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9/11 Prosecution Plan: Start with Rudy Giuliani

Now that 911 Truth is growing exponentially, it is time for the movement to be not just about truth but also justice. A new investigation is necessary, yes, but what is also needed is a strategy for prosecution. It is standard procedure in prosecuting any crime gang or conspiracy to start at the bottom with charges that are easy to prove, which will "stick," and then move up as people begin to talk.

If there is one open-and-shut case it is the felony destruction of evidence by Rudy Giuliani. The shipment of 99.5% of the WTC steel was not only destruction of evidence, it was destruction of Exhibit A. Under the contracting authority of the City of New York, Guliani hired Metal Management Northeast of Newark, N.J., Hugo Neu Schnitzer East of Jersey City and Blandford Land Development Corporation of Brooklyn. Weeks Marine Inc. created two steel offloading areas at Pier 25 and Pier 6 in the last week of September to accelerate the shipment of the steel on barges to China to be melted.

Great Lakes Dredge and Dock Co. was awarded a contract for $790,500 to deepen the Pier 6 site.

Rudy was a federal prosecutor who knew absolutely and beyond the shadow of a doubt that the destruction of crime scene evidence is a felony. He cannot plead ignorance on this. In addition, many fire science experts, such as Professor Glen Corbett of City University of New York, were calling on Giuliani to halt the destruction of evidence as it was taking place, as were many survivors' families.

In so big a hurry was Rudy to destroy evidence that he forced a showdown with firefighters who were searching for, and finding, remains of their fallen brothers and other victims, removing remains with dignity and respect. Rudy ordered them off the "pile" so a more rapid "scoop-and-dump" operation could proceed, culminating in a melee between firefighters and police in which 15 firefighters were arrested and 5 policemen injured.

So important was it that no piece of evidence wind up in the wrong hands that Rudy had the removal trucks fitted with GPS devices at a cost of $1,000 apiece, to track them to shipping piers.

It does not require one to be an Official Story skeptic to get behind the prosecution of Giuliani. Even those who accept the official story should want to know why buildings which were specifically designed to withstand multiple hits by jetliners as large as 767s collapsed. WTC architect John Skilling said that the buildings were meant to "handle the impact of a 707 traveling at 600 mph without collapsing.” A fully-loaded 767 is nearly identical in weight and size to a fully-loaded 707. This has been standard design practice since a B-25 bomber lost in fog crashed into the Empire State Building in 1945.

The structural steel would have told the tale. With the steel stored and organized at one of our desert military bases, with room to spare across the desert, the best minds in science in engineering could have examined the evidence and pieced together every second of the destruction. The evidence would be guarded around the clock by American soldiers who knew there was no more highly-honored assignment anywhere in the service.

Instead Giuliani sent the steel to a foreign power to be destroyed, and the remains of loved ones to a garbage dump. NYC firefighters tagged Giuliani as Rudy "Ran Like a Coward" Giuliani. Rudy admitted to Peter Jennings that he had been told that the first tower was going to collapse, and to evacuate the area. This should be the subject of a grand jury investigation by itself.

Who told Rudy the building was going to collapse? Why didn't Rudy tell anyone immediately to evacuate towers, where people had been told to go back to work? Why didn't he risk his own life, as the firefighters were, to stay put in the command center in WTC7 and bark the order over the frequencies over and over GET OUT GET OUT, EVERYBODY GET OUT! Instead the "Hero of 9/11," the firefighters say, was "deciding which way to run," as he tucked tail up Vessey Street with his gaggle of followers.

9/11 still haunts our nation every day. As the TSA expands its reach, drones begin to fill our skies, and the last shred of the Constitution is eradicated by NDAA, the 9/11 wars continue, extracting a terrible cost to innocents in foreign lands. As a result of the wars and bank bailouts the land is on the brink of financial catastrophe, with one percent ready to walk off with the wealth, to offshore havens or overseas.

