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FCC Moves to Regulate the Internet...Senate Bill Would Claim Entire Internet as US 'Asset'

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The Federal Communications Commission is set to begin a move to regulate the Internet.

According to CNSNews.com, by a “3-2 party-line vote on Thursday at the FCC,” the agency “began the formal process of reclassifying the Internet as a telecommunications service instead of an information service — it’s current classification.”

Currently, as an information service, the FCC can exercise only “ancillary” authority, which does not allow it to regulate the Internet directly. If the Internet is reclassified, the agency would gain greater regulatory control.

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Senate Bill Would Give Obama Internet ‘Kill Switch’
Lieberman Bill Would Claim Entire Internet as US 'Asset'

The introduction of a new Senate bill, S.3480, dubbed the “Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010,” is sparking concerns about a massive power grab over the Internet under the guise of “national security.”

The bill, proposed by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I – CT) claims the entire Internet, the whole global computer network and everything on it, as a “national asset” of the United States, and seeks to give President Obama the power to seize control over broad swaths of it with no oversight during a “National Cyber Emergency,” which would itself be something the president would be able to declare at any time.

But easily the most controversial aspect of the nearly 200 page bill is what is being called a “kill switch,” granting the president the power to shut down the entire Internet across the planet for national security reasons. Sen. Collins (R – ME), a supporter of the bill, claimed it was necessary to prevent a “cyber 9/11.”

The bill amounts to a remarkable claim of presidential power, claiming a large portion of the global economy as a specific asset of the United States and further claiming the right to nationalize or destroy it in whole or part on a whim.

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Goodbye, Lieberman...

don't let the door hit you in your droopy asssssss...and PLEASE take your lap "puppet" McInsaNE WITH Y0U....

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

Wake up.

Comment on the FCC's page

about the New FCC Power Grab of the Internet. The Dead Line on making comments ends july 15th!

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/

The DP is proof that the grassroots support for Ron Paul and his peaceful message of individual liberty is large, real, and not going away!

WIll not work.

They will try to regulate and tax everything on the internet. Everything will become expensive and undesirable. Corporate advertisements will become mandatory for websites etc.

That is when the sheeple and people turn off the televisions, computers, get together, and spread the seeds of liberty once again.

Just try it. I dare you.

Again two of the same

We try to pit the corporations against the government, when they are one and the same. A corporation by its meaning is a socialist construct. To alleviate the burden from the individual. Corporations are socialism. Either you own it or you don't and if you own it you are responsible for its actions. Corporations create the scape goat. I just invested with this business I really didn't have anything to do with it's problems. If you own BP stock, You should pay. Period. If you own a tree that falls on your neighbors house, You should compensate them for the loss. Only in National Socialism is it Ok to harm your neighbor and not have to pay. With all Socialism, Its for the good of the country as a whole. Bullcrap!!!!

I hate rude behavior in a man. Won't tolerate it.

these assholes....

just dont stop, do they?

Oppression and more...

Oppression!!!

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."

Um Hello Ma' Bell; She's got the Ill Communication

What is with the evil corporations, leftist slant? Fine; yes there are corporatist entities such as AT&T, Verizon blah blah blah who have lobbied for monopoly "districts", however this is not the case everywhere.

Living in a rural area, my little local ISP provides "Radio Broadband" which through multiple tests over a period of a year routinely outperforms my previous Comcast internet.

Moreover, yes Virginia, these private companies, who spent capital to build the networks can decide who and what sort of traffic runs on their infrastructure and thus charge accordingly.

If the market is allowed to work and copyright law can be unperverted, then eventually the market will result in offering unrestricted full throttle use at a higher per month charge.

The problem in my mind lies not whether the companies can police their own assets, i.e. routers, switches, hubs, and backbones, but...

is solely based on the perversion of copyright such as DCMA and its ilk.

Once upon a time, without profit, there was no intellectual property infringement.

Allison Bricker

http://SmArgus.com

"None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Leftist Slant My hind end

You can defend National Socialism if you want. ie... corporate government partnerships that restrict a free and open market. Yes they spent capitol to build networks, but under government protection from competition. You sound more like a regular republican. Corporate socialism is Ok?
Government is the force used to restrict the free market.

I hate rude behavior in a man. Won't tolerate it.

I can tell you without fail

....the local ISP which is a small business who started to capitalize on the niche market of providing rural broadband has not lobbied to gain protection, the looked and FOUND a way around the Local Access network Fees from the rural teleco trunk lines by offering Radio internet.

Thus by avoiding the upstream charge to connect to the main router in Chicago Indianapolis, et cetera they can offer a competitive product speed-wise and at a valuable cost.

So sorry, yes the little ISP can and does restrict Pirate traffic and they are fully within their rights.

How you managed to twist in that I "support" corporate welfare is beyond me as no such iteration was ever made.

It comes down to property rights and the receivers, the antennae are all the property of the ISP, subscribers merely rent access to the upstream, hence it is their property and their right to see how it is used.

Perhaps thinking a bit more deeply will help you avoid such a knee-jerk assumption in the future.

Allison Bricker

http://SmArgus.com

"None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Everyone is missing the most important fact.

Do you have the choice of which cable company you use? I don't. The government decided which monopoly cable company I was forced to use. Sure I can use satellite, but that is semantics. We have government controlled monopolies in control of the internet today. The cable and telephone companies control all access to the internet. If you allow these companies to decide what you can access and what you cannot access it is a slippery slope toward government control of all media. Sorry, I do not see cable and telephone companies as separate from the government. They have for years gained protective law enforcement from competition. They are fascist companies that need to be disbanded. The government is the problem, but you folks have to realize some companies are complicit or even progressive in passing laws that kill competition.

