254, 263-264 (1986); Chapman v. California, 386 U.S. 18, 23 (1967) (“there are some constitutional rights so basic to a fair trial that their infraction can never be treated as harmless error”).
(4). The Law is a fact and the court is presumed to know the law or where to find it. United States v. Rivero, 532 F.2d 450 (5th Cir. 1976).
(5). (Federal Rules of Evidence 201(d); States clearly that this Plaintiff has a lawful right to proceed without cost, based upon the following law: "The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that a natural individual entitled to relief is entitled to free access to its judicial tribunals and public offices in every State in the Union." (2 Black 620, see also Crandell v. Nevada, 6 Wall 35).
(6). The United States Supreme Court ruled in S.C.R. 1795, Penhallow v. Doane’s Administrators 3 U.S. 54; 1 L.ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54: In as much as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them.
(7). (Hale v. Henkel)( 201 U.S. 43); "Plaintiff should not be charged fees, or costs for the lawful and constitutional right to petition this court in this matter in which he is entitled to relief, as it appears that the filing fee rule was originally implemented for fictions and subjects of the State and should not be applied to the Plaintiff who is a natural individual and entitled to relief "
(8). Hanson v. Deckla, 357 U.S. 235, 256, 78 S.Ct. 1228, 2 L.Ed.2d 1283 (1958). A judgment may not be rendered in violation of Constitutional limits and guarantees.
if you have some different arguments in different cases concerning natural persons i would love to see them.
thanks for your response
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Do you have a good definition of "natural person"?
Because I find it really strange that in the definition (I saw) of the word "person"...(i believe) it says "natural person, individual, organization etc...
I find it difficult to define a word with the same word.
There are other sources, this was just a quick one that explained it in a simpler way.
I read this and makes sense to me..could be wrong though.
Let me know what you think
http://www.omega432.com/person.html
You will never see in any code, State or federal, the word ‘man’ or ‘woman’…or ‘people’—at least I don’t recall having done so—only the juristic, statutory ‘person.’
People are understandably confused about on what I believe to be the correct signification of a particular class of persons, namely, a ‘natural person.’ It is almost always used loosely to refer to the physical, sentient human being. Indeed, in statutory law this is the term of choice for a living man—but always in a qualified sense. At 26 CFR 1.6049-4(f) Definitions we read:
The term natural person means any individual, but shall not include a partnership (whether or not composed entirely of individuals), a trust, or an estate. (Emphasis added.)
Notice carefully how they see it as both possible and necessary to qualify ‘individual.’ If this term stood for a living man, it would be pointless and ridiculous to say that it could not be a trust or an estate! They wouldn’t say that a man shall not include an estate.
So then, we see that ‘person,’ ‘natural person,’ and ‘individual’ are all fictitious legal creations. And, if you acquiesce to being any of them, in a legal setting, you thereby agree that the code addresses and applies to you.
you welcome,
I do believe this will fit your fancy if you need more info just ask me.
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