Alert: Hightimes ad funding at 33%, deadline Friday!
* This is a magazine with a circulation of 206,000
* It is an audience receptive to Dr. Paul's positions
* The ad is highly targeted to the magazine's audience
* This is a full page, full color ad
* We can get great page placement
All of this for $3600. The problem is the deadline is Friday if we want to get it in the January issue (the only one in time for registration).
Here is the ad (not the final draft):
http://www.global-netventures.com/defcreativepaulad50.jpg
Here is the ChipIn:
http://ronpaulht.chipin.com/hightimes-full-page-ron-paul-ad
And here is a message board thread about it:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=51104
Help get this highly targeted ad in! This is our last chance for a targeted magazine ad for the primaries.
Hightimes gave a discount,
Hightimes gave a discount, but I'm not sure if legally they are allowed to do more than that. Remember the trouble the New York times got in for running Democrat ads at a cheap rate?
I am dissapointed they aren't talking about Ron Paul as much as they should, and am dissapointed in NORML for not endorsing him. But in the end this ad is for the READERS of Hightimes, not for hightimes itself. We want thier votes, we want thier donations. And as a side bonus, we will convert a few socialists to the true liberty of respect for property rights.
Oh yeah, 81% funded! Let's
Oh yeah, 81% funded! Let's push this through today!
And in denfense of Hightimes, they are giving us prime page placement.
I wanted to discuss a High Times cover shoot with Ron Paul.
Just last week I suggested to a member of the high times editorial staff that they should have Ron Paul on the cover... This guy I corresponded with isn't the one who makes that call and ultimately wouldn't have any say in the decision but he was pretty adamant that he doesn't support Ron Paul... felt necessary to add that he didn't believe Ron Paul has a chance in hell of winning? Yet he did say that his mind wasn't made up but still are we going to let them make that decision?
Ron Paul has championed the cause of votehemp.org in support of farmers struggling to make a livable wage. He's for free market economic principles and reducing our trade deficit.
All can be accomplished with just a few short strokes of his pen when he gets into office..
Let's make this a reality and work toward making the world a better place for our future generations then the one left for us.
if high times had any integrity
If High Times had any integrity, they'd run an ad for Ron Paul for free. If they don't have an integrity, then I have no interest in giving them money.
The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt
On December 13th, 2007 MBA
On December 13th, 2007 MBA says:
Since when is a magazine illegal?
If it were, don't you think they'd have raided all the Borders and Barnes and Noble book sellers.... -------------------------
I never said the magazine was illegal please read my answers properly.
What i said was that i can see the headline in the MSM about this.
RON PAUL RUNS ADS IN ILLEGAL DRUG MAGAZINE.
Now you did exactly what most people that see this will do : spin and confuse the actual statement
The statement and headline is Illegal drug not illegal magazine but you looked at it as i said the magazine was illegal : THIS WAS THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE :
Listen people i am all for making marijuana legal although i will not use it
Henry ford in the 50's i think the 50's anyway made a car entirely out of hemp and it was 12 times lighter than steel buy also 10 times as strong and virtually indestructable including the windows also the entire car was fueled and ran on 100% hemp seed oil which can still be done today and would end our need for foreign oil.
The declration of independence was made from hemp paper which is why it has lasted over 200 years
Clothes are made from hemp and last almost for ever
These are not the issues for the issue is what people will perceive and what the media will try to paint it as : NEGATIVE.
I am advising against it however it seems it will run anyway and then you can see what impact it has.
High Times isn't for ending the drug war..
The reason this whole ad makes sense is because this is the quintessential move for sticking it to the man.
High Times magazine profits from marijuana's illegality.
Do you think they want to see legalization? Hell no... Just like Norml doesn't want to see it either... Do you think they're looking for the day that President Ron Paul says no more black market for cannabis?
They'd be packing up and heading home!
There was a story a few months back about the Medical Marijuana Dispensaries in California offering to cover the State of California's Budget Shortfall if afforded the protections of the state from the feds... A state where medical marijuana is already legally allowed.
Check out the Drew Carey Project on Reason.tv
http://reason.tv/video/show/57.html
Smell that, that's the smell of freedom..
I don't think NORML wants to keep marijuana illegal...
Considering that they are a 30-year-old *non-profit* organization. NORML = National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Law. They do active work every single day to get it legalized. NORML can't wait to "packing up and heading home". High Times magazine helps them out all the time with free events and publicity. Neither will endorse any particular presidential candidate because that is not their purpose, just like many other organizations. But they have Ron Paul and others in interviews all the time. I'm pretty sure that a free ad for RP is a campaign donation.