The penalty for felony destruction of evidence in a capitol crime is 5-10 years in almost any state. Even if it went no farther than Giuliani, a prosecution would serve the purpose of putting future perpetrators on notice that allowing yourself to be the lowest man on the totem pole in crime carried a risk. Rudy's job was very important, and the success of the entire operation depended on it. Without the destruction of 99.5% of the steel evidence, no conspirator could ever sleep well.

A prosecution of Giuliani for destruction of evidence would help give closure to the survivors who were begging him to stop. That steel, with the blood and flesh of their loved ones on it, carted off to China to be melted in record time or sent to a land fill, might have been just trash to Rudy.

But it wasn't to them.

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The only way this will happen is if...

by some miracle we can elect an honest DA or AG. Otherwise, when the country collapses, an angry mob will take of Guiliani. If he survives, he'll be begging for prosecution, as it will mean police protection.

There is one other option: a foreign court in a country

which lost soldiers over the 9/11 lie, demanding the extradition of Bush/Cheney/Giuliani/Feith/Zakheim/Rumsfeld/Perle/Wolfowitz.

For starters.

Next week a British magistrate hears this case, Richard Gage will testify. Will they highlight Giuliani's clear role in destruction of evidence?

British Magistrate to Hear Evidence of 9/11 False Flag Attack
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/711-hi...

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Generals telling AIPAC to take a hike

and saying if you try a flag against us, we are not coming after Iran, we are coming after YOU. Ben Fulford says arrests may be coming.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

They should also waterboard him some,

just for the sport of it.

Famous Quote from Justice William O. Douglas

"The Constitution is not neutral.
It was designed to take the government
off the backs of people."

bumping in honor of Rudy calling RP a "kook,." Rudy,

you are a FELON.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

Also

Condi Rice would be a good lead.

You forgot about the Faulty Radios

In one of the videos I saw somehow Ghouliani was tied with the issuing of them. Many of the firefighters complained that the radios did not work so they could not communicate from within the towers. Probably so they could not report on what they were seeing and hearing first-hand.

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

Didn't think of that but it fits

the firefighters were all supposed to die in the building, just like the sailors on the USS Liberty were all supposed to go to the bottom leaving no witnesses. But due to unexpected heroism in saving their ship they lived to tell the story.

In this interview firefighter Schroeder who was inside the first tower says he heard explosions throughout the building when he was in it, with people coming out on fire and burnt on lower floors when he said the fires were supposed to be above floor 80.

If they had had good radios there would be many more stories like Schroeder's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBb00PQR1zo

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

Nice Post.

www.firefightersfor911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.takeourworldback.com

Do youtube search for "General Albert Stubblebine/911" and listen to what the former head of U.S. intelligence has to say. Also try "Dr. Alan Sabrowsky, former director of War College- Treason and betrayal". Nice credentials and interesting opinions these Patriots have.

ecorob's picture

rudy ghouliani...

the "dracula" of america...sucking its blood to feed to his bastard children

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Just

have to bump this because I like Rudy so very much.

9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2012

Or better yet....

Just start with the Mossad. I swear I was born in the wrong century. Why does it take everyone so long to realize the obvious?

the dancing Israelis

The main clue.

blah blah blah

Who is going to start this lawsuit & will it get kicked to Judge Hellerstein in NYC, like almost all 911 cases.

Any DA in any state which can claim a victim of 911

can convene a grand jury. It need not be in NY. Hellerstein won't have shit to do with it. This is under the effects doctrine of law, like someone said here, kill someone from my town in Texas in a robbery in Kansas, and I can reach out and have you extradited to Texas. Old, settled law.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

ecorob's picture

the "blah, blah, blah" quote seems to be very much...

part of the problem instead of the solution

however, mentioning a judge by name who seems to be corrupting justice is something that should be explored so, thank you for that!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

there are 911 famlies from every state in the country

and any prosecutor can bring charges against Rudy in his own state, under the "effects" doctrine of the law which says if you come to Texas from Kansas and shoot someone in a liquor store holdup, as a Texas DA I can come to Kansas and get you. There is no safety for Rudy in Judge Hellerstein.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Not a lawsuit, criminal case

which is different. An ambitious young firebrand lawyer who runs for DA anywhere in the state of NY on a platform of filing charges against Rudy. 70% of NYC thinks it was an inside job and they had to play dirty to get the last referendum on 911 thrown off the ballot. The popular base is there it needs to translate to votes.

