Washington Times: Impeach The President?
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/19/impeach-the-pres...
The 'Slaughter Solution' would violate the Constitution
The Democrats are assaulting the very pillars of our democracy. As the debate on Obamacare reaches the long, painful end, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is confronting a political nightmare. She may not have the 216 votes necessary to pass the Senate's health care bill in the House.
Hence, Mrs. Pelosi and her congressional Democratic allies are seriously considering using a procedural ruse to circumvent the traditional constitutional process. Led by Rep. Louise M. Slaughter, New York Democrat and chairman of the House Rules Committee, the new plan - called the "Slaughter Solution" - is not to pass the Senate version on an up-or-down vote. Rather, it is to have the House "deem" that the legislation was passed and then have members vote directly on a series of "sidecar" amendments to fix the things it does not like.
This would enable House Democrats to avoid going on the record voting for provisions in the Senate bill - the "Cornhusker Kickback," the "Louisiana Purchase," the tax on high-cost so-called "Cadillac" insurance plans - that are reviled by the public or labor-union bosses. If the reconciliation fixes pass, the House can send the Senate bill to President Obama for his signature without ever having had a formal up-or-down vote on the underlying legislation.
Many Democrats could claim they opposed the Senate bill while allowing it to pass. This would be an unprecedented violation of our democratic norms and procedures, established since the inception of the republic. Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution stipulates that for any bill to become a law, it must pass both the House of Representatives and the Senate. That is, not be "deemed" to have passed, but actually be voted on with the support of the required majority.
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I have always believed
that Obama was / is being USED by the evil ones to A) Ram the end game through and B) Go down in flames making the SHEEP feel that they have "done something" (i.e. had their "revolution"). Thus the bad guys get the disgruntled masses under their control and get their agenda.
I believe this because of this issue of the "birth certificate" and all that this entails. WHY, given the access that these people have to all areas of government, was this issue not CLEANED UP long ago? It would be NOTHING for them to manufacture an OFFICIAL birth cert, passport, etc. and an entire PAST for this guy. BUT THEY DIDN'T. They have set up an idiot narcissist by offering him the power and prestige he always wanted... but have purposefully left themselves a way to take him down whenever they want.
(For you movie buffs,...Think of the Duke brothers in "Trading Places". )
Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."
Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs
who knows
I guess we will have to wait and see what happens -
is he going to be a scapegoat a sacrificial lamb?
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Agreed!
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Washington Times?
For Freedom!
STUGOTS! To the high and felutent establishment!
Paultian Powerhouse!
Pelosi belongs in jail. She
Pelosi belongs in jail. She is trying to ram Communist Health Care down our throats. The American people don't want it. The Congress knows that the people don't want it. They have been getting beat up at their town hall meetings. Many of them are not running for re-election. Several states are planning to sue the federal government if Communist Health Care passes.
And yet, Pelosi is threatening to act as if this power grab was passed by the House! She needs to serve another term - in Leavenworth!
Money!
We need to go after those behind the throne. The ones who put Mac Daddy in office. This illegal nobody from god knows where is just as stupid as NP. I hope you don't really think it was votes that got him where he is.
Where did the Mac Daddy come from and who fronted for him. One guess they are in Oil and Banking. They are always running things behind the curtain. Lets pull the curtain back and expose the real fraud. Give them all nice vacations in leavenworth prison making big rocks into small ones. After we give them a little non-health care.
Hell The "Deemed" Obama Eligible For The Presidency...
this is about par for the course...
http://www.dailypaul.com/152976/diebold-vs-paper-ballots
http://www.ncel.w4sp.com/
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
http://www.votefraud.org/
http://www.hulu.com/hacking-democracy
Impeach him! How about put him on trial & hang him for treason?
And Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., and Carter also. All trashed the Constitution and did not look back.
"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley
one comment under that article says
"m_b
Ummm, we've used this solution at least five times in the past eight years. Why was nobody crying about it then?"
i'm so effing tired and sick of reading comments like these.. "where were you libertarians and independents under bush?" "where were you during iraqi war?" "why are you crying now?" "this is BUSH's war"
so wtf is the argument, that we keep doing this from administration to administration to no end? i can seriously imagine some effing logic-bankrupt scrawny moron typing this. another side mentality of the socialistic "i wanna be the same as everyone else, oh look it's been done before so i have companies and it is ok" thinking?
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ALLOWED ALL THIS TO HAPPEN !!