Secondly, how would High Times lose money if marijuana was legal? That doesn't make much sense, since they talk about good buds, growing, and have ads for paraphenalia. All those things would be a lot easier to maike money from if they were legal.
Colony... Confederation... Republic... Nation-state... Empire... Colony...
Colony... Confederation... Republic... Nation-state... Empire... Colony...
30 years they've been
30 years they've been fighting and yet it's still illegal?
Damn... almost as good as a government job.
If you're serious about reform and want to make some serious noise, get active with http://www.mpp.org
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The Marijuana Policy Project, the largest and fastest-growing marijuana policy reform organization in the United States, is working with actors, musicians, producers, directors, professional athletes, former and current public officials, and other VIPs to educate the American people about the need to take marijuana out of the criminal market and regulate it.
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Readers and member
High Times readers are for ending the war on drugs.
NORML members are for ending the war.
Simple.
Let's reach them.
Pay for ad????
The people at Hightimes should run the ad for FREE! Knowing Dr. Paul's stance on the drug war, you would think these people finally have a candidate that respects their individual freedoms. Dr. Paul is their ONLY hope! Believe me, when NORML endorsed Dr. Paul, word spread faster than a contact buzz at a Dead show. All us stoners know Dr. Paul is the only candidate to vote for and I'm just praying that the 20-80 million Americans will put down the bong long enough to get to the primaries! But, I don't think its wise to post this secret weapon all over the MSM, because Dr. Paul is constantly smeared by "association".
Ron Paul...
Look at it this way. Freedom is great, it is contagious, we all know that, but we need as many people to vote for Ron Paul as we can. What happens when Huckabee doesn't get the nomination? Those people have to vote for someone. I personally believe the number of potential Huckabee voters far outweighs the circulation numbers, or this magazine, international and national combined. That is just an example. Think about all the other people who support other candidates. Most of them have believed drugs are bad for a long time.
Use your head. Ron Paul detests drugs. He is for legalizing them based on the freedom aspect. People will have a hard enough time wraping their brains around that concept. If you put a picture of RP's face in a magazine next of a pot leaf you are potentially doing way more harm than good. People are very visual, the media knows it and will exploit this.
Anyone that is a user of drugs, who is interested in politics will stumble across Ron Paul in good time. He is the ONLY one who supports this idea. Everyone else is dead set against it.
Being an active supporter is one thing, but pulling your money together to slander Dr. Paul's image by picturing him in a pot magazine is something totally different. If there was a readership of millions, in this country, I could understand, but for less than a hundred thousand of elligible voters. I wouldn't chance it.
You are talking 3600 bucks tell the campaign about it and if they want to place an ad, they can. Dr.Paul has to sign off on all ads.
-See you in NH 1/3 - 1/7...
"Make fun buddy..." - Ron Paul
You're absolutely incorrect..
Ron Paul. He's been the only consistent voice when it comes to this message...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHS_y94H1Dk
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ron+paul%2Bmedic...
Seen it dude...
There are bigger fish to fry. You absolutely missed the entire point of my post. Listen to Tucker Carlson when he is talking to Ron Paul about the legalization of pot. Tucker asked him something like, "So it sounds like you use pot a lot. Ron Paul looked at me as if I had a second head." It went something like that.
Ron Paul supports the use of medical marijuana, he supports peoples ability to choose if they want to use marijuana.
He does not use marijuana.
One has to pick their battles. Look how hard it is for some to agree with his idea to pull out of our army bases. That is common sense stuff and people still don't get it.
Why are we doing a money bomb? So the MSM will cover the story and lots of people will notice the support and the message. If there is an ad with Ron Paul's picture in a pot magazine that profits because of illegal drug use, the media will notice that too, but all the grannies and soccer moms will have a slightly different opinion of Dr. Paul.
I completely understand your point, and in a perfect world we wouldn't have to worry about this stuff, but we all know it isn't a perfect world, and this issue isn't the issue that will carry Dr. Paul into the Oval Office.
-See you in NH 1/3 - 1/7...
"Make fun buddy..." - Ron Paul
Christians don't support drugs?
We're talking about a plant and an economically viable solution to the problems of carbon emissions. We're talking about a therapeutic medicine that even Big Pharma has hopes will generate their next blockbuster discoveries.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cannabinol+efficacy&btn...