Of course the first step is an education campaign across NY state and New Jersey (where may victims lived) to make people understand that Rudy is caught in the crosshairs of an open and shut case with zero wiggle room, and he's hoping no one will notice. He destroyed evidence, period. Then the pressure builds as people realize he is the first link in the food chain that leads all the way to the White House.

Ask every DA in NY in public: Did Rudy destroy evidence or did he not? Because the answer is yes the next question is Then why aren't you prosecuting? This is a strategic place for the entire truth movement to put its energies. Then watch Bush, Cheney et al quietly move to Paraguay, which tells us everything we need to know. 911 truth case closed.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

Start with the man who confessed to the crime

http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/queen.html

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

serious ..missing piece of the puzzle..

guiliani was dumbfounded.. in shock .. he did what many might do .. clean it up.. we keep hearing about .. NANO thermite .. ? is the evidence locked in the vault ???? Does a senator know squat >> there is no evidence to bring forth .. at least about NANO anything .. YET .. Where is the NANO ???? If 911 is a crime scene .. if there WAS any 'thermite" evidence that is actually real it would have been presented to some enforcement agency? and or the REP. of the 911 famalies by now .. It seems they are the only ones who have a legit chance to end this ... sad saga...

That Rudy is a strong leader

New York was lucky to have such an on-the-ground, hard-working mayor. If anything, he's guilty of being an egomaniac.
I'm not serious about Rudy being good, but I am serious about the fact that HE didn't do any of those things, I guarantee. Start with UBL and work backwards to W and the gang.

Like the firefighters said, Rudy was making tough

decisions that day. He was deciding which way to RUN.

Video of firefighters on "Ran Like a Coward" Giuliani:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-mo2PIHcis

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

ecorob's picture

oh, God...

please, just stop it...you are making yourself look foolish and that, i guarantee

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Sure he did it

of course following higher orders from somewhere else. But crime scene evidence is in the primary custody of the municipality or county in which the crime occurs. Your responsibility is to insure the chain of custody, even at gunpoint.

Steel doesn't get up and walk off by itself.

Bush Cheney are still too high and too popular among many people to be touched, but if Rudy is looking at 10 years, he might implicate them. Then the game changes.

Rudy is a good target because the firefighters hate him for sticking them with bum radios which cost hundreds of their brothers their lives when they did not hear the signal to evacuate. So there's plenty of bad blood to go around. Also firefighters are the one constituency the media and the courts cannot ignore. Everyone loves firefighters.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

Where & Who can bring this case up

to a Grand Jury?

Strongest standing is families

My take on it would be, strongest standing in order:

- 911 families directly affected by the collapse of the towers, family members killed inside (includes firefighters)

- firefighters elsewhere who are "harmed" by irretrievable knowledge lost to the profession, to allow future engineers to design safer buildings

- American soldiers injured, or families of killed, who cannot determine if they were sent to Afghanistan on false pretenses

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

Where do they start

in court?

People, once Grand Juries are established in every

state Republic and County, then and only then, will the 9/11 prosecution be appropriately dealt with 'by the people' using our state/and national Constitutions as our authorities.

Witnesses/suspects will be subpoened and the Grand Jury will hear the evidence brought forward. Remember in a common law court, the jury can even declare laws to be 'unconstitutional'.

http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org/

No! Start with the top and work your way down.

If you start at the bottom, it will end at the bottom.

I'd go with Dick Cheney and George Bush, prosecuting them for crimes against humanity and including the torture charges. After all, they both admit to those crimes.

How do we know Rudy...

had the steel destroyed? Wasn't it sold overseas or something? I wasn't aware a Mayor had this power, especially when the FEDs are all over the place.