The Death of "Money Bomb"
Submitted by OctoBox on Fri, 03/19/2010 - 12:24
Tried - clichéd - Zero Efficacy
Can we retire this phrase?
How impotent is this phrase at generating money
----Is it still working?
Everytime I see it go up "Money Bomb" I think of Ali getting beat up (needlessly) by Larry Holmes; who himself cried after the fight, because Ali needed the pay-day.
It's sad, it's un-original, can we move on?
Money Bombs still work
show me one that did not -
all were successful.
don't mess with the success.
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"How can we justify to the unemployed and underemployed in the United States the incredible cost of maintaining a global empire?" - Dr. Ron Paul
You say this
just after Rand Paul takes in over a quarter-million dollars with a money bomb?
Are you disappointed with this result? Do you gauge every money bomb's success against Ron Paul's $6 million, the all-time record?
I think there is still a strong attraction to the idea of dumping a lot of money on a campaign in a short time, especially with interactive media, the automatically refreshing real-time donation charts (http://www.randpaulgraphs.com/). Let's face it, Rand would still lag far behind Trey Grayson were it not for the big lump-sum gains he's received from money bombs. They worked for him and are the envy of every other US Senate campaign around the country.
The magic was not in the name. Many money bombs have been tried that lacked most of the elements of success that went into Ron Paul's first several money bombs: LOTS of excellent grass-roots videos on YouTube, Ron Paul's large mailing list, repeated direct mail and email reminders (was Twitter used much for these?), an outstanding Meetup presence, national scope, and a candidate who spoke startling truths in nationally televised debates that touched the souls of millions of young people.
Replicate all of the above contributing factors and you will see very successful money bombs happen again.
New Hampshire and Ecuador
The OP Thread says what I want it to say
There's no "secret sauce" or mettle to be mind out of it.
Don't tack on emotion that I'm not putting out there; of course I'm happy for Rand.
Money Bomb meant something at one point in time.
$250K is one of the largest since 2008 -- right?
All that being said and done -- I don't think liberty can be obtained by non-free-market methods.
A political lobby is neither entrepreneuralism, intrepreneurliasm, nor charity -- those are the free-market mechanisms that drive liberty.
I just doubt we can derive a free-society by using modalities that don't exist in a free-society.
This is why I tout Community Economics (what I call the Counter-Economics of Misesian Thought) and Localism.
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I got bombed out giving to the Medina campaign. Gotta eat rice
and beans with no fatback for a couple of months. But I`ll be ready for the final elections when the bums get thrown out.
"Since 1789 the only government on Earth that has the power to crush the American people`s liberties across the board is the government of the United States"
Robert Higgs
Well, I don't often say this,
But I have to agree with OctoBox.
When I see the word money-bomb, I get afraid that I have to contribute or I will be totally barred from the revolution if I don't contribute. I mean, I wish I had millions and could give millions to every worthy cause. But I am a man of limited means, I have family financial responsibilities that preclude me from going broke.
In the end, a money-bomb, is the same as a donation, but we should strive to stay young with new ideas.
For instance, to hell with the Tea Parties, lets have a Whiskey Rebellion.
No more money-bombs, lets have a donation drive???
Please Donate Today!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDgz0rODZU&feature=g-upl
"Can we retire this phrase?"
Who is this mysterious "we" you keep talking about?
If money bombs aren't working, it's because they are either done too often or people don't have the interest or money to support them.
Not because of the term.
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
The mysterious "we" is the RP Revolution -- it's not "mysterious
since it was "us" who coined the phrase.
There was nothing remotely "collectivist" about this inquiry, hahaha.
And yes I'm suggesting that "money bombs" have been used so often that the phrase no longer "rouses" people.
A perfect example was how I said nearly a year ago that the "establishment" (led by Glenn Beck) would hijack the phrase Tea Party and try to co-opt the "movement."
When you see "Tea Party" does it have the same connotation and aren't "we" beginning to not use it as a representative phrase for "our" efforts?
The efficacy of the phrase is gone -- the efficacy of "money bomb" is gone too; it sounds "tired" and "trite"
The RP Revolution are the innovators -- we are the young-minded entreperneurs; we are the trend setters.
"We" - "We" - "We"
;-)
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At this point the name "money
At this point the name "money bomb" is widely known around the community, even by people who donated once back during the campaign but haven't stuck around in these off-election years. I say stick with it because of the name recognition....unless someone comes up with a really good one.
Freedom Pot
Freedom Pot - The storms ending, and there's Freedom at the end of the Rainbow. Maybe an animation of Leprechauns dancing around a pot of Gold (probably St. Patty's day influence here)
Or how about:
Freedom - Buy the ticket, ride the ride.
These sound like great names for movies starring Bruce Willis
....
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Money Missle
Donation Detonation
Get out your Peace Visa
Your Change for Our change
Booty bomb (the other kind of booty, LOL)
United Fund for the Politically Retarded
Blowup Doll-ars
Dinero for De-neo-conification (is that too long?)
Cash Crash
Give it up for Freedom
More?
"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k
Hahahaha Thundercloud
"Dinero to De-Neo"
I love that ;-)
Of course my thread is a little mis-leading; yes I'm tired of the "Money Bomb" phrase, but I'm also against the whole idea of voting and lobbying too.
But, it would be nice as I try to convince people of this to see "Dinero to De-Neo" hahahahaha -- I might even kick in a few bucks if it was solely for Ron Paul (there needs to be one public educator in office)
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Don't worry
By the time statist politicians catch up to the "money bomb", C4L will have come up with something else.
