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Frightened yet? The Origins Of Evil by Michael Tsarion

Ok, so things are happening. But what is happening? Right now, what is happening is that you are being invited to explore a perspective on what is going on in your world, today, yesterday and tomorrow (Please excuse the esoteric language. I posted this topic originally here: http://nevernothere.com/forum/frightened-yet).

This following video is filled with projections of belief-systems and truisms, however, as you surely must know there must be an element of truth in everything. And so, this video is a short (2h 10min) lecture attempting to sum up the work of this individual named Michael Tsarion and other prominent people throughout history. In short, he tries to wake interest in this subject to make people more aware of a (darker) structure of this disorienting reality of which most people are living in complete ignorance of. This presentation contains everything from history, psychology, and mystical topics. In my experience of it, a few years back now, this presentation projected tremendously amounts of fear and literally drove me very close to insanity (If you felt radioshow-activists Alex Jones brought paralyzing fear into your life, then I suggest you stop reading this post right now. At least postpone the subject). However, after processing some of the information and starting to do some of my own homework, the information then simply became a matter of an alternative perspective and also opened up a few new possibilities to say the least. This topic definitely belongs in this forum.

The presentation video is divided into 6 parts, the first one being about 25 minutes, the entire presentation about 2h, 10min. Note that one does not need to see the entire video at once or in sequence as the information stands mostly independent from one another. So, without further a due, enjoy, and get ready for a little nail-biting (also, to your own benefit, observe your reactions that comes when watching this presentation):

The Origins Of Evil by Michael Tsarion [Part 1 of 6]: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8360601521310929801#

Google Video description:
"A must see! Ever asked yourself where all injustice and cruelty in the world comes from? Michael Tsarion brings insight to the world we are living in. Watch this Conspiracy Con 2005 Presentation "The Origins Of Evil" with Michael Tsarion [Part 1 of 6] Michael Tsarion's free webstreams, interviews, presentations, the origins of evil, future of mankind, 2012, the maya calendar, atlantis, alien visitation, genetic manipulation, the cult of aton, akhenaton, psychic hygiene, illuminati, secret societies, subversive use of sacred symbolism, symbol literacy, divination arts, astrology, astro-theology, numerology, mystery school, irish origins of civilization, http://www.taroscopes.com http://www.michaeltsarion.com http://www.personaltimescopes.com "

Part 2 of 6: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5597983852709238571#
Part 3 of 6: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1823884172706726810#
Part 4 of 6: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5804447539516185980#
Part 5 of 6: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8967664658521962794#
Part 6 of 6: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1095986015238727417#

For those who would be interested, there is available a bit-torrent file download of circa 9.55 GB of just under 60 hours of video presentation! I don't want to link directly (legal issues) but the name of the work is Origins & Oracles by Michael Tsarion. And if doing so, please remember to contact Michael Tsarion and give thanks! You will also find the product available for purchase for those who are willing to do that. Be warned however, these are only lectures and you will have to do your own research in whatever comes up in these presentations. Off course, the videos can be enjoyed simply by themselves, but we're talking of possibly years and years of research and personal inquiry so, if you can, remember to have fun with it!

Happy illumination:P

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Great to see someone posting some Tsar on the dailypaul. Thank you!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!question everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^ including his work and everyone elses. Look for knowledge with the state of mind that possibly everything you have been taught may be wrong. You should hear every point of view possible, never afraid to be wrong, or to listen to someone who you don't agree with 100%. they may prove to be insightful...


p.s. michael tsarion is a fan of ron paul/founding fathers and austrian economics, he just doesnt believe we will get freedom in that way. He is without a doubt correct... He thinks we need to have(and are having) an inner spiritual revolution, much in the likes of what jiddu krishnamurti talkes about. Contrary to just having a political revolution anyways, or the replacing of one system for another system ^^

-3 cheers!

Great point


"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

Not thrilled with Tsarion

I put him in the same boat as David Icke and Jordan Maxwell. They seem to be searching for truth, but throw in new-agey concepts which do not adequately explain the origins of evil, or the existence of the Illumnati GIRPS.

hey brother, been a while

I would ask that you keep your mind open and entertain the following blurb.



Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul, for the President of the United States of America, in 2012!!!

"Obi-wan [Ron Paul] Kenobi, you're my [our] ONLY hope." Now, more than EVER.

-Viva la r3VOLuzione!!!

There is nothing new aged about

the new age....

Food for thought....


"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

I sure do believe

Tsarion is onto something crucial concerning our ancient past. The Illuminati is historically a very recent order, and is an extension of earlier orders. As far as I know, Tsarion & Maxwell are both very skeptical of this day & age's new-age movement and information.

David Icke is in his own distinct category.

truth liberate


Belief never yields knowledge, but questioning belief often does.

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Wow, wow, wow

very interesting thanks for sharing this with us. "Truth is Painful but Necessary for Growth."

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

The stuff that scared me was

The stuff that scared me was when I realized that the entire entertainment industry is a satanic cult and putting references to demon possession, mind control, NWO, satanism and the occult in their music videos.

You aren't going to even know what I am talking about until you watch "The Industry" series.

Essentially, in order to be a star in hollywood or music you literally have to sell your soul to the devil by taking a blood oath and be initiated into masonry, and satanism. If you try to get out or tell anyone what is going on they will kill you or set you up until you are penniless, then they kill you. this is what happened to Tupac, MJ, DMX, etc., etc. Heath Ledger was probably killed as a ritual sacrifice as well as others.

I can't really expalin it, it is something you have to see for yourself - at first, you are going to think it is all BS but once you see all of it in perspective it is striking. They are conducting occult rituals in front of us everyday through music videos.

I agree.

I am familiar to some of what you are saying. However I know little of it. I've stumbled over some stuff on Tupac and recently Lupe Fiasco (which still is "in the game") on this matter. Very intriguing but yes also a little scary. Just remember always that you are your own salvation (a matter of speaking) and in the end, there's nothing to fear :)

truth liberate

Monday morning


My apologies

To all that have had to experience my wrath and frustation backed anger, I am truly sorry.

But please, stop posting stupid stuff because I cannot help myself. I know this is an really off world topic but it belongs in this forum. Period. Stop passing judgement on stuff you haven't the faintest clue about (that concerns anything in your life) If you disagree with whatever is posted here I'm more than happy to discuss ANYTHING and you'll find it to be a pleasant one.

It's 4AM now where live, and I have to get some sleep. Thanks to those who shared their information with me. If there are questions I will answer them at a later time, but, if I wake up tomorrow and see this thread drenched in bullshit, by GOD, I promise my hateful wrath will consume this forum :D

With Love,

Good night!

truth liberate

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Many people who think they are "awake"

Are in fact very closed minded.

I understand your frustration.

It is a shame that people can't be civil.

Wilhelm Reich ~ Listen, Little Man!

Tsarion often refers to Reich's work....You can only liberate yourself!


"It is high time for the living to get tough, for toughness is indispensable in the struggle to safeguard and develop the life-force; this will not detract from their goodness, as long as they stand courageously by the truth. . . . Anyone who wants to safeguard the life-force from the emotional plague must learn to make at least as much use of the right of free speech that we enjoy in America for good ends as the emotional plague does for evil ones. Granted equal opportunity for expression, rationality is bound to win out in the end. That is our great hope."

Reich explains the nature of his book in his introduction:

"It reflects the inner turmoil of a scientist and physician who had observed the little man for many years and seen, first with astonishment, then with horror, what he does to himself; how he suffers, rebels, honors his enemies and murders his friends; how, wherever he acquires power 'in the name of the people,' he misuses it and transforms it into something more cruel than the tyranny he had previously suffered at the hands of upper-class sadists."

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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Wilhelm Reich

The story of Wilhelm Reich is one of the most monstrous demonstrations of government power and abuse gone wild.

Here is a taste.


I recently came across the story of Reich in the books of Robert Anton Wilson.

Some here might call that 'distraction' also. Those are the ones that want you to think and do exactly what they want you to think and do.

Don't take the bait.

You are above and beyond, free.

Thanks for the link.

A Warrior's Path of Knowledge and Freedom Based on the Teachings

Social norms are part of the foreign installation and only serve to divide. They encourage false behaviors and mask a person’s authenticity. A warrior can see through the façade though and as a result has nothing to do but laugh and laugh at the ridiculous behavior they witness.


"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

I can't help but wonder why all this 'distraction' from such

an obvious omission: If Tsarion truly, truly wished to end 'evil' on earth, why is he NOT talking about the rule of law and our Constitution?

Answer: Because he is a paid disinformation agent and he makes a killing from those who are fumbling in the dark and easily pulled by the nose.

Only moral philosophy puts an end to these ramblings that serve to mislead so many and keep them 'mesmerized' and spell bound instead of working to restore the rule of law in this country!

He is right about 75% of what he says but the other 25% is disinfo to steer so many in a dead end so they won't take 'right action'.

Do you people even know what it means by "the power is vested in the people"?

What is 'the power'? Nothing mysterious. It is the power to envision. Then once you can 'envision', this creates 'desire'. Once you connect with desire, another human power, it begins to foment within. Then the final power; using the will to take 'right action'.

All and I mean ALL distractions that we are being bombarded with today from all angles are purposely attempting to keep human beings, especially Americans, from attention to their 'powers' vested within them.

Please stay focused. Read the Articles of Freedom, and sign the damn pledge already...LOL ;)

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Because he is a paid disinformation agent and he makes a killing from those who are fumbling in the dark and easily pulled by the nose.

How do you know that?

FYI, I have heard the same things said about your boss, Bob Schulz.

This is why I ask - do you have evidence, or is that just how you feel, something you came up with yourself?

What if someone said the very same words about Bob Schulz, without evidence?

I have to say again, your attitude has done more to turn me off towards the AoF than any other single thing I can point to.


my attitude, however that may turn you off, should never be the deciding factor in realizing when something is valuable in itself.

I am so sorry for you that my ways are not slick with all the right sound bites and 'appropriate' attitude according to the latest slick 'business' and 'marketing' techniques being taught. Thats not me.

I am only one of thousands of different Americans who can see the AoF for what it is and what it can become for our country.

If you choose to 'blind' your own self using 'my' attitude as an excuse, it is completely your loss not mine and I am not here to please you even if you were the president of the USA!

I will speak my truth whether you like it or not!

I am speaking out against Mr. Tsarion's lectures because I can at least say I have listened to probably all of them over the years with great interest. I have given consideration to his research and what he is saying.

It is in my estimation according to what I got from his speeches, that 75% feels true to my intuition, but its that 25% of it that I have big trouble with because it has to do with the 'half truths' of what he is referring to especially towards 'freemasonry', which groups all fraternities and all secret societies into one single box and labeling it 'evil'.

I cannot abide by that judgment, because it is my experience with a fraternal society that is not necessarily all that secret, that that is simply not true. That in fact this one fraternal organization that I know of, it is our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution that is the second allegiance, the first being God and all its natural laws of nature!

When he pointed out President Washingtons' tombstone declaring he was a Freemason first, within the context of the 18th century, that was fraught with intrigues, the meaning there is his ultimate allegiance was to God and God's Universal laws first and foremost, and then to his country, which is totally appropriate and very, very American.

Mr.Tsarion omits the 'fruits' of our supposed evil, sinister founders by not pointing out and giving any attention to such extraordinary documents of law they produced as a group of men who shared a vision of true freedom on earth according to the way they felt was in harmony with nature's God and NOT the whims of naturally selfish men.

So no, I find this grouping together of all fraternal organizations as evil, is very, very damaging to those of us who work for freedom, true freedom on this planet.

He points to the founding fathers of our country and denigrates them, casting aspersions on our founders in very dark, sinister associations amongst an audience who may never have bothered to read their history and letters and leave his lectures with a feeling of betrayal by our founders as so skewed by these two men, Mr. Maxwell and Mr. Tsarion.

If Mr.Tsarion succeeds at causing people to feel that way about our founders, it follows they most certainly may be tempted to blindly think that way about our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution!

That is wrong. It is also not very scholarly either because he is taking something completely out of context. Most Freemasons were at one time true freedom fighters on the planet working to undermine the Divine Rights of Kings, the Pope and especially, the bankers.

I consider that an attack on our American spirit. This is no different than what is taking place in all the Universities and public schools across America. What are his intentions with all this?

Yes, I agree with him, many of these Freemason orgs were eventually infiltrated when they saw the results of their sabotage of the status quo and how this led to the Revolutionary War here in the colonies and then in France.

It was exactly May 1 1776 when Weishaupt began his Bavarian infiltrations. This is around the time our Declaration of Independence was being drafted by Jefferson. Were there spies within the founders group. Most likely there were.

I would like to point out Mr.Tsarion never has any suggestions as to what to do about all these things he is bringing to us. He keeps saying its up to you.

What is up to us then if our Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights are gone because there are so few left who will understand what these were about and defend them?

How is what he is bringing to our attention making this a better world? How is this bringing more loving kindness and sanity to our world? It isn't. It does however, bring a great sense of irrational fears, of strange paranoia about UFOs(they must be evil).

I do agree with him on many things however regarding the 'satanic' movement in Hollywood and amongst elected members of government.

I feel I have every right to challenge this here in defense of our moral law and the spirit of these laws as they were drafted by those men that had everything to lose in the 18th century.

I am questioning his 'intentions' and I am encouraging others to do the same.

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Who made you the expert?

It is in my estimation according to what I got from his speeches, that 75% feels true to my intuition, but its that 25% of it that I have big trouble with ...

Bravo! Perhaps others will listen and find a different mix of truth. I don't think anyone agrees with anyone else 100%. This does not mean that Mr. Tsarion, and I quote you, Anisha, 'is a paid disinformation agent and he makes a killing from those who are fumbling in the dark and easily pulled by the nose.'

I asked you two questions, and you wrote a very long post about your intuition, how you feel, your beliefs, etc. vis-a-vis Mr. Tsarion, but you did not answer my questions. Let me rephrase them, simply.

1. How do you "know" that Mr. Tsarion 'is a paid disinformation agent and he makes a killing from those who are fumbling in the dark and easily pulled by the nose,' as you stated?

2. Say, hypothetically, someone had the same, as you call it, 'intuition' towards your boss - Mr. Schulz, and they used your exact words: It is in my estimation according to what I got from his speeches, that 75% feels true to my intuition, but its that 25% of it that I have big trouble with ...

Would that person be likewise justified in saying about Mr. Schulz, that he 'is a paid disinformation agent and he makes a killing from those who are fumbling in the dark and easily pulled by the nose?'

Two simple questions - you don't need to write a novel in response.

BTW, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Everyone is an expert in their own right unless you are not sure

about what you are stating.

I can see by your insistence on 'answering your question' you seem to take my opinion of Mr.Tsarion's work very 'personally'.

Yes, I have reason to believe Mr.Tsarion is a disinformation agent. I thought I already made myself clear enough but maybe your intense hatred of me keeps you from reading my words.

It is through his 'omission'. I will repeat that just in case you didn't get it, his omission, of the achievements, the 'fruits' of the collective, philosophical intentions of our founders who through their efforts created our Declaration of Independence and eventually our Constitution, the greatest act of freedom in human history!!!

He omits this.

I kept hoping he would bring this up but he doesn't because it doesn't FIT into all his hateful theories on our founders.

This is evidence, in my opinion, of the greatest disinformation. These are his 'fruits' he displays.

You allow this attack on our founders like that?

It is a wonder, Mr.Michael Nystrom, that you have put so much effort into creating a website in support of Dr.Ron Paul who has spent his entire career defending our founders, the Declaration and Constitution, and yet you will put all your emotions into defending such unAmerican drivel like Mr. Tsarion's while you clearly denigrate a great defender of our American law, who has decades to show for it as Mr. Schulz?

There is something very, very skewed here with your thinking and your priorities, Mr. Nystrom. If anything we all ought to wonder about this. Who are you really?

You have shown your true colors. It is clear you won't defend real solutions like the Articles of Freedom and your lame 'personality' excuses about me or Mr.Schulz are not good enough.

Now that the rubber is hitting the road, and the lines are clearly being drawn, we are all coming to realize who are the patriots and who are the co-opters.

I have made a copy of this btw just in case it is mysteriously removed from this thread.

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I just asked two questions

Which you still haven't answered.

I have no personal attachment either to Mr. Tsarion or Mr. Schulz. (I think you're projecting)

Dude...hang it up

you have no idea what you are talking about and you make yourself look very foolish.

Just some friendly advice.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

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You've got your facts wrong

What is moral law????????

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

Something you were obviously NOT taught in school,

moral philosophy based upon ancient teachings of Natural Laws and also known as Divine Laws/Universal Laws/Laws of our Universe.

It was the basis of our Declaration and the Constitution.

It is an 18th century ideal and is just as fresh and original today as it was then. Its arguments tend to be the scourge of the status quo, to wit: Dr.Paul, Mises, Marc Emery, currently and many of those burnt at the stake in centuries past as 'heretics'.

It is no longer taught in the philosophy departments across all universities. Only very few 'societies' left in America and perhaps in a few places in the world know this, write about it, and teach it.

Once you know about this spiritual philosophy and realize its disappearance from our courts, legislation, universities, law enforcement and prisons, it is a wonder we have so much evil and lost people especially in USA where the spirit of this philosophy once reigned for a while.

I'm talking about the law

There are only two kinds of law, law of the land and law of the sea. I'm not talking about spiritual philosophies. The law used in court doesn't have a definition of a spiritual being. Never has been.

The only thing the courts are interested in is the flow of money or currency. The Judge rules for the bank. Money doesn't care what you think.

Your subject headline appears very ego driven. Go back and check your facts.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

What you have described is what we have as a result

of denying our American roots of law based on moral spiritual philosophy - our Constitution.

This is the people's denial of it, so we got what we elect.

Yes, we currently have Commercial/Admiralty courts that serve and protect the Federal Reserve system, NOT common law/Constitutional courts that serve and protect the sovereign Rights of an American individual.

We don't have that because 'the people' are no longer understanding or accepting of 'moral philosophy', which was the basis upon which our country was founded.

So what is your point?

American Roots of Law

come from Great Britain and Rome. Our country was founded on business and trade. They were interested in making money.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

Are you kidding me?

"Answer: Because he is a paid disinformation agent and he makes a killing from those who are fumbling in the dark and easily pulled by the nose."

You know, there's a reason why I throughout the history of this website had to take a break from time to time. Every once in a while someone just have to jump in and stamp their shitstained mark on other peoples efforts and submissions. I've been around for a while and I've witnessed the 'distraction'-argument being used over, and over, and over, and over again. It's a God damn mantra.
Who the hell are you to judge someone to be a disinfo agent? If you don't know anything about this subject then please just...

And please elaborate! What 25% disinfo? Please just elaborate or erase your entire post 'cause it seems to be complete hogwash. You actually had to sit down and take your own precious time to write your this completely useless non-contributing entry into this thread. At least genuine trolls leave quick condescending remarks and leave it at that.

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