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UPDATE: MSNBC defends fraudulent Rand Paul transcript as "technically correct", makes no apologies

I've noticed a few recent news articles are reporting Rand had the following exchange with Rachel Maddow.

Maddow: Do you think that a private business has the right to say, "We don't serve black people"?

Paul: Yes. I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form...

If you go to the video however, Rand obviously never said the word "yes". Here it is, cued up to the exact moment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VGdP2mNPeo#t=8m1s

It was merely some sort of insignificant vocalization to maintain the flow of conversation that was already made difficult by the satellite delay. Now he WAS laying out what the arguments would be for "yes", but he never actually said "yes". It makes a BIG difference to insert that word there.

Here are some of the major media outlets I have come across that are using the nonexistent "yes" quote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/us/politics/21paul.html
http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/8ef5320729ce4298abefc1903704...
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/white-house-...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/05/rand_paul...

After doing a little google searching though, you will see that those articles above are just the beginning. Both the New York Times and the Associated Press articles have been syndicated in MANY major media outlets (too many to list) and also many many more smaller media outlets.

UPDATE: Looks like MSNBC released a fraudulent transcript that is the source of all these misquotes popping up.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37252841/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_madd...
http://i46.tinypic.com/2dhb5lv.jpg

UPDATE #2: A fill-in for Rachel Maddow acknowledged on Friday's show that their transcript was "totally misleading", but said the quote was still "technically correct" and declined to apologize for it. The host also acted like it was just the New York Times that used the misquote, when in fact there were many more media outlets that did, all because of their shady transcript.

Here is the video from Friday's show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5zOQ05b9E

UPDATE #3: NewsBusters has picked up the story and is linking to this thread!
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/05/22/rachel...

UPDATE #4: DP user j has pointed out ANOTHER misquote of Rand Paul by the Rachel Maddow Show. From Thursday's show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JFKsV0SKDA

UPDATE #5: Influential Kentucky political blog BlueGrassBulletin has picked up the story and is linking here as well:
http://www.bluegrassbulletin.com/2010/05/rand-paul-controver...

UPDATE #6: LewRockwell.com is linking here!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/58246.html

UPDATE #7: More than 4 complete days after the original interview and 2 complete days after the clarification segment on The Rachel Maddow Show, none of the news outlets I listed above have bothered to correct the record in any way that I can see, including the New York Times, who was specifically corrected on air by The Rachel Maddow Show. MSNBC has not corrected their transcript either, even though they admit it is "totally misleading".

UPDATE #8: Hmmm... On "The Maddow Blog" on the MSNBC website, there is a version of the transcript with the "yes" left out:
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/05/20/4313688-ran...

MADDOW: Do you think that a private business has the right to say we don't serve black people?

PAUL: I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form...

How about a little consistency here? Do they even have any written procedures in place for transcribing? Or were they just playing dirty tricks?

Actually, I don't think they have any written procedures in place at all, because here is the 3rd version of their transcribing technique I have found:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37279599/ns/meet_the_press/

MS. RACHEL MADDOW: Do you think that a private business has a right to say, "We don't serve black people"?

DR. PAUL: I'm not in, I'm not in, I'm not in--yeah--I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form ...

The 2nd and 3rd versions are really a lot more accurate than the 1st version. Unfortunately, the 1st version was the one that counted. And they still haven't corrected it.

UPDATE #9: Before MSNBC points fingers at the New York Times, they might want to issue a correction to the article on their own website.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37255639

They didn't write it as it is an AP article, but they should still be able to issue a correcting statement at the beginning or end of the article, or just remove it.

UPDATE #10: Andrew Breitbart's bigjournalism.com has picked up this story and is linking here! Excellent article.
http://bigjournalism.com/llyman/2010/05/24/rand-paul-wanders...

UPDATE #11 Before It's News, Infowars, and Prison Planet have all picked up this story!
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/49/103/MSNBC_defends_fraudule...
http://www.infowars.com/corporate-media-uses-fraudulent-msnb...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/corporate-media-uses-fraudulent-...

UPDATE #12: Paul Mulshine of nj.com has written a very good article on this that links to this thread and he excoriates Rachel Maddow for her pathetic display of journalism.
http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2010/05/rachel_maddow_-...

Real Clear Politics also picked this up.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/mediawatch/2010/05/msnbc_in...




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nicely documented thread

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good work!

this campaign is going to

this campaign is going to provide a lot more entertainment than i thought it would. i hope that it receives this much attention every day until the election.

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NewsBusters has picked up this story

and is linking to this thread!

Article here:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/05/22/rachel...