Christians and drugs
I'm a Christian, and I support a complete end to the federal war on drugs.
There's a difference between supporting drug use, and supporting an end to the federal war on drugs. Just like there's a difference between supporting terrorism and supporting an end to the federal "war on terrorism". Because the war on terrorism does little to combat terrorism, but does steal tax money from citizens and completely degrade their inalienable civil rights. So does the "war on drugs". Both need to stop.
- JB
The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt
High Times?
I agree with govtpig. Putting an ad in High Times may reach a few people that haven't heard of him but it could also be another way for old media and the other candidates to attack him. Besides, I have a feeling that most people who subscribe to High Times are already Ron Paul supporters.
I do not think this add is a
I do not think this add is a good idea. It WILL be talked about in the MSM and will make Paul look bad to Christians and those(majority of Americans) that oppose drugs.
Live Free Or Die
I am willing to die, are you?
High Times is not a "drugs" magazine...
High Times is a pot magazine. 80% of the American public, Christian or not, think that the war on drugs is a failure. And, "In 2004, 14.6 million Americans age 12 and older used marijuana at least once" - and that comes straight from the drug warriors themselves (http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html). Sounds like a pretty big audience to me.
More, solid info about the drug war can be found here: http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths
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This is what we're up against..Why I support this ad.
The only way we can have a serious discussion regarding this issue in America is to bring these issues to the forefront in the primary.
In the state I reside in, a bill was introduced to allow medical cannabis. A statewide poll indicated that 80% of our state's constituents support it.
Yet, even though a bill was sponsored by a republican legislator, the state assembly failed to act in accordance with the population's overwhelmingly supportive view.
Don't be too harsh to Dr. Steve.
I can definitely understand Dr. Steve's inhibitions about the ad. Remember we're all on the same side and he wouldn't be here if he thought the government should be able to rule our bodies.
"It's all just a ride"
-Bill Hicks-
"It's all just a ride"
-Bill Hicks-
Just $900.00 more needed?
Just $900.00 more needed to make this a reality and bring Ron Paul's message of liberty home!!
$500 - 71%
donated.
PLEASE post a photo when magazine is released.
Excellent..
Thank you for your support!
It's not about whether or not you use marijuana, it's about the fact that neither the government nor anyone else should have a right to tell you you can't.
I still think this is a great idea.
The facts and logic are on our side. Do you think that people will really buy the Ron Paul supports drugs spin? Aside from that, High Times is 100% legal, someone earlier said that it was an illegal magazine. I really don't think they've gotten to the point they can illegalize knowledge. As long as it is made clear that Dr. Paul spent nothing on this and didn't authorize it he will not be the focus of hitjobs. I don't really think that anyone who supports Dr. Paul now would pack up and leave because they found out that he believes individual rights apply to stoners too. The media wont report on this to be honest with you. There are 70 million people who have smoked marijuana in America. The last thing the Msm wants is those people knowing that a guy with a chance of winning would legalize it. If he did happen to catch flak for it, it would just energize the stoner crowd. If Hannity, Billo, or any of the other trash out there b.s. facts we could have leap up their asses in a second. If you haven't already, throw a bone to those guys; they are the best allies we have fighting prohibition for the mere fact that the media can't just call them potheads like the guys from norml and the mpp. As a matter of fact, norml and the Mpp would be great allies. We maybe should contact them to see if they would mind sending leaflets to their members. You guys have grown too scared of the MSM! Stand up for what you believe in! If they lie, they lie. Remember what we're doing here, this is the last stand for liberty in this nation. If we don't keep our integrity and tell the truth and run solely on it's merit we have no chance. The moment we start trying to control Dr. Paul's image and hide his views because we believe that the truth will not stand on it's own, we become those eight other guys. Think about why you "got" Dr. Paul's message when you did. It's because he will tell the truth, even to people who don't wish to hear it. Just like in Miami the other night with the issues of sanctions on Cuba. If the truth has become so libelous that we're afraid to tell it; it's time to revolt.
"It's all just a ride"
-Bill Hicks-
"It's all just a ride"
-Bill Hicks-
legalize drugs?! wait a minute.
this is not a bad idea, but FIRST, you need to CREATE A PAC TO DO THIS WITHOUT BREAKING CAMPAIGN RULES, correct me when i'm wrong.
second, there is probably a better way to gain votes on this issue by way of a magazine ad placement than putting a ron paul/medical marijuana ad in high times magazine. although, if you get the PAC & get this funded, more power to you.
what i propose we do is put an ad in popular mechanics magazine touting the overwhelming wave of positive benefits that would result even just from allowing industrial hemp to be grown domestically. (i have heard that the united states of america is the only nation in which industrial hemp production is illegal, although there was a time in our history when it was MANDATORY to grow it.)
let's put a ron paul ad in "popular mechanics" magazine & other magazines citing leverageable excerpts from THEIR OWN ARTICLE FROM 1938 titled: "the new billion dollar crop" & other relevant facts.
just google: NEW BILLION-DOLLAR CROP Popular Mechanics 1938 -
to read the article in its entirety.
"the new billion dollar crop"
"From the farmers' point of view, hemp is an easy crop to grow and will yield from three to six tons per acre on any land that will grow corn, wheat, or oats. It has a short growing season, so that it can be planted after other crops are in. It can be grown in any state of the union. The long roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for the next year's crop. The dense shock of leaves, eight to twelve feet above the ground, chokes out weeds. Two successive crops are enough to reclaim land that has been abandoned because of Canadian thistles or quack grass."
in fact, there IS NOT ANOTHER CAMPAIGN ISSUE THAT drug de-regulation WOULDN'T AFFECT IN A POWERFULLY POSITIVE WAY.
aside from legalizing medical marijuana & allowing the states to decide otherwise.
in *four months* ONE ACRE OF HEMP CAN GROW TO PRODUCE the equivalent in textile fiber of OVER 4 ACRES OF TREES with YEEEEARS required to grow. & hemp *improves* THE SOIL FOR FUTURE CROPS.
it has been said that we would NEVER HAVE TO CHOP DOWN ANOTHER TREE AGAIN if industrial hemp were allowed as a crop in the united states.
FOOD, MEDICINE, HOUSES, CARS, CLOTHES, AGRICULTURE - *AMERICAN MANUFACTURING JOBS*
yes, manufacturing jobs, IN AMERICA. WOW, RIGHT?!!
henry ford's first automobile was supposedly made of hemp fiber which has an impact strength many times that of STEEL.
JACK HERER, of jackherer.com has a pay-day challenge on his website, he first offered $10,000 dollars years ago which he raised to $100,000 for YEARS - offering this amount to ANYONE WHO CAN PROVE THAT HEMP BASED ETHANOL CANNOT *ENTIRELY ELIMINATE OUR DEPENDANCY ON PETROLEUM OIL!*
we need to make ron paul ads & commercials that will rock the facts about industrial hemp & medical marijuana & spread it far & wide because it's been the government's job to brainwash people against it for decades.
this issue is HUGE.
our failure to embrace THE TRUTH is destroying our future; FEAR OF & OF TRUTH, BEGETTING MASSIVE IGNORANCE is destroying our future. fear has been big business for too long. it's time to CHANGE that by bashing the status quo with powerful positive truth.
lets put a RON PAUL AD in POPULAR MECHANICS MAGAZINE WITH EXCERPTS FROM POPULAR MECHANIC'S OWN 1938 ARTICLE: "THE NEW BILLION DOLLAR CROP"
Great message for Iowa
Till your land taken out due to the "farm bill" with hemp.
Get paid while you till organically.
there are better ways to put our money to work
this is giving ammunition to our opponents and it will
solidify our image as extremists and drug users;
of course everyone is welcome to use their money
as they see fit, but if media get hold of this, they'll
have a field day
tolerance towards drug users is part of RP message,
but not the principal part
let's not paint ourselves in the wrong light
Have you learned nothing from Ron Paul?
The message is all about freedom baby!
Why are you trying to curtail our liberties?
Painting ourselves in the wrong light?
So sorry this doesn't fit your definition of acceptable behavior...
You do realize this isn't the Mitt Romney Forum right?
Dr. Paul would be ashamed of you living in fear of what others think...
I will donate
because pot smokers are VERY social people. Word will spread with them. A lot of impact here for very little $$. I'll put in 50 bucks..
Matt Harrington, OR
Matt Harrington, Grants Pass, OR
This won't hurt the
This won't hurt the campaign. Ron Paul has a highly eclectic following. Everybody knows that. This isn't any different from the Prostitute house owner endorsing Paul.
I don't really have money to donate. But I do agree it's a good cause.
Tracy