Blimpy: No one wants the "money bomb" because it was effective
only during the first 2/3rds of RP's campaign -- after that by mid 2008 it was all but dead; in fact it might of been closer to March when the numbers started going flat.
Does anyone have some statistics showing the first money bomb to the most recent -- a chart or list of numbers raised.
What's the average?
The "real" politicians will have a war chest of 100's of millions and they "all" know about the internet now.
We need a new model they can't follow -- because what we do and recommend is tied to free-market theory; rather than our current method-of-madness which is to try to make corporatism work.
Ballot Boxes (where everyone has the vote) were created around the time that Corporatism began.
It's a Capitalist Migration to Corporatist Tool
----Not a Corporatist Migration to Free-Market Tool
The Free-Market Tool is called Consumption (that's it).
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They tanked during the last 1/3
because the campaign was on its last legs and still depending on the original donors, right?
Hmm, how about a money tree?
For every one person that wants to give $50, instead contact 5 people and ask them to give $10?
Or 10 people giving $5?
That accomplishes the dual mission of donations + education.
Now that's not a bad idea! -- Blimpy
:-)
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Marco Rubio
Marco Rubio has used a money bomb and is a neocon
Tim
Over used.
I am more likely to donate when I see it though. but lets take this month we have Jake Towne, YAL, Rand Paul, the Peace blimp and I feel like I'm missing one. Its a little much. I say keep doing them because DPer's and others like us are so used to them and will donate more but at the same time we have to limit how much there it can be overwhelming.
Tim
end of March FEC reporting ends
that is why so many candidates strive to get some money now.
April will be quiet.
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"How can we justify to the unemployed and underemployed in the United States the incredible cost of maintaining a global empire?" - Dr. Ron Paul
that makes sense
I guess Towne will get my last donation.
Tim
...???...
..."The Death of "Money Bomb""...
..."Tried-cliched-Zero Efficacy"...
..."It's sad, It's un-original, can we move on?...
...hahahahahaahahahahaha...
...Um, NO, but you can certainly "move on"...and don't let the Money Bomb Bay doors hit you on the way out... ;D
RON2012PAUL...The r3VOLution continues...
"I always win"
http://youtu.be/Xtl2ZuJpG9M
+GOLD and SILVER are money+
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThisIsRogueLiberty
Okay Rogue: Enjoy your "Liberty Flakes"
........hahahaha
My man is living in a Free-Society because of Money Bombs.
How does it feel Money? How's life in the Free-World; oh snap! You ain't free Money? You're not in a Free-Society?
Whoa - Whoa - Whoa, Money - are you saying that Voting and Lobbying has never worked once in all human history to free a people?
Baaaahhhhhh
The wheels on your scooter might be smokin' and the cards in your spokes might be flamin' but the tour de france your NOT winnin'
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
they are popular for a reason, some are just better than others.
I'm more inclined to donate when its a well planned event.
unfortunately there are more 'bomb's' then money :p
The DP is proof that the grassroots support for Ron Paul and his peaceful message of individual liberty is large, real, and not going away!
it is overused!
we should try to reserve the term money bomb for the big ones. use like cash grenade for the various donation dates for the various candidates.
can you tell me of one Money Bomb that was not a success?
Money Bombs work and every one of them brings us closer to Liberty.
They create excitement draw attention to the rEVOLution bring new people and traffic to Daily Paul.
Don't mess with the success!
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"How can we justify to the unemployed and underemployed in the United States the incredible cost of maintaining a global empire?" - Dr. Ron Paul
Legalizeliberty: I don't mean to be a bummer
but how are we closer to liberty?
I define liberty by free-markets, entrepreneurialism, the tax-rate, and consumer-energization.
By everyone of those measures we are moving away from liberty and not towards it.
Unless you are saying we are approaching a precipice; but that's not liberty is it -- it's no-mans land.
We can't vote or lobby our way into liberty -- it's never worked once in all human history; it's a shell game.
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Octobox
it is not just about winning elections but also about educating people along the way -
this time in human history it will work - that is my faith.
every person that wakes up and comes on our side is one less enemy to deal with - and Liberty candidates help us in this process.
have you read some of Jake Towne's articles?
please do so at his website.
peace*))
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"How can we justify to the unemployed and underemployed in the United States the incredible cost of maintaining a global empire?" - Dr. Ron Paul
Legalizeliberty: I define "faith" as
"belief born from experience of truth"
Maybe you don't and that's cool.
But for me "faith" in something that has never before proven to work is more like blind-belief.
Which fits into my "we are blind consumers" argument.
We are blind to the fact that our voting and lobbying (in a free-society) is handled at the Point of Sale.
To create another venue to vote and lobby is to abdicate self-rule; given that the individual is the consumer and not the voter.
Liberty is the protection of the individual -- therefore the protection of the consumer.
The consumer is only free if Workers and Owners have no authority (a way around consumer-will) -- voting / lobbying (at the ballot box).
We should be educating (I agree) -- however, the education should be over Localism and Community-Economics; which I've spelled out 100 times on DP.
I'm open to an equal-to or greater than model; but the only thing DP comes up with is "other" ways to get people elected.
Let's innovate the Localism and Consumer-Sovereingty argument -- it'd be a first in human history.
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Thanks - some good points you made
but listen I am not objective here because I am working as a volunteer in Jake Towne's campaign and I also create Money Bomb events...
I am off to activist threads.
see you later -
peace*))
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"How can we justify to the unemployed and underemployed in the United States the incredible cost of maintaining a global empire?" - Dr. Ron Paul
Oh -- I'm sorry; if I'd had known that I would of not pushed
the topic with you.
Good Luck ;-)
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