If you were protecting a border that this guy really sounds like he's on amphetamines or crack?
The intellectual arguments for and against both the guards and the detainees are thought provocating and valid I think. However...this guy is really cranked.
you are a new member here and yet you have the balls to attack other Liberty loving people - makes me think.
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Has anyone checked with the border station on this one?!? This person was also arrested a few days before this in a similar incident, by "mall cops"?!? And was that him also last summer?!? Sure making a lot of recordings it appears?!?
Submitted by Jefferson on Thu, 04/29/2010 - 17:02.
300 plus comments ranting, raving, cussing, and spitting about this incident.
People at each other's throats, and it was ALL FAKE.
BTW, it WOULDN'T be funny if it was fake. I for one would be for finding this guy, and giving him a fat lip.
We have enough to rant and rave about, without some dirtbag making a fake recording of something that didn't happen.
That kind of person is the worst of the worst.
If it is/was fake, it should serve as a lesson for the DP to take each piece of information with a grain of salt, and let cooler heads prevail, before flying off the handle.
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So if you pull away from someone who is trying to grab you, that is assault? That seems a little backward.
When exactly did this man threaten the officer? I must have missed it. All that I heard was officers threatening this man.
And this guy is finding three terrorists a day. It is a good thing we have noble border patrol officers such as him to protect our freedoms. (Sarcasm intended)
I guess I forgot, War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is power. To Room 101 with you.
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Submitted by Thinkagain on Thu, 04/29/2010 - 09:25.
I'm a Ron Paul supporter, pro-liberty and anti most of the federal Govt. policies in the US. I also am an American citizen living in Canada. I give the American border guards a pass on this incident. They were doing their jobs. I wish they would police the southern border as tightly as the Canadian border. The US Constitution only applies to American citizens. All others come into the country with their "hat in their hands" in my view. The border guards have the broad authority to stop and question anyone for any or no reason. Don't want to be stopped and questioned? Don't go to the border.
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They clearly did not do anything to warrant the actions of the border officials.
All officials should be aware that after the globalists get done with the people who are harmlessly wanting to live their lives, that they (the officials) could be next.
Perhaps not in Phase I, but Phase II or III... There would be no one left over to defend their rights.
Systems who set up such practices are known to prey upon the very people who aided them to their power. Check history and you will see the examples.
And, even if they survive the changes, their children must grow up in the world they helped to create.
Thank God or whatever you believe in that they are not going to succeed, because they won't - they cannot.
It's interesting that many folks here are comparing the U.S.A./Canada border with the EU. Not a very good comparison. Maybe they would be happy with a North American Union (much better comparison to the EU) so they can cross borders more easily? Heck, the money would be the same too!
Do you remember how easy it was to cross the border in the 90's? I do.
That is all we want.
We do not want the fear and the nazi style talk and boots on our faces when we cross the border.
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Yes, I do remember crossing the U.S.-Canada border in the '80s and '90s, and they questioned me then as to why I was entering their country, and vice-versa on the way back. Back then, if you were a smartass, they'd pull you over for further interrogation too.
It it unfortunate, the events that lead to requiring a passport now, etc., but I was noticing that some posters in this thread were comparing the U.S.-Canada border crossing to EU nations' borders. Not a good comparison as we do not have a union of countries here to compare it to. Crossing the Nevada-California border may be a more accurate comparison.
I had an American girlfriend and I know from her stories how bad Canadian border cops can be too.
Yes the EU countries created a special agreement to enable easy travel between countries.
When I lived in Europe in recent years I loved it -
you could live in one country on the border and visit another one daily every day with just a few seconds of time taken by border guards.
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Still the video went viral -
over 7,000 views so far.
btw watch some videos by George Carlin and then we can talk "Constitutional".
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Submitted by indy elephant on Wed, 04/28/2010 - 17:34.
That's the essence of decentralized power and having a multitude of smaller associations. Competition is good, more so with competing governmental/ organizational entities.
Submitted by RustySanchez on Wed, 04/28/2010 - 18:45.
I'm always an extremist. The most extreme form of decentralization of power is to decentralize it all the way to the individual.
Governments don't need to "compete", they need to let us all alone to be free. The only justification for any sort of government is to punish murderers and thieves.
How much government could possibly be necessary to try a murderer and put him in a jail cell?
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Submitted by indy elephant on Wed, 04/28/2010 - 11:00.
Two words: United Nations
....Oh wait, there's more- Nafta, Cafta, Cap and Trade, North American Union, European Union, and I'll fore go writing the hundreds of corporations, organizations NGO's and Foundations that are all pushing towards one global government.
At first I thought your post was satire, because I can't imagine how anyone would suggest what you have in this day and age.
Submitted by RustySanchez on Wed, 04/28/2010 - 18:40.
What I'm suggesting is that all of those organizations are designed with the intent of keeping you under control, robbing you of your liberty, so the fat cats can run off with all the money.
The world needs to be free and united, not enslaved and divided.
First we must promote freedom. When we've accomplished liberating the countries of the world, governments and nations will fade away into the ashes of history where they belong.
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Abolish the damn border
We need an amendment to the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of movement."
When you involuntarily deal with armed thugs of a criminal gang
reasoning doesn't always work with them. Might makes them right.
Ever Thought...
If you were protecting a border that this guy really sounds like he's on amphetamines or crack?
The intellectual arguments for and against both the guards and the detainees are thought provocating and valid I think. However...this guy is really cranked.
hmm
you are a new member here and yet you have the balls to attack other Liberty loving people - makes me think.
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This is sounding more fake all the time!
Has anyone checked with the border station on this one?!? This person was also arrested a few days before this in a similar incident, by "mall cops"?!? And was that him also last summer?!? Sure making a lot of recordings it appears?!?
Just do some searches on this name!
It looks like 'you been had', DP!
lol yep
especially the gunshot at the end! lmao
Wouldn't that be funny if it was fake?
300 plus comments ranting, raving, cussing, and spitting about this incident.
People at each other's throats, and it was ALL FAKE.
BTW, it WOULDN'T be funny if it was fake. I for one would be for finding this guy, and giving him a fat lip.
We have enough to rant and rave about, without some dirtbag making a fake recording of something that didn't happen.
That kind of person is the worst of the worst.
If it is/was fake, it should serve as a lesson for the DP to take each piece of information with a grain of salt, and let cooler heads prevail, before flying off the handle.
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it is not fake
talk with the guy who recorded this -
r.d.jamieson@gmail.com
the sad part is that every day people are abused this way and...no one cares - because IT WAS NOT RECORDED.
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you forgot to include his wife
in your "freedom" rant.
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Liar Liar Pants on Fire
So if you pull away from someone who is trying to grab you, that is assault? That seems a little backward.
When exactly did this man threaten the officer? I must have missed it. All that I heard was officers threatening this man.
And this guy is finding three terrorists a day. It is a good thing we have noble border patrol officers such as him to protect our freedoms. (Sarcasm intended)
I guess I forgot, War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is power. To Room 101 with you.
Gulag system...
God bless people who act for our freedom!!!
Thank you Lew Rockwell guys*))
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I'm a Ron Paul supporter,
I'm a Ron Paul supporter, pro-liberty and anti most of the federal Govt. policies in the US. I also am an American citizen living in Canada. I give the American border guards a pass on this incident. They were doing their jobs. I wish they would police the southern border as tightly as the Canadian border. The US Constitution only applies to American citizens. All others come into the country with their "hat in their hands" in my view. The border guards have the broad authority to stop and question anyone for any or no reason. Don't want to be stopped and questioned? Don't go to the border.
here is an article for you to read
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/133067
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It is still unfortunate
They clearly did not do anything to warrant the actions of the border officials.
All officials should be aware that after the globalists get done with the people who are harmlessly wanting to live their lives, that they (the officials) could be next.
Perhaps not in Phase I, but Phase II or III... There would be no one left over to defend their rights.
Systems who set up such practices are known to prey upon the very people who aided them to their power. Check history and you will see the examples.
And, even if they survive the changes, their children must grow up in the world they helped to create.
Thank God or whatever you believe in that they are not going to succeed, because they won't - they cannot.
It's interesting that many
It's interesting that many folks here are comparing the U.S.A./Canada border with the EU. Not a very good comparison. Maybe they would be happy with a North American Union (much better comparison to the EU) so they can cross borders more easily? Heck, the money would be the same too!
Willy
That is not the case.
Do you remember how easy it was to cross the border in the 90's? I do.
That is all we want.
We do not want the fear and the nazi style talk and boots on our faces when we cross the border.
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Yes, I do remember crossing
Yes, I do remember crossing the U.S.-Canada border in the '80s and '90s, and they questioned me then as to why I was entering their country, and vice-versa on the way back. Back then, if you were a smartass, they'd pull you over for further interrogation too.
It it unfortunate, the events that lead to requiring a passport now, etc., but I was noticing that some posters in this thread were comparing the U.S.-Canada border crossing to EU nations' borders. Not a good comparison as we do not have a union of countries here to compare it to. Crossing the Nevada-California border may be a more accurate comparison.
good points Willy
I had an American girlfriend and I know from her stories how bad Canadian border cops can be too.
Yes the EU countries created a special agreement to enable easy travel between countries.
When I lived in Europe in recent years I loved it -
you could live in one country on the border and visit another one daily every day with just a few seconds of time taken by border guards.
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Constitutional
and a waste of valuable real estate on the fp
1 star (poor) post
Thanks
Thank you for your opinion.
Still the video went viral -
over 7,000 views so far.
btw watch some videos by George Carlin and then we can talk "Constitutional".
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Good reason to get rid of
Good reason to get rid of borders.
I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.
And governments....
And governments....
Don't fear the Panschluss!
The entire point of government and nations is to keep us divided.
The last thing the globalists want is a unified world.
Why else would they work so hard to make us fear it?
I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.
The entire point of
You're darn right, the founding fathers certainly wanted to be divided from the oppressive regime. I would too.
It's better to get rid of
It's better to get rid of oppressive regimes.
As long as tyrants and murderers can hide behind "sovereignty", we'll have to put up with a world full of them.
I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.
Well said.
That's the essence of decentralized power and having a multitude of smaller associations. Competition is good, more so with competing governmental/ organizational entities.
I'm always an extremist. The
I'm always an extremist. The most extreme form of decentralization of power is to decentralize it all the way to the individual.
Governments don't need to "compete", they need to let us all alone to be free. The only justification for any sort of government is to punish murderers and thieves.
How much government could possibly be necessary to try a murderer and put him in a jail cell?
I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.
Rusty Sanchez, help me out here.
Two words: United Nations
....Oh wait, there's more- Nafta, Cafta, Cap and Trade, North American Union, European Union, and I'll fore go writing the hundreds of corporations, organizations NGO's and Foundations that are all pushing towards one global government.
At first I thought your post was satire, because I can't imagine how anyone would suggest what you have in this day and age.
Seriously.
What I'm suggesting is that
What I'm suggesting is that all of those organizations are designed with the intent of keeping you under control, robbing you of your liberty, so the fat cats can run off with all the money.
The world needs to be free and united, not enslaved and divided.
First we must promote freedom. When we've accomplished liberating the countries of the world, governments and nations will fade away into the ashes of history where they belong.
I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.
good points
Thanks.
I am happy so happy my post created all this...
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