I hate rude behavior in a man. Won't tolerate it.

of course...

the companies benefit from the government protection - why worry about streamlining your performance and becoming more efficient when the consumers have no other alternative? Might as well just raise prices....

most intervention is done on behalf of the producer/special interest involved. rather than on behalf of the consumer. its a complete ignorance of economic science.

You're right! the government is the problem - as it is force. the entire state is an institution that by its nature violates voluntary exchange and free contract. the state is the enemy of freedom, capitalism, and peace.

f**k the state!

With either communism or

With either communism or fascism (like there's really a difference), the distinction between business and government becomes blurred. The only real difference is which side is in control.

In the US, the businesses control the government and get everyone to believe the government is trying to control businesses so the masses will be fooled into fighting the government, that way the businesses can gain even more power. In communist societies, it's exactly the opposite. The government has all the power and uses its propaganda tool to blame the private interests. Truth is there's really no difference anymore between big business and big government.

There is no free republic, not while fascism or communism reign supreme and the free market is suppressed. Not while the public keeps buying into this false left/right paradigm where communism and fascism are *chuckle* equal and opposite extremes!

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

The government / politicians

The government / politicians (for the most part) wrecks nearly everything that they get their hands on...

...

More cartelization coming our way.

History of cartels and cartels with monopoly power sponsored by government. A Lecture given by Murry Rothbard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta7q1amDAN4

The Heath Care Program cartelized the the health care/insurance system. Work on this project began around 2004 or earlier.

Railroads and banking are the two most famous government sponsored cartels with monopoly power operating without Congressional oversight.

More cartelization is coming our way, this time the Internet.

Free includes debt-free!

I propose a bill to arrest Lieberman.

He's one of the most dangerous criminals in Congress.

Sempiternal IS RIGHT...

"I propose a bill to arrest Lieberman."

I SECOND THAT!

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Stats show that...

Lieberman is out in 2012. Lets pray. Schumer is unchallenged (so far) in New York for 2010. We really need an "in your face" liberty candidate to run against this "person." Everybody knows that New York politics (like Chicago) is "on the take." This must stop NOW! Schumer go home in 2010!

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

I propose we pass an

I propose we pass an amendment stripping them of any and all authority to regulate commerce.

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

Interesting Territory

Can you "own" something created by DARPA via research that included multiple nationalities? Were the tubes ever declared a gift to society without copyrights and patents? This is like virtual property ownership.

Interesting indeed.

We should all be alarmed by

We should all be alarmed by the prospect of government control of the INTERNET but there are many ways to communicate between like minded folks. Once again freedom is popular. Unlike a few years ago, a vast number of patriots in this country today have woke up -- thanks primarily to Ron Paul and the INTERNET. Our numbers have grown exponentially over the last three-four years. The tooth paste is out of the tube so to speak and there is no way the government can put it back in the tube without a huge mess. If they try, the mess will cause an even bigger mess. The numbers are in our favor.

I urge DP, C4L, and all other blogs/organizations to duplicate their membership rolls and protect them at all costs. If push comes to shove we will find a way to communicate with each other.

It will be a firestorm about this!

The origianl idea behind the military developing the internet was to have a way to maintain communications during an emergency. They are turning the idea upside down. Someone is going to get to Lie ber man before it's over!

Instead of completely taking

Instead of completely taking it over, they will compromise and regulate and tax the hell out of it and makes us think we achived a victory because at least we still have it. Too bad us little people will not be able to afford it any longer.

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

The next big plan by the elite is to buy

the major infrastructures on earth like highways, shipping yards, national parks, etc. Wouldn't they love to get their hands on the internet!

The press has always been dangerous to the state.

That is why governments have traditionally tried to "suppress" the press, and that is why the first amendment attempted to prevent them from doing so.

But now that the federal government has become strong enough to thumb their nose at the Bill of Rights, it does not surprise me that they are moving to control the internet. After all, the internet is a press for the people to publish to one another.

Hey, they think they own us, so it is not surprising that they claim ownership of the internet also.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Maybe they'll pass it just in time to block

a new WikiLeaks video of civilian carnage in Afghanistan:

Jonsdottir also added to widespread speculation in recent days that Wikileaks was about to release a new video, this once showing an alleged “massacre” of Afghan civilians in a U.S. airstrike.

She called it “worse than the Iraqi one,” referencing the video Wikileaks previously released showing a U.S. helicopter attack on Iraqi citizens that caused an international uproar.

In a recent e-mail to supporters, Assange said “the Garani massacre, which we are still working on, killed over 100 people, mostly children.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/06/new_wikileak...

It would be easier to amend

It would be easier to amend the constitution and strip all levels of government of all authority to regulate commerce.

I am out of touch with most Americans precisely because I am not out of touch with reality.

so.. why am i the only one up there that countered the bogus

comment made by that ignorant guy on the article this link sends to? they don't even require registration to post comments. save some energy posting on dp perhaps? who doesn't know what you want to say already?

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I added a comment

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If you have time to watch

this is food for thought- Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks, at the Oslo Freedom Forum a few months ago.

http://www.oslofreedomforum.com/speakers/julian-assange.html

From the video:

"We are now approaching the state of Orwell's perfect dictum, that he who controls the present also controls the past. He who controls the internet servers controls the intellectual record of mankind, and by controlling that, controls our perceptions of who we are, and by controlling that, controls what laws and regulations we make in society."

By the way, WikiLeaks is, according to Assange, impenetrable. According to an article in the New Yorker:

Assange calls the site "an uncensorable system for untraceable mass document leaking and public analysis," and a government or company that wanted to remove content from WikiLeaks would have to practically dismantle the Internet itself.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/06/07/100607fa_fact_...

I guess they're thinking it's time to start doing that.