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ELECTED THE ALIEN PRESIDENT..THEY VOTED FOR THEIR CONGRESS PEOPLE AND THEY PAY LIP SERVICE TO MAKING POSITIVE CHANGES...
"THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ALLOW THE LEVEL OF TYRANNY THEY ARE WILLING TO LIVE UNDER" ~ THOMAS JEFFERSON..
Since that's true
What we did, we can undo.
IMissLiberty
I don't think a sitting U.S President will ever be
"impeached" -- sure impeach the first black president; regardless of the lunacy of "the first" anything argument, it's not the president who causes problems.
I think if we (at least on the daily paul) do not come to the realization that the president is never the issue, he is the butterfly sipping nectar on top of the weed; it's the weed, rather the root of the weed that is the problem.
The individual is never the problem; the individual is the solution.
Jesus said, "know ye not that ye are Gods"
What would he say as we strive to put one man or one woman in a particular office -- Are we acting like "gods;" let alone presidents.
Maybe we should all be the president -- isn't that what self-rule is?
If that's the case then would individualist busy themselves with the effect of the individual (the president in this case)? Nooo.
They focus on themselves.
Liberty is when everyone focuses on themselves and their immediate family and community.
Impeaching the president in hope of, what???
---It's as anti-climatic as a mug.
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
Clinton
Clinton was impeached by the House.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton
http://FlipFlopRomney.blogspot.com
Hahahaha
That was "all" Theatre mate.
Since they are all oath-breakers they put on a good show of "kicking him out"
Only Ron Paul was genuine; the others were play acting for all of yall.
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
Thats Not What Rassmussen Polls Are Predicting Octobox
You don't get around much do you?
http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/11/29/rasmussen-polls-indic...
Rasmussen polls indicate Orange Revolution by July 2011
PUBLIC’S GROWING IRE AND MELTING SUPPORT FOREBODE DIRE END TO OBAMA REGIME
They are predicting open rebellion and ousting of Obama within 1.5 years but I think it will be sooner...
http://www.dailypaul.com/152976/diebold-vs-paper-ballots
http://www.ncel.w4sp.com/
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
http://www.votefraud.org/
http://www.hulu.com/hacking-democracy
Assuming the Poll is Accurate and...
the reasoning of the linked to article is correct that Obama could essentially have a 0% approval rating in 18 months -- there is still something not at all clear in the article.
I have friends from all sides of the political spectrum. Those on the so called 'left' are starting to disapprove of him not because he violates the Constitution as much as he does, but because he doesn't violate it enough! They are also upset with him for continuing the same war mentality as the last tyrannt. Then you look to the so called 'right', and those self contradictory fools disapprove because he isn't pro-war enough... then the idiots turn clean around and complain how he violates the Constitution.
So what we have, ladies and gentlemen, is a nation of fools who deserve a fool in the White House. Some disliked him already and their distaste only grows, while others used to like him and now they don't. In either case, they like him less and less, but they generally don't like him (50% of the time) because he isn't enough of a fool, not because he is.
Bravo!
Perfect summary of the situation.
..."So what we have, ladies and gentlemen, is a nation of fools who deserve a fool in the White House. Some disliked him already and their distaste only grows, while others used to like him and now they don't. In either case, they like him less and less, but they generally don't like him (50% of the time) because he isn't enough of a fool, not because he is."
OUR goal has to be to "clean up" this "messy" thinking. You either believe in following the Constitution or you DON'T. No exceptions for WAR or WELFARE. This is what will take time and no impeachment will do any good if the same messy thinking is used to replace the bad "leader",
Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."
Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs
Exactly!
Which is why the grassroots effort is so vital to spread this movement. Any other approach will be that "little ol' ant, trying to move a rubber tree plant"... We need millions more ants, and the evil will fall in the right direction. In our current atmosphere, 360 million ants will all be working to make the evil fall in one stupid direction or another. With the end result being more crushed ants and a new sprouting evil.
and, and, and--
these "liberty loving people" will only be allowed by *them* to oust someone if *they* want it--
*bah*
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
but, what would be the point, since--
Obama is just a puppet?
Dick and Henry and all the other nasty people would just keep doing what they are doing with a new puppet--
Obama didn't start this--
this is just the same old Democrat/Republican 'debate'--
same old.
There was talk of impeaching Bush, and it didn't happen. Why should Obama be impeached when Bush wasn't?
