Census Worker Just Left My House
Submitted by Tory in Texas on Fri, 05/14/2010 - 19:23A census worker just left. The lady was extremely nice, and she's a local republican from my same precinct.
She began to ask the questions: I told her my address, my name, and how many people live here. She began to ask the other questions, and I responded with "Not applicable" until she got the point, at which time she informed me that I was required by law to "give the information needed to complete the Census". My response was "Under the Constitution, I have given you all of the information I am legally required to give.
I told her, "you can ask all these questions, but there is one VERY important question that you are not asking - Are you a US Citizen?" Why are we taking a census of illegal immigrants and allowing their regions to have more services and funding when they don't pay into the system?
The census worker told me that her supervisor would most likely be paying me a visit, which I welcomed! I enjoy an opportunity to inform people on the proper role of government.
God Bless the united States of America!
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Those census workers are full
Those census workers are full of crap. If they actually prosecuted everybody who refused to answer all the questions, we'd all die of old age before they even got around to filing all the criminal complaints against even 1% of us who refused.
What are we gonna do, lock ourselves all in jail? HAHAHAHA!
I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.
And anybody
that didn't send their census form back in time to meet the deadline is a lazy POS. Way to waste the peoples tax dollars by not sending in your form.
At least this is part of the constitution. Don't you think there are better things for you to whine about than the census?
If it's meant to be it's up to WE!
The census is an outdated
The census is an outdated idea based on an outdated method of apportioning representation.
Congress, specifically the House, was formed during the agrarian age, when people were generally tied to the land, and rarely moved around.
In modern times, large populations are highly mobile. The fluidity makes any census information outdated a year after it's compiled.
A better way to do it would be to have everybody submit a name for whom he wants as his representative. The top 435 vote getters go to the House. This would eliminate things like geographical restrictions and political gerrymandering, and allow people to actually be represented instead of being part of a sizable, yet completely ignored, minority.
I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.
Just Had Census Guy Here
answered the door - he actually had a sign on his stomich say Census whatever - I rolled my eyes and said what can I do for you? I was expecting him to ask me ?s
about myself - but he was asking about a neighbor - and he said does someone live there ... I said "yeah"
then he asked just one (or by himself)I said "you are going to have to ask him - I am not going invade someone elses personal privacy." He looked scared the whole time. That was it - he said have a good day - I said "yep" what a sad way to make an extra buck.
Woman killed by police during census.
Did anyone see this story? A woman was killed yesterday because she pulled a gun on a census worker! She appeared to be inside her home. The census worker called the police, and it turned out ugly.
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_15139923?nclick_check=1
Breaking news
The police were never on scene either during or after the murder.
4409- how to handle a census worker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE6QGRBHQRo&playnext_from=TL&...
Heard a knock on our door yesterday afternoon while upstairs and
my youngster answered the door. The older gentlemen identified himself as a census worker and asked to speak with mommy or daddy. I've been prepared for the conversation (only provided number of residents)and bolted downstairs. I told my daughter to come inside and the gentleman said thank you and started to walk in the house. I told him I was speaking to my daughter and he apologized and stepped back. I asked him how can I help you and he said he was looking for the resident status of (rattled of an address, which was 3 doors down from us). I told him he would have to go ask them and he quickly replied I've tried three times but nobody returns my calls. He asked again if I could provide information about the residents of the address and I politely told him I don't live there and to have a good day. He was polite but I did get a brow beating and he was obviously frustrated.
They are relentless.
We get constant harrassing phone calls and they come to our house every other day.
They get $16 and hour with their team manager making $35. They obviously get bonuses otherwise they would not be so aggressive.
I may seek a restraining order if they come again. (Judge won't give it but would be fun to try.)
A lady just left my door gave them our number and names...and a copy of the Constitution.
(she said she would just ask my neighbors for the rest ofthe information which according to her will be "awkward"...maybe she'll read that little book I gave her instead)
My experience was VERY
My experience was VERY different. The young girl just asked if i could just tell her how many people lived in my household. And then she very polite;y asked if I would be willing to give me race, age. That was it. Who cares anyway.
If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...
4409 has a nice tutorial on how to handle census workers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE6QGRBHQRo
Census worker came today. I
Census worker came today. I told her 4 human beings lived at my house. She then asked who's name is on the mortgage. I said 4 humans live here. She said, so you are refusing to answer. I said, no, I answered what you need to know by law for representative apportioning. She turned around and shook her head and left.
We were visited....
The census worker came to our house twice. The first time he was actually looking for a different address. The second time we handed him The Public Servant Questionnaire and told him to fill it out and come back. We told him to be prepared to answer our one question first: Why did they GPS our front door (and he better not say to help him to find addresses better because the first "visit" proves otherwise.
He took the form to his car and looked at it for about 10 minutes and then he drove off.
http://faemalia.net/PublicServantQuestionnaire.pdf
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)
State law requires them to be bonded
Make sure it is a third-party surety or indemnity bond.
What?
Can you explain this better?
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)
Yes
State law requires all public servants, whether elected or appointed, to be bonded or insured for liability. If said bond or evidence of insurance, in most instances issued by AIG, is not on file within thirty (30) days of the individual being hired that office is vacated. Any action taken by the public servant, whether judge, police officer, county clerk, is void ab initio. Moving violations disappear, court cases are to be thrown out, authorization from the county recorder to the sheriff to initiate foreclosure evictions is all without standing, jurisdiction or venue.