WTG

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Thanks.

I sent a message back to Noel, thanked him for picking up the story and for linking to the DailyPaul, the #1 libertarian website on the planet!

No you

are awesome,That's great!

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Thanks!

I agree with the two posters below that this should be front page.

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Technically, "yeah" ≠ "yes"

so the transcript is technically wrong.

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

Correct.

I didn't hear any "S" pronounced, so even the "technically correct" claim is BS. I bet a lot more people would have picked up on the true meaning if they used the word "yeah". But definitely it shouldn't have been included in the first place. It was a totally meaningless utterance from his mouth that added absolutely nothing to understanding the conversation.

I have noticed Ron using similar speech patterns

that can be excerpted to create an incorrect impression of what he clearly means. Watch some of the debate videos, you can find many similar there. I think it is caused by their minds moving ahead of their speech and/or composing complex thoughts and editing on the fly.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Joη's picture

yes, but Rand's are more pronounced

When I first heard the "yeah" tic, I thought "no, the media would never be that petty"...ha. ha.

At least Rand will learn not to do that again. Hopefully.

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

Here

is how it works. 'yeah' means I want to and will work toward repealing the 1964 act and force private businesses to discriminate based on race.

Sue them for slander then.

Sue them for slander then.

photoshopwiz's picture

"It puts the deep pockets of the MSM in the line of libel"

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The Hill: "Targeting Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, now Nikki Haley"

What is different today is that the larger corporations in the mainstream media try to take the hip, “edgy” and youthful tone of the amateur bloggers. Maddow brings amateur bloggers on her show and echoes their sentiments. But it puts the deep pockets of the MSM in the line of libel. Rewards and damages multiply with exposure and cash flow. If Letterman libels a politician like Palin, his corporation can take the hit as well. Thus the fawning public apologies.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/99703-targeting-...

I sent this thread over to to NewsBusters

thru their contact form and also to one of their writers. Their whole existence is to expose liberal media bias, kind of like the right-wing version of Media Matters, so hopefully they can do a story on it.

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Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

I just surfed the net to see how many articles have the error

There are thousands of articles that ran all over the country and contain the doctored transcripts.

There are blogs that are based on the articles, and they also contain the fake doctored transcripts.

To give the appearance of propriety, they ran the segment in the OP. But almost no one who read the fake transcripts watched the Rachel show, and the MSNBC smearing machine doesn't even apologize.

The New York Times article, in its online version, still has the doctored transcripts RIGHT NOW.

Interesting..............

hummmmm

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."

This if Front Page material!

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Agreed, this is front page material.

Bump.

It should say front and center for any guests to see.

Bump.

But the thing is he does

But the thing is he does support it and he shouldn't be ashamed to say "Although I believe racism is wrong and wouldn't participate in a business who practices it, I support a business owner's right to decide who they conduct business with."

He needs to just say that and it is all over with.

bump for update #2

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BTW Who owns MSNBC? Follow

BTW Who owns MSNBC? Follow the money and see where that takes us as to why such aggressive attacks against anti-establishment candidates as is being witnessed toward the good Doctors Paul.

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Notice how the Republicans are using this as a means to immediately distance themselves from Rand especially Mitch McConnell who has been completely silent ... this was the intent of the pre-arranged smear all along.

I think the GOP is doing a straddle, positioning themselves to

go either way. Many GOP brand talking heads are speaking in defense to perpetuate the duopoly that they have created in the minds of most.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

They will come to regret it.

This is a complete hit job, over a third of America knows this and another 25% dont think it was a big deal either.

If the Republican leadership side with MSNBC on these fake / false transcripts they will themselves pay for moving to the center at a time when the center is (Spector/McCain) is not at all popular. This would be worse than getting an endorsement from Dick Cheney and George Bush on the same day.

Its is not what people want right now. They want someone to stick their neck out and challenge the establishment media and politicos.

RAND IS THAT CANDIDATE! And Kentucky is fertile ground for the right side of the Tea Party.

Stay focused and support this campaign with everything you have and we will win back our government from the corporatist establishment of the party.

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Agreed

They discredit themselves with this stunt. The voters will back Rand vs. MSNBC. One addresses their concerns, while the other IGNORES them???

Who do you think voters will identify with more in this instance??? The declining, out of touch media???

I just don't think so. They will see how they are being duped by the MSM, and they will resent it...

I mean it's MSNBC, home of "Mad-Cow", and Chrissy Matthews... Nobody in Kentucky outside of Louisville and Lexington takes what they say at face value for the reasons I stated in the first paragraph. Rand will do fine...

McConnell already said Rand took the right position

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