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Pulled over today with no license, license plate, or registration

A CHP officer came up behind me today on 680N and turned his lights on, because I dont have a plate, I knew he didnt have a warrant, I know I didnt commit any Crime, so if I pulled over, it would be considered an "Arrest by Consent". I continued to my exit, about 3/4 of a mile. On the exit the officer said "Pull over right here" through his loud speaker, I ignored him and continued to the light, turned my blinker, and turned. He repeated "pull over right now", I continued on, and took a right and pulled into a church parking lot.

The officer came to my passenger window, I immediately asked "Am I under arrest?", he said "No", I said, "So Im free to go?", he said "no", I said "So Im under arrest", this time he said "yes". I told him that I did not consent to this arrest, and asked him if he had a warrant. He said no, and asked for my drivers license.

I handed him my notarized secured party declaration, a copy of the title to the truck, and my proof of insurance.

He went back to his car for about 5 minutes. A sergeant showed up and took over. I asked him if I was arrested and he said "no". I again said "So I can leave?" he said "no, you're detained". He started talking about arresting me and towing the truck and I asked under what authority. I told him I was on private property and I have not committed a crime. He agreed, but was playing tough guy.

He started asking me what was going on with my license, asked if I was ever licensed in California, and why the truck wasnt registered. I explained all of my info, we read through the case law and cvc together, and both officers admitted that they were fascinated by this. Turns out they were anti-obama, anti-health care, and 'tea partiers' (who knows what type) but either way we made a connection.

I repeated that I have conviction and respect for the Constitution, and that I understand the codes and definitions. I reminded the officers that ALL ROADS in the United States have been deemed "channels of Interstate commerce" by the Supreme Court, and because of that, local and State laws are trumped by Federal Laws, and that in the Federal Laws a "Motor Vehicle" was a "Commercial Vehicle"...we were waiting for almost 30 minutes while they waited for word from their supervisors.

Eventually, they hand me a citation with "none" marked in the DL location, and "none" in the License Plate location. I asked him if I was required to sign it, and he said "yes, otherwise we have to take you to jail." This now made the signature "under duress". I wrote "under duress" and signed my name next to the ticket.

This is where I was surprised, the Officer said "hey, we never read you your Miranda rights, so anything we use against you in court is not admissible."
Im not sure if this is true, but I was intrigued.

I have written "refused for fraud" across the original ticket, and sent it to the Court and the CHP with the letter below attached. I have done this in the past, and never heard another word, I had wondered if there were any warrants, apparently not!
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NOTICE and DEMAND

ATTN: Certified Mail 7009 2820 0003 2274 8185
California Highway Patrol Golden Gate Division
Officer B. Knudsen
DUBLIN (390)
4999 Gleason Road
Dublin, CA 94568-3310

CC: Certified Mail 7009 2820 0003 2274 8192
JUDICIAL COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA, THE
Also Traded as ALAMEDA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT
5672 Stoneridge Drive
Pleasanton, CA 94588-8559

RE: CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL
Violation Number: 60435 LJ

This notice to appear was signed UNDER DURESS as evidenced by the original citation in possession of, or submitted by Officer B. Knudsen.

Because this notice to appear was signed UNDER DURESS;
1) Statements made therein shall not be considered admissible evidence,
2) As a party to this action, I hereby void this contract and notice to appear, and
3) Any perceived consent or promise to appear is hereby withdrawn.

If you, or any Officer of the court or Officer of the CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL disagrees with the facts or statements stated above, you must refute those items point by point within 10 days of receipt of this Notice, via sworn affidavit, under your full commercial liability, signing under penalty of perjury that the facts contained therein are true, correct, complete and not misleading. Mere declarations are an insufficient response, as declarations permit lying by omission and hearsay, which no honorable draft may contain. If an extension of time is needed to properly answer, please request it in writing. Failure to respond will be deemed agreement with the facts stated above and an inability to prove your claim.

_____________________________________
Name, non resident, non licensed and non registered pursuant to CVC 4, 17459, 17460
See: Edwards v. California, 314 US 160 (1941), Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579., Hertado v. California, 110 US 516

(Enclosed) Copy of Notice to Appear

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OK Keyboard Commando

Remember to bring your knife to the gun fight

I've been to jail fighting for the truth, many times. I have 3 federal lawsuits right now for the most recent illegal arrests.

Talk to me about walking the walk after you have done it a few times

So I was wrong about your teevee, big whoopdfreakindoo. You act like a scarred kitty. RUN the man with the badge and the gun is right around the corner!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

3? wow

case numbers please.

U repeatedly demonstrate that what you are really here for is to require everyone to agree with you about every little thing. You're a bully, and I think maybe, a frustrated cop.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Your sock puppets are hard at work!

Good luck with that

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

no sock

no sock puppets I__.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Hey frustrated lawyer,

get lost loser. Have your paralegal do your dirt work. You're the one who gets all butt hurt when someone says something you disagree with, psychopath.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

have my paralegal?

