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Ron Paul: Feds Spend $400/gal on Gas in Afghanistan

This is an unofficial illustrated version of Ron Paul's upcoming July 12 broadcast on Afghanistan. And you thought a few $69 toilet seats were a big deal!

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Full text from Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk, July 12, 2010:

Funding Corruption and Waste in Afghanistan

Last week, GOP chairman Michael Steele came under fire for daring to say what a lot of Americans already know – that our involvement in Afghanistan is an ill-advised quagmire with no end in sight. After nearly 10 years and approaching $1 trillion spent, the conflict is going nowhere because there is nowhere for it to go. After all, if victory is never really defined, defeat is inevitable.

With our economy at home in serious trouble, this wasteful occupation is something we clearly cannot afford. Each soldier costs us $1 million per year, and yet most in Washington are only considering how many more soldiers to send. Fuel costs an astonishing $400 per gallon for our military in Afghanistan! Yet somehow, many politicians feel it is acceptable to squeeze this money out of our taxpayers, who are truly struggling economically, to fund this non-war. Our economy here is not showing any real signs of improvement. Official unemployment is pushing 10% and getting worse. (Real unemployment is over 20%, according to the free-market economists.) The growing debt and inflation used to fund this occupation only dooms us to more economic hardship for a long time to come. And - for what?

Where the money for Afghanistan comes from is one problem – where it goes is another. Recently, it has come to light that much of the aid money we send to Afghanistan is lost due to corruption. Billions of tax dollars from hardworking Americans are ending up lining the pockets of corrupt Afghan officials, and likely even filtering into the Taliban we are ostensibly fighting. The Wall Street Journal recently reported that curiously enough, billions more than the Afghan government collects in revenue is leaving the country in the form of cash on huge pallets and in suitcases and mostly ending up in Dubai, as well-connected Afghan officials buy up luxury homes and enrich their personal off-shore bank accounts. Investigations into corruption and graft have been blocked by the Karzai government, probably because Karzai’s own brother would have to be implicated. It is encouraging that the foreign aid appropriations subcommittee has attempted to block billions in aid as a response to these allegations, but this is likely temporary and may not even succeed.

The point is that sending aid money to Afghanistan is not making poor people over there better off. It is making poor people here worse off. Corruption is endemic to Afghanistan, with graft comprising about one fourth of their economy! Even though it is considered the second most corrupt nation in the world according to Transparency International, we still send the Afghan government billions of dollars in aid and are shocked to find it is not making its way out of the sticky fingers of the officials entrusted with it.

Robbing citizens here to fund corruption over there is not helping average citizens anywhere. We are sacrificing real economic opportunities at home for the opportunity to line corrupt pockets in Afghanistan. Not only that, but American soldiers are being killed and maimed. It is tragic and frustrating how much we have lost and wasted already. It is time to leave Afghanistan to the Afghans to sort out. I am glad more Americans are finally willing to face this reality.

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all military fuel is not "gasoline"...and is "fully burdened"

both jet fuel (check out the unmanned aircraft high octane fuel costs) and naval fuels are more expensive than "gasoline" on a "fully burdened basis" (and consider Af. is a land locked country...meaning much fuel goes by air...and ground fuel is frequently lost via attack)

"fully burdened" is a hugely encompassing term...(meaning all kinds of costs are covered...not just the base fuel cost)

Ron Paul used the term "fuel"....not gas as is used in this title...

so a natural skew resulted...

(not defending military spending, war making, or government purchasing policies)

the audit of the House Appropriations is RP's source I believe (at the Hill)

cee cee

"...and ground fuel is

"...and ground fuel is frequently lost via attack"

Wow I wonder why they are attacking? I'm sure that wouldn't be the fault of New Moscow.

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So let me get this straight....

So let me get this straight....We're paying up the pipe to Saudi Arabia to give us our fuel, but now there was a disaster....so we're paying $400 per gallon directly to BP in the US just to be able to fuel our cars!?!?

And per day that's well over $50,000? Is this what I'm hearing now?

Gives new meaning to the word boycott!

NO. As I see it, the $400/gal

NO. As I see it, the $400/gal price was agreed to, WAY b4 the drilling disaster. The US government pays it in Afghanistan. I do not know why..ESPECIALLY with 2 former Presidents in the oil business and many more in bed with them. I get DEALS when I know someone who sells something I need--what is really going on here?

check out pricing

on military jet and unmanned aircraft fuels and on naval fuels for vessels...on "fully burdened basis" and there is your answer....

guessing since it is "OUR" money, not 'theirs'

there is no effort to hedge fuel prices or contracts

cee cee

DO NOT BOYCOTT BP Service Stations!!