Black’s Law Dictionary, 4t Edition: “brutum fulmen”: “An empty noise; an empty threat. A judgment void upon its face which is in legal effect no judgment at all, and by which no rights are divested, and from which none can be obtained; and neither binds nor bars anyone. Dollert v. Pratt-Hewitt Oil Corporation, Tex.Civ.Appl, 179 S.W.2d 346, 348. Also, see Corpus Juris Secundum, “Judgments” §§ 499, 512 546, 549.
Well,
I think you confused me some more. What significance does a bond make? (I really don't understand "lawyer talk" that much!)
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)
"What significance does a
"What significance does a bond make?" I already answered that: for liability. If they don't have a bond or insurance then there is no financial remedy for someone who has been damaged by a public servant or agent. Their own law requires it.
I'm not a lawyer so that term being applied to me is slander. Words that you don't understand may be looked up in books called dictionaries. Law dictionaries include Blacks and Bouvier.
Slander? In this case,
wouldn't it be libel?
I had two visits this week.
The first was from a very nice gentlemen who asked if he could fill out the survey for me. I of course said sure thing, and proceeded to tell him that 4 people live here.
He went on with more questions and I simply told him that I would not be sharing any other information with him. He said that was fine, he understood and went on. I appreciated his politeness, and it allowed me to stay very cordial and friendly. I told him to not take it personal...I have nothing against the census takers, just the over reach in the information the census is now trying to get on our citizens.
Two days later an older lady came to my house while I was out running around with the chickens. I walked over out of the pasture to talk to her, knowing it was a census person. She was there because the "census supervisor" wanted more information on the sheet, and didn't buy the guys story that I wouldn't give up more. She happens to be my neighbors sister so she said she would come by and talk to me.
I explained to her that my grandparents had lived in a nice home that was vacated by American citizens who happened to be of Japanese descent. She was surprised when I explained to her that those people were rounded up in part due to the census giving up personal information at the request/demand of the Federal Government. She thanked me, told me she understood, and proceeded to drive down the road....to her brothers house to ask him questions about me, so that she could fill out the forms more completely.
Luckily I have had this conversation with her brother (mid fifties probably), and we think a whole lot alike. He refused to give her any information, not even my name. I have good neighbors. :O)
It's not the people doing the dirty work, it's the whole system that is screwed up. I fear for census workers and their safety to be honest.
I had two census workers stop
I had two census workers stop by a few afternoons ago. They were two nicely dressed young ladies (LOL, had they been older ladies, I would have thought they were Jehovah's Witnesses). They were easily identifiable by the clipboards and their census badges.
They interrupted me while I was cooking dinner, so here I was, being civilly disobedient wearing a June Cleaver kind of apron. I stepped outside, closed the door behind me. They wanted to know if they could ask a few questions. Well, I said, didn't you see I filled out the census form? It's taped to the door right here.
We need to see the form, they said. I handed it to them. They told me they could not open it because they would be opening someone else's mail...they mumbled something about postal regulations. So I opened it for them and told them I have constitutional objections to the amount of information being asked. I showed them the form, which was only partially filled out. They said that was fine; they took the form and I bid them a good day.
I did not show them what else was in the envelope...a note to the Census Bureau and a page from the 1790 Census. I had already posted the letter here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/134489#comment-1436435
It will be fun to see if the Census Bureau gets an attitude about my attitude...
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.
So they won't harass me to death?
That's the reason the census worker gave for me to answer ALL the questions. I told her that was fine. Let them try. She only got clarification of the correct address and the number of residents on April 1st.
If the census counts tourists and illegals- what a sham! Those people aren't supposed to vote, why should they be represented?
And why does the census ask for the number of persons living at the residence on April 1st and THEN ask if anyone lives somewhere else part time? As if they are going to double check every person to make sure they have a perfect count...this is obviously just a database for later contacts.
That's such poor taste
that people know they aren't welcome on your property, but come anyway. How is that not trespassing?
I'm fine with them showing up the first time because how else are they supposed to know they aren't welcome. Even though they are typically on an extra-Constitutional mission, what federal worker isn't these days? But, once they know they are finished, but "threaten" to keep coming, that's screwed up.
Defend Liberty!
The census is ONLY for residents
U.S. citizens are residents as are tourists from other nations. Even illegal aliens in prison are counted as "residents". Americans are not residents as they are domiiciled and therefore not subject to the provisions of the census.
Ask the census worker if they have their government mandated bond and, if so, to please provide the name and address of the underwriter of said bond and the bond number.
In Nazi Germany they wanted to know race and ethnicity too.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/barnett/barnett18.1.html
When they first began asking all the extra questions in the last census, I thought that they were just being patsies for corporate interest who wanted demographic information to target their advertising and to make judgments about what products to push. But it finally hit me that the government might want or could use the data for more insidious purposes.
Now I wonder which ethnic group will eventually might be rounded up.
Liberty isn't given to us; it is taken by us, and if not, we will not have it.
Human Race......that's what I told the person that came to my
house last week....made him laugh, but he sensed my annoyance and after I told him I answered all the ?? the Constitution requires, he said he'd just put in "refused to answer" on the rest..... now I'm watching for drones (jk)
My census form came in the
My census form came in the mail 7 days before my deployment. Normally I would have done the standard questions and let them come and try to pull more information out of me. I didn't want the wife to have to deal with that while I was gone. Next time!
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you know..
if I read that backwards it seems to me that you have something stuck in your mouth and are asking for help
halb halb
may I help you? ;)
fair warning tho, I can only do so much