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George Will: It's Time to Stop Granting Citizenship to Babies of Illegal Aliens!

14th Amendment holds illegal-immigration solution

By George Will
Published: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:06 a.m. MDT

WASHINGTON — A simple reform would drain some scalding steam from immigration arguments that may soon again be at a roiling boil. It would bring the interpretation of the 14th Amendment into conformity with what the authors of its text intended, and with common sense, thereby removing an incentive for illegal immigration.

To end the practice of "birthright citizenship," all that is required is to correct the misinterpretation of that amendment's first sentence: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." From these words has flowed the practice of conferring citizenship on children born here to illegal immigrants.

A parent from a poor country, writes professor Lino Graglia of the University of Texas law school, "can hardly do more for a child than make him or her an American citizen, entitled to all the advantages of the American welfare state." Therefore, "It is difficult to imagine a more irrational and self-defeating legal system than one which makes unauthorized entry into this country a criminal offense and simultaneously provides perhaps the greatest possible inducement to illegal entry."

Writing in the Texas Review of Law and Politics, Graglia says this irrationality is rooted in a misunderstanding of the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." What was this intended or understood to mean by those who wrote it in 1866 and ratified it in 1868? The authors and ratifiers could not have intended birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants because in 1868 there were and never had been any illegal immigrants because no law ever had restricted immigration.

If those who wrote and ratified the 14th Amendment had imagined laws restricting immigration — and had anticipated huge waves of illegal immigration — is it reasonable to presume they would have wanted to provide the reward of citizenship to the children of the violators of those laws? Surely not.

The Civil Rights Act of 1866 begins with language from which the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause is derived: "All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States." (Emphasis added.) The explicit exclusion of Indians from birthright citizenship was not repeated in the 14th Amendment because it was considered unnecessary. Although Indians were at least partially subject to U.S. jurisdiction, they owed allegiance to their tribes, not the United States. This reasoning — divided allegiance — applies equally to exclude the children of resident aliens, legal as well as illegal, from birthright citizenship. Indeed, today's regulations issued by the departments of Homeland Security and Justice stipulate:

"A person born in the United States to a foreign diplomatic officer accredited to the United States, as a matter of international law, is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. That person is not a United States citizen under the 14th Amendment."

Sen. Lyman Trumbull of Illinois was, Graglia writes, one of two "principal authors of the citizenship clauses in 1866 act and the 14th Amendment." He said that "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" meant subject to its "complete" jurisdiction, meaning "not owing allegiance to anybody else." Hence children whose Indian parents had tribal allegiances were excluded from birthright citizenship.

Appropriately, in 1884 the Supreme Court held that children born to Indian parents were not born "subject to" U.S. jurisdiction because, among other reasons, the person so born could not change his status by his "own will without the action or assent of the United States." And "no one can become a citizen of a nation without its consent." Graglia says this decision "seemed to establish" that U.S. citizenship is "a consensual relation, requiring the consent of the United States." So: "This would clearly settle the question of birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens. There cannot be a more total or forceful denial of consent to a person's citizenship than to make the source of that person's presence in the nation illegal."

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the full faith and credit of

the full faith and credit of the US economy is back behind the citizens energy, so this makes sense, the more citizens the more credit, the higher the debt can go.

Ron Paul has given the best arguments regarding immigration

as of date.

You can find a few on Youtube

This is a no-brainer

Bump

George Will is a fascist

The liberty position is for the separation of State + movement.

Ron Paul agrees with getting

Ron Paul agrees with getting the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment back to its original intent and meaning. It's been mis-interpreted for way too long and has allowed the illegal immigration problem to become much worse than it would have been if the original intent and meaning had been kept in place.

Here are some links on Ron Paul's view on this subject

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul346.html

Ron Paul gave a speech in 2008 in Las Vegas in these videos, he talked about various subjects ranging from the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment, illegal immigration, national sovereignty, national ID card, opposing mandatory schooling and healthcare for illegal aliens, Iraq war. He also mentioned that he felt that if the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment was returned to it's original intent and meaning, it should be retro-active.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Zsm9gVIPo&feature=related

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Ls03FuZBA&feature=related

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUkbRu5FViI&NR=1

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhzoDyauv1I&feature=related

Amen

There you go

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If they were born here, your

If they were born here, your a citizen of the United States, whether your parent was illegal or not. Let's say we get rid of all social nets and things that put a burden on the taxpayer because of illegals, then what case do you have to not give amnesty to illegals? Only Unions, and job and trade protectionists(which is VERY anti-libertarian), and racists would have something against immigration.

I look at this way, let's say America is more worse than it is now, and let's say Guyana somehow become a very libertarian country with a very good economy, I would want to move there. Now would I expect them to give me welfare in case I can't find a job? No, would I expect them to at least give me the chance to succeed in their country? Yes, I would and I would hope America can be like that too.

That's the point right there...

Seen too much of that when I was in the business.

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