The vast majority are independently owned. You are not punishing BP, just the middle class service station owner trying to make a "living".

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Another Source

here is another source for people not wanting to believe ron paul: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/63407-400gallon-g...

Since no one seems to know

Since no one seems to know who we are buying this gas from at such a price, I am beginning to think it is not true. I wonder where RP got his facts, then..?

I see it ..still no mention

I see it ..still no mention of who is selling us the gas at the exorbitant price..I put a message up there that may get posted. This is some sort of profit that is being made, and we need to find out, because it is going to keep this ridiculous war going..

I just sent a note to RP. Maybe he will tell us..

RP used the term FUEL, not "gas"

aviation and naval fuels are expensive....and are not "gas"

the title of this post is flawed: as gasoline does NOT equate to fuel, but is a subset

hope that helps answer your question

cee cee

What would you sell a gallon for

if you bought it in the US for $1.04 (from the article) and sent it via train to the coast, put it on a ship to the mideast, trucked it to where you could and the flew it on a helicopter to some remote military base in Afganistan? The transportatin is why it's so expensive. They even said that the helicopter ride just barely delivers more fuel than it takes to fuel the chopper.

Kick Ass or Buy Gas

The American disaster in Afghanistan runs, in significant part, on BP-produced fuel, and government payments for that fuel are bolstering BP while it lives through its purgatory in the Gulf.

Kick Ass or Buy Gas by Nick Turse
How Taxpayers Are Subsidizing BP’s Disaster Through the Pentagon

excerpted~so read in full

In 2009, according to the Defense Energy Support Center, the military awarded $22.5 billion in energy contracts. More than $16 billion of that went to purchasing bulk fuel. Some 10 top petroleum suppliers got the lion’s share, more than $11.5 billion, among them big names like Shell, Exxon Mobil and Valero. The largest contractor, however, was BP, which received more than $2.2 billion — almost 12% of all petroleum-contract dollars awarded by the Pentagon for the year.

between June 2007 and February 2010, BP received a total of 862 citations, mostly for alleged violations of "OSHA’s process safety management standard, a sweeping rule governing everything from storage of flammable liquids to emergency shutdown systems." Of these citations, 760 were considered "egregious willful," which OSHA defines as a violation even more severe than those committed due to "plain indifference" or evidencing "intentional disregard for employee health and safety." As a result, BP faces $90 million in penalties which the company is currently contesting.

Over those same years, BP received around $5.7 billion in federal contracts, according to official government data. In fact, the $2.2 billion the Pentagon paid to the oil giant in 2009 accounted for almost 16% of the company’s nearly $14 billion in annual profits.

read in full
http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/2010/06/17/kick-ass-o...

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side note:
A 2007 report shows 151 members of congress personally invested in DoD Contracts to the tune of $195 million.

There is a list also of congress members that recieve millions in lobby money from the oil industry.

And the beat goes on...

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

..But now today, I am even

..But now today, I am even madder.. Lessee..the oil comes from US, out of OUR gulf, and we got to pay $400/ gal for it? I mean..feasibly we could ship it over there when our troops go there..? And GEEZE, so many of our former presidents are in the oil business themselves..I mean, you would think they would at LEAST sell it to our own country, wholesale..
This lack of business sense infuriates me. These are the people trying to regulate business? My GOD, they can not know a thing about it.

SO! And thanks libertyb, it

SO! And thanks libertyb, it is MOSTLY BP..so they do not bring the gas to Afghanistan FROM the US, #1, most likely..
#2, unlike the above comment, it is not like each gallon is shipped separately, to there. If it was each gallon by itself, LOL, maybe I cd see $400, though I doubt it. It is no more than a boat ride different than how we get it here. Do NONE of those govt. contract awarders know how to run a business?
This BP crap is unreal, and with the OSHA stuff, which should come out, we need to cease all contracts with this company, only allow them to drill under strict safety scrutiny, and let the sheople know what is going on..Now they will raise the gas price to $600/gal, if not.

$400/gallon ? GOOD !

The sooner the USG bankrupts itself and collapses, the better. Spend spend spend !!

How do you make this go viral?

The liberals where I live are involved with "Transition Towns", (UN Agenda 21) a bundling of Climate Change and Peak Oil. I confronted a liberal friend on Transitional Towns saying that they would be doing a better job of saving the planet and America by ending foreign occupations and wars that consume massive amounts of energy. And to top it off I said, "When I see a line of bikes at the meeting instead of cars, I'll start to believe you actually want to do something than try to control me and my life." The response was, "That's not fair."

The only reality the majority of Americans seems to face is government benefits. Even Ron Paul, Dr No or Dr Know, admits he has to be a "pig at the trough" to win local votes.

We are in Afghanistan to maintain the war on drugs at home. If you really want a job, go to prison, that's where manufactoring is happening. We don't need illegal immigration competing with convict labor, and that's where Arizona is at.. Las Vegas and Reno are going belly up and "Atlas has shrugged", and If Ron Paul is John Galt, then this message needs to go viral, eh?

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"Transition Towns", (UN Agenda 21), Peak Oil

Doesn't sound like Individual Liberty to me, The Granger, but I could use an education on these terms, please.

One thing: About your liberal friend, I'm almost ashamed to say I'm an environmentalist or that my favorite color is(was) green.

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Now, much to my chagrin, I

Now, much to my chagrin, I have been thinking about this all day, and I wanna know ONE thing?
Just who is charging us $400/gal for gas? I mean, who in the H are we buying it from?
Does any one know? Please help me 'cause i am gonna be bugged until I find out.

Help! I gotta know...

Help! I gotta know...

The US military is the 14th highest user of oil in the WORLD.

In fact, our military uses more fuel than Greece.
And Greece today is well, in financial crisis.

US Military Steps on the Gas
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"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

$400.? MAN! Wonder how he

$400.? MAN! Wonder how he found all this stuff out? THIS is what he should be bringing up on the talk shows..all this financial skulduggery he knows about.

For this, and many more shennanigans to occur,

we must conclude that our trusted politicians are either ignorant, or evil. Well, ignorant they ain't! So that leaves us with "evil". They've misused the trust we've so naively given them, and we've seemed to have lost the fortitude to do anything about it. Ron Paul champions honesty. Run Ron Run.

alan laney

Taking a vote at the polls.....

.....And choosing the first candidate that pops up is like shooting yourself in the foot.

Looking up the candidate's record, and then searching to see if they show up with the words "AIPAC" "CFR" or "Lockheed Martin" next to them - not to mention "Bilderberg" - will tell you what that candidate supports.

If they show up next to any of these groups or lobbyists, DON'T even CONSIDER voting for them. They are scum sucking neo-liberal fascists no matter what they say on TV.

If their name does not show up next to any of those groups, then vote for them and keep on their but every day just like Ron Paul.

That way they'll never fall into a shady lobby's hands. IT'S A FACT.

Only politicians with no morals fall to the sway of shady, morally bankrupt lobbies. The rest will not be swayed. For that to occur, they would have to be already corrupt to begin with.

Politicians are Not Ignorant

They have mastered the art of effectively fooling the people. People need to wise up and elect the right ones.

Thank you Dr. Paul. I am one

Thank you Dr. Paul. I am one of many Americans that have lost their home because of the huge tax burden levied on the people in America. It is unethical and immoral to take away the hard earned income from American citizens and use it to murder innocent people in foreign lands.

A couple of weeks ago I was watching CNN GPS With Fareed Zakaria. He asked for comments on his show. I sent him the following email.

"Hello, I would like to comment on the KRUGMAN VS FERGUSON segment of your show."

"I agree we need another stimulus, however the stimulus must empower the consumer. The consumer must have purchasing power to stimulate the economy . In other words, economic growth should be from the ground up, not the top down. A suspension of individual income taxes will empower the people and result in the purchase of more goods and services. The new influx of money will create a stable climate for all businesses -- small and large -- to build, thereby creating employment opportunities. Also taxes should be suspended for all small businesses with incomes of 2 million dollars or less. A small consumption tax could be used to bridge the tax gap until the economy is stabilized and enough revenue flows into the Treasury to finance the government."

"Adding more stimulus with government control is not the answer, nor is inaction a viable solution to our economic crises. Either scenario will only result in continuing -- possibly speeding up - the downward spiral the economy is in today. Congress must act soon. God help us if the dollar collapses before they act to save the economy."

Folks we must insist that our government stop spending our tax dollars for these insane wars and bring our troops home. Also, the Congress must empower the consumer by eliminating the Federal Income Tax -- NOW!

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lol

They are not squeezing anything out of me..I'm done funding these clowns..They can go suck a tailpipe..

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ditto

ditto