I don't use paralegals. I only work with proper legal professionals, not pretenders. And, a "frustrated lawyer" would be one that never attained that status, which is therefore a slur that doesn't apply to me. I think very soon, with your three "wrongful arrest" lawsuits that you're likely pursuing pro se (or will be soon, I predict), you will be a "frustrated nonlawyer wannabe lawyer." Perhaps you can take your losing experience somewhere and get a job as a paralegal. Not for me though, I only hire qualified persons.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

You are very low witted and insulting

You know nothing about me yet you fling petty insults. Truth insults you so.

You are added to my block list. Talk to yourself.

You mistake my self control, my stratigy of enlightened disengagement for fear or cowardice. That is one huge mistake and it will cost you at some point if you continue the practice. It will come back to bite you.

Write to me in prison when you have so cloged the wheels so as to free humanity.

Just dumb foolish advise, advise that you blat out never indending to do it yourself on the hopes somone else will lead the way, just like a monday arm chair quarterback that always claims victory or when defeated claims they would not listen to him. A trouble maker who is quick to advise and ready to bully when seen as plain stupid.

sovereign

Good

because talking to you is like talking to Granger.

If you can write well you can think well!

Goooooood bye!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Uhhh...

If you're talking about India, the situations are completely different, and Ghandi was an awesome strategist. Ghandi didn't say, "Lets just everyone go to jail! We'll plug up the system!"

I'm sure the for profit prison industry just HATES your idea. They're just shaking in their boots thinking about all the new prisoners.

Eric Hoffer

He is confusing the ends of civil disobedience...

with "plugging up the jails".

The goal of civil disobedience is to demonstrate that the State's claims of authority are invalid, not to get as many people imprisoned as possible hoping it will "plug up the system".

India won independence not because they "plugged up the jails", but because people were refusing to recognize the British as lawful authority.

Lots of people were imprisoned, but the imprisonment itself did not cause the end of British rule, the disobedience did.

The fact that massive amounts of people were not recognizing the British colonial government as valid is what won them their independence, it was not because lots of people were in prison.

Simply having a lot of people go to jail, is not what ended British rule in India.

Even if you had every single current libertarian go to jail, it would not bring an end to the state.

There many times more non violent drug offenders in US prisons, than there are libertarians in the US.

It's safe to say that all these prisoners are not "plugging up the system" and causing it to collapse.

They can always print more money and build more prisons, just as they have been doing.

I'm pretty sure they incarcerating their biggest opponents would not be a net loss for them.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com


"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

I'm not confusing anything.

I'm not confusing anything. Gandhi specifically wanted the jails filled and then they were forced to empty them, essentially making their laws null and void.

Lemme see, there's probably ten to twenty million freaking libertarians in this country and if they all went to jail it wouldn't do anything???? MMMKay!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Maybe you should bone up on

Maybe you should bone up on your history before you make an ass of yourself, coward.

https://sites.google.com/a/fariafalcons.com/remembering-mart...

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Uhhh

Yeah, also most Americans don't like being "plugs." As being a plug involves jail time for the most part. You going to be the first to be a plug or are you too lazy?

Eric Hoffer

I've done it about a dozen

I've done it about a dozen times fighting an out of control local Chief Of Police! So to answer your arrogant question, NO! How 'bout you, lazy?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

yeah

you've apparently got a lot o time on yer hands

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Not really spineless chicken,

Not really spineless chicken, I just decided to make a principled stand in my own back yard, something more people need to.... never mind, you wouldn't understand!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

yes, you know me so well

while you go to jail in a rural area for petty offenses, while sponging off others...

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

How am I sponging off others,

How am I sponging off others, spineless chicken?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

no sure

but you sure cant hold a real job while playing victim over petty offenses from behind bars

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Job? Victim? Petty???

You shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about! What's your definition of a real job mister no backbone?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

a real job

is something that you dont have.

edit: I edit this because it isn't personal and I have no problem with you personally. I think that people like you have given the libertarian movement a bad name, but it isn't personal. Peace, if possible.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Real jobs are for slaves

Good luck with that. How can it be personal? You don't even know me!!!! Because if you did you wouldn't make such retarded comments. Nothing personal!!!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

yeah, maybe

but they do pay better and keep you out of trouble. YMMV.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

????

Do you ever open your mouth and something stupid doesn't fall out?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

pot, kettle

I've seen some court videos so let's not go there...rofl

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

What have you done for liberty chickenman?

And I normally win in court, thank you very much!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Yeah, sure you do

I practice law. I realize that probably sounds like a real job and therefore not your cup of tea.
Also, donated to Ron Paul in both elections. Spread the word among real people who vote. voted Rp in 08 and and GJ in 12.

No I didn't go to jail over a petty traffic ticket to impress local twenty somethings. I did stuff that matters. I am sure you'll find it all quite irrelevant!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Are You A Bar Attorney?

Seriously?

Yes,

enquiring minds want to know!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

keep wanting then

if you can't figure it out, then you're one who lacks discernment. But if you play sov cit then we already know that, right?

And why would it matter to you? You don't value real legal education, nor law licenses, nor bar admissions and therefore it should not matter to you, right?

After all, if you can prove this sov cit crap works, then prove it. Regardless of who I am.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein