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are you a 14th Amendment citizen?

Ive posted information like this before, but I have condensed it to an easy to determine post!

If the 14th Amendment made all citizens equal, then why did we need a 15th and 19th Amendment to allow black men and women to vote?

This is a VERY telling piece of case law:

    "It is quite clear, then, that there is a citizenship of the United States and a citizenship of a State, which are distinct from each other and which depend upon different characteristics or circumstances in the individual. "
    [Slaughter House Cases, 83 U.S. 36][(1873) emphasis added]

Two terms were used here, Characteristics OR Circumstance.

You should note that the term Characteristics means:
char·ac·ter·is·tic (kār'ək-tə-rĭs'tĭk)
adj. Being a feature that helps to distinguish a person or thing;

This provides evidence that a 14th Amendment citizen was either a black man or a woman as distinguished from white men by their characteristics, AND later white men volunteered to be 14th Amendment citizens by "circumstance".

conclusion:
14th Amendment citizens are equal, but not because blacks and women regained their God given rights, but because whites gave them up.

Unfortunately this country, and the Constitution, was established by white men, therefore, the intent of the Constitution was to protect them. If we presume that the 14th Amendment actually made all black men and women equal to the "We the People" White man, then we have to construe that the racist administration* was ok with a black man being eligible to be President, but not being able to vote for himself??

*only years before the 14th Amendment, Lincoln signed this proposed Amendment:

    "ARTICLE THIRTEEN, No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State."

Did Lincoln and his entire administration change their minds on slavery in the matter of 3 years?
OR, did the legislators of the day find a way to create the appearance of a noble act by creating a new class of "citizen of the United States"?
NOTE, the "c" in citizen is in lower case in the 14th Amendment for the FIRST TIME in the entire Constitution. I think this was to give the courts an 'out' if they ever had to rule on whether black men and women were, for example, eligible to be President.

    "The first clause of the fourteenth amendment made negroes citizens of the United States**, and citizens of the State in which they reside, and thereby created two classes of citizens, one of the United States** and the other of the state."
    [Cory et al. v. Carter, 48 Ind. 327]
    [(1874)]

OVER the next years, Americans, white and black, begun to declare themselves 14th Amendment citizens, thus giving up many of their constitutional rights, hence volunteering into servitude!! DONT FORGET the 13th Amendment had just legalized "Voluntary servitude".

This case VERY CLEARLY shows that "citizen", "as those words were used" is absolutely different than "Citizen" as originally used:

    "The right to trial by jury in civil cases, guaranteed by the 7th Amendment…and the right to bear arms guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment…have been distinctly held not to be privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States guaranteed by the 14th Amendment…and in effect the same decision was made in respect of the guarantee against prosecution, except by indictment of a grand jury, contained in the 5th Amendment…and in respect of the right to be confronted with witnesses, contained in the 6th Amendment…it was held that the indictment, made indispensable by the 5th Amendment, and trial by jury guaranteed by the 6th Amendment, were not privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, as those words were used in the 14th Amendment. We conclude, therefore, that the exemption from compulsory self-incrimination is not a privilege or immunity of National citizenship guaranteed by this clause of the 14th Amendment."
    [Twining v. New Jersey, 211 US 78, 98-99]




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Wow, this is very interesting

thanks, for sharing it with us. I struggle sometimes with all the lawyer type information. It is my hope that we NOT go back in the sense of deceptive maneuvers to keep people down but to FULFILL the promises that had been projected to the masses.
Let us be the messengers of Freedom to all men and women. The founders had an idea that EXCLUDED others but let us be the ones to INCLUDE all.

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

"We might say that such

"We might say that such regulations were unjust, tyrannical, unfit for the regulation of an intelligent state; but, if rights of a citizen are thereby violated, they are of that fundamental class, derived from his position as a citizen of the state, and not those limited rights belonging to him as a citizen of the United States; and such was the decision in Corfield v. Coryell."
[The United States v. Susan B. Anthony (11 2nd. Jud. Cir.] 200, 1873)

see:
"[W]e find nothing…which requires that a citizen of a state must also be a citizen of the United States, if no question of federal rights or jurisdiction is involved."
[Crosse v. Bd. of Supvrs of Elections, 221 A.2d. 431 (1966) ]

see:
"United States citizenship does not entitle citizens to rights and privileges of state citizenship."
[K. Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236, 256 P. 545 (1927), 48 Supreme Court. 527.]

Blacks at the time

Blacks at the time 'benefited' greatly by the 14th amendment, that is no doubt.

The civil rights act applies to all "citizens of the united states" "regardless of race". This means, that IF white Constitutional "we the people" Citizens with full protection of common law and all unalienable rights declared to be a 14th amendment "citizen of the United States", then they traded all those human rights for civil rights, and we know what civil rights are.

BUT, the question is...How does a white Constitutional "We the People" Citizen give up his rights in exchange for government granted civil rights, which equates to servitude, because your taxes are taken in exchange for some 'benefit' that you may or may not want?

The answer is the 13th Amendment. In this Amendment it allows that all free white men may lawfully volunteer into servitude.

:(

I am a (c)itizen of the UNITED STATES, and a (C)itizen of my territory (I think, Most likely a (c)tizen too).

why not do whatever we can to

why not do whatever we can to make people free and equal without expanding government?

why not do whatever we can to

why not do whatever we can to make people free and equal without expanding government?

A person may be a citizen

A person may be a citizen of the United States** and yet be not identified or identifiable as a citizen of any particular state.

[Du Vernay v. Ledbetter]

[61 So.2d 573, emphasis added]