If he is impeached he will be, merely, a scapegoat. Will that, then, satisfy the 'people's' need for revenge, and then "things" can go back to "normal"--
Barak Obama was a sudden happening, and things were going drastically wrong before he SUDDENLY showed up to be 'the change'--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
Has Rassmussen been wrong before
What's the statistical sampling size?
The "Obama Regime" -- it's so ludricus to think one man is causing all this mess; it's absurd.
He was hired by the Banking Cartel to "continue" to steal as much money for them as possible.
As was all the presidents back to Eisenhower (the first neoconservative president -- if only a reluctant one).
I'm sure they had their hand in it since Hamilton as well.
But powerfully so since Eisenhower.
To think Obama actually has a plan of his own is to give the man way way way too much credit.
Think of the president as a dart board -- you can burn the dart board, wear it out; but the game does not die with it.
It will cost 1,000,000,000 to get that man out of office, maybe even $10,000,000,000 and to only be replaced by the "evil they's" alternative???
You can't get Free-Market Justice by usinga Corporatist Jury System, hahaha. Oxy-Moronic
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
One Way Or The Other He Will Be Taken Down And Will Not
finish his first term...as far as the puppet masters (bankers) their days are numbered and their death knell is ringing as we speak just a matter of a little more time. The game they played was very dangerous and now they cannot control it and the global awareness of the crimes they have committed is out of their control now...I see a day coming soon when they will be shot on sight in the streets like the dogs they are...
http://www.dailypaul.com/152976/diebold-vs-paper-ballots
http://www.ncel.w4sp.com/
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
http://www.votefraud.org/
http://www.hulu.com/hacking-democracy
The one truth about an angry revolution is they
never learn from past revolutions.
"shot in the street like dogs" -- really?
The upper 1% control everything right?
----3,000,000 people.
Each with 10 unique (non-1%) friends or family
----30,000,000 people.
I think "they" will find plenty of places to hide.
Violent Revolution always ends with "Bigger" Gov't; if you want to use all Human History as a looking glass.
If a violent cue starts its because "they" want it to.
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
Violent Revolution is as you say...
The chaos caused by the WWI treaty with Germany, and the Weimar Republic monetary crash was what brought in "the Third Reich". Tyranny in spades.
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
Point taken....
and I understand about the three branches of government but, for a long time now the political parties have ran the show with no regard to the constitutional process. Obama is head of the democratic? party and gets what he wants, primarily through intimidation. The health care debacle is a good example. Impeach Obama? Absolutely, and I don't care what color he is...He is a liar and a traitor as far as I am concerned....and by the way, where is the justice? department when you need them....
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I have one word for you...predator drones. Oh, you think I'm kidding?" Obombya
No I know you are not racist -- Nor is anyone on DP for
suggesting it -- however; it will be perceived that way (regardless).
Obama is just a figure head -- he has no power whatsoever; unless you think the "evil they" put random politicians in power of "their" empire?
The winner is chosen years before election day -- they might make it sporting by picking 5 equal-to candidates and let the citizens chose the Red Fed-Candidate or the Blue Fed-Candidate or the Yellow or the Pink or the Grey.
It doesn't matter because they are all Banking Candidates -- including and especially Obama.
I mean if Obama was impeached his Vice President would be put in office, smile. Or maybe Hillary.
I just don't know what the billion dollars to get it done would achieve.
Save waste more of "our" time (DPers) -- remember the crazed Bush Impeachment threads; "oh yeah, we almost got 'em."
With all the money and the time we could of created an RP Entrepreneurial Club and everyone of us would be a millionair right now; and then in a position to make a dynamic difference.
I'm just sayin'
*&^ Constitution --- Constitutional Rationality
I see your point and agree...
but, why not start "severely punishing" THEIR shills (each and every one) for high crimes of treason until such time as we are able to get to the "puppet masters"? We need to keep these "people" on the defensive...
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I have one word for you...predator drones. Oh, you think I'm kidding?" Obombya
what a sunny thought--
*they* would just keep setting out new 'pins' to be bowled over.
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
"but, we were just following orders..."
As the Nazi generals were dropped through the gallows.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I have one word for you...predator drones. Oh, you think I'm kidding?" Obombya
Excellent article but...
while slamming the dems for their misdeeds they left out the republicrats who are just as guilty...I say impeach them all!
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I have one word for you...predator drones. Oh, you think I'm kidding?" Obombya