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"Cheap Tomatoes"... from a California school teacher regarding illegal immigration

Title of OP changed to reflect title of subject and to distinguish the post from the two other "blood boiling" CA teacher threads. ~Mod
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This will get your blood boiling...
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> Subject: "Cheap Tomatoes"
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> A GOOD ANALYSIS..
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> >
> > WELL WRITTEN AND THOUGHT OUT ARTICLE YOU'LL NEVER SEE IN THE NEWSPAPER
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> > OR HEAR ON TV. WORTH EVERY SECOND IT TAKES TO READ.
> >
> > "Cheap Tomatoes" - Pretty interesting article This should make
> > everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent
> >
> > From a California school teacher - - -"As you listen to the news about
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> > the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things
> > that you should be aware of:
> >
> > I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a
> > large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1
> > school, meaning that its students average lower social economic and
> > income levels.
> >
> > Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell
> > Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are protesting,
> > are also Title
> > 1 schools.
> >
> > Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When
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> > I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but
> > a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make
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> > a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and
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> > trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT
> > WORK)
> >
> > I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least
> > moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The
> > school also Provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant
> > girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the
> > inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family
> > watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing
> > funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for
> > anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new
> > computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month
> > later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who
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> > obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in
> > America. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
> > teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here
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> > in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the
> > female teachers, calling them "Putas" whores and throwing things that
> > the teachers were in tears.(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> >
> > Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc. Is
> > it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to
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> > demand rights, privileges and entitlements?(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT
> > WORK)
> >
> >
> > To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
> > contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
> > housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in
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> > the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.(OUR TAX
> > DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> >
> > Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs,
> > more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding,
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> > new diseases etc., etc, etc.(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK) For me, I'll pay
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> > more for tomatoes.
> >
> > We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster
> > because we won't have the guts to enforce it.
> > Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily
> > leave and return?
> >
> > There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute
> > to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should
> > encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and
> > legal way.
> >
> > It does, however, have everything to do with
> > culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that
> > accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and
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> > that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so
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> > weak and worried about "politically correct" that we don't have the
> > will to do anything about it.
> > (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> >
> > If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to
> > everyone you know.
> >
> > CHEAP LABOR?
> > Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
> >
> > Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage
> >
> > Consumers don't want expensive produce
> >
> > Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs
> >
> > But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a
> > myth, a farce, and a lie. there is no such thing as "cheap labor."
> >
> >
> >
> > Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He
> > takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six
> > dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he
> > files an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to
>
> > $3,200 free.
> > (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > =20
> >
> > He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent (OUR TAX
> > DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > He qualifies for food stamps
> > (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care (OUR TAX
> > DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school (OUR TAX
> > DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > He requires bilingual teachers and books (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > He qualifies for relief from high energy bills (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT
> > WORK)
> >
> > If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI.
> > Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is
> > at taxpayer's expense (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners
> > insurance.
> > (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed
> > material.
> > (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in
> > benefits.
> > (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after
> > paying their bills and his.
> > (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > The American taxpayer's also pay for increased crime, graffiti and
> > trash clean-up.
> > (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT!??
> >
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Extinction here we come!

First and foremost, we do need to end the welfare system, both for Americans and for invaders. It is unethical, it is immoral, and it is destroying our gene pool.

Secondly, we do need to remove the illegal immigrants. Yes there are 12 million of them. Yes there are 300 million of us. That's 25 of us for every 1 of them. I *think* that's pretty good odds.

Don't think we can successfully round them all up and deport them? Wait until the government breaks down and we'll see how quickly those illegals will not be in our country anymore. Nor will the "citizens" who were "born here" illegally. How they are removed... we'll talk about that later XD

Think we can't police the border? Heat and motion seeking minigun turrets will do the job very effectively, as will armed and angry citizens patrolling the border.

Think that's inhumane? What's more inhumane is an American public that cares nothing about its own future, and the future of its children, that they are unwilling to defend themselves with necessary lethal force, and would rather become slaves to the invaders and the treasonmongers who facilitate them.

Altruism is the ideology of the dead.

I'm all for open borders, but first we need to clean up the trash before we invite company over. That goes for the whole world.

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

Destroying our gene pool ? ? ?

I'm all for ending the welfare - and more police on the borders.

But this gene pool comment is over the top - it shows where your heart really is. What is our genepool and how does it differ from their gene pool ?

What do you think happens

What do you think happens when you feed idiots?

If you honestly think genetics has nothing to do with intelligence, then explain to me why dogs can't read.

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

This is where the rest of America needs to realize the

real problem lies within the legislators that vote for incentives for illegal immigrants and even American citizens, to come to this country for the freebies! If we vote for fiscally conservative representatives, the handout epidemic will cease to exist. My grandparents came here from other countries many years ago and worked their butt off, with no DOL regulated lunch breaks and work breaks, or overtime regulations. They didn't expect a handout, and knew if they wanted to be here, they had to work! They both retired from American companies with pensions! I also believe that the whole immigration issue is being spun to usher in the National ID mandate and further strip us of our liberties. We need to put the blame where the blame is due and that's of the Neo-con and Liberal representatives that have rotted this country from the core. And they will continue to do so, unless we vote them all out. All the handouts were created by those with a stroke of a pen, not wanting to lose their jobs in congress.

+...Pray for Your Enemies and Moral Courage for Righteous Leaders, so that Justice Will Be Delivered to the Innocent...+

the point

The point as I see it..
People will take what they can get. In Alaska the housing authorties build homes for native people through out rural alaska. These homes cost up to 600k beacause of HUD rules and the expence of air charters to bring in the material. There are people who have never paid a cent of taxes or even have had a job. Have had free medical care since birth, free food with quest cards, heating assistance. In one village no one would cut wood beacause they could get free fire wood with heating assitance. So everyone used heating oil. Bear in mind the fuel had to be flown in at 8 bucks a gallon. Why cut wood if taxpayers are dumb enough to buy oil? I had a guy working for me that was making 100k one year he quit and moved back to the village because he could qualify for freebies. This is madness.

steve

there is no difference

In Alaska there are also "farmers" paying for 2500 acres pieces of land with CRP payments. Getting grants to drill wells, build storage sheds, etc etc. It's no difference between the two. Government had no business stealing form one person group no matter what color. In days past people would have too much shame to accept these things now there is no such qualms. It seem that half the people I know have some sort of food assitance but yet have 25k dollar boats and 6k dollar ATVs. Go figure. Somehting for nothing. It's not a race thing its a lack of self respect. Sorry to ramble.... Its the way i think...

steve

You don't see the difference?

In the two situations?The way you are presenting it the Natives of Alaska should pay to the ones coming in to their lands?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

i do

The Alaskans are American citizens the Mexicans are not. However my premise is that people will take what they can get. It is wrong for our government to steal from one group to give to another. If these benifits were not available as they shouldn't be there wouldn't be a problem as a matter of fact these workers would be welcome. IMHO

steve

whites are hardly a native to

whites are hardly a native to north america... mexicans on the other hand are made up of mostly Native north americans and part spanish and maybe some french.

So at what point did it come to be

That I owe them something for no services rendered or contract?Personally?

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you don't not in my book. I

you don't not in my book. I think no one should get anything for free... welfare is whats causing all the debate on immigration.... I say get rid of the welfare and keep the illegals, and let the fill the voids in the work place.

The problem is?

I am paying,and I would rather pay for 10 rather than 20 since I don't have a choice.I will seek every opportunity to reduce the amount of people I have to pay for.I did not adopt my neighbors,Legal or not, and their kids yet,and should not be forced to for any reason.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

i understand but the debate

i understand but the debate of do illegals contribute more or less than what they take could also be raised... and right now i am tired so no thanks

The welfare state is bad

I've seen the same BS about Blacks, and Rural white poor.

Its always only half true, and collectivizes and dehumanizes people.

It is about hate, not getting to the root of the problem.

I think the author does get

I think the author does get to the root of the problemm its welfare.. giving something to someone who hasn't earned it..

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

reply

The facts speak for themselves so the only thing remaining to cover for this despicable scam is the race/hate card ... how pathetic!

What Facts ? ?

This is some guy spotting off. I don't see one legitimate statistic.

you are blind then...

you are blind then...

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

and you can't count

You have no clue how extensive or how many people fit the description given here. What people do is draw a conclusion from one observation (illegals are all...) To get a real picture of what's happening you need to do surveys, and collect extensive data.

That data is mostly out there, anyone who focuses on these types of reactionary emails don't want to know the real truth. It says alot about the people that believe them.

???

Don't get out much do you?

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Is Mexico racist,No!

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_2081.shtml

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everyone is racist! no way

everyone is racist! no way around it

Did you go read it?

It is pretty blatant,I walked from the southern border of Mexico to the states once.I know first hand,The racism in the states is very mild in comparison.

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thats because rural usa is a

thats because rural usa is a melting pot of immigrants around the world . mexico is mostly made up of native Indians who dont want nothing to do with cowboy team america. try walking tru a reservation in the mid west and see how far you get with out a native calling you a name or spitin at you.

truth hurts....

truth hurts....

“Defiance of God’s Law will eventually bring havoc to a society.” - Dr. Ron Paul

Rotten tomatoes...

is more like it.

say it isnt so

our governemnt is actually making the problem worse, who would have thunk it.

Big old

...BUMP