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Do you all think we're TRULY getting all sides of this story or all points-of-views?

Anti-vaccine group accused of harassing parents

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/australian-news/7573177/antivac...

The New South Wales Health Care Complaints Commission (HCCC) has compiled a damning report into Australia's most prominent anti-vaccination group, the Australian Vaccination Network (AVN).

The HCCC accuses the AVN of providing inaccurate and misleading information and selectively quoting research out of context to argue against vaccination.

The report has also noted accusations that the AVN harassed the parents of a child who died of whooping cough last year, after the parents advocated the importance of childhood vaccination.

Meryl Dorey runs the AVN from a home office on the north coast of NSW.

The AVN provides anti-vaccination information through its website, magazine and seminars.

An investigation by the HCCC into the AVN has found the information it provides to parents is inaccurate and misleading.

But Ms Dorey told ABC1's Lateline the investigation was biased.

"This was not an independent investigation - this was an investigation by an organisation that set out to support government policy, which is pro-vaccination," she said.

"We do not agree that the HCCC has any jurisdiction over us and we have been telling them this from the very beginning, and we are seeking legal advice on this issue."

Ken McLeod is the man who took the initial complaint against the AVN to the HCCC.

He says the AVN's anti-vaccination stance is indefensible.

"I remember as a six-year-old seeing the look of horror on my father's face as the doctor told him my sister had polio, and my mother just being so shattered," he said.

"I remember going to the hospital ward in Townsville and it was an entire ward full of dozens of kids, little babies with polio, and it was awful - absolutely awful.

"Only a year or so later the polio vaccine came and this just disappeared. It was like magic and it was just wonderful, and all these years later you now find people who are trying to set the clock back 50 years."

Mr McLeod says the AVN are "a bunch of ratbags".

"I mean reason and science just does not break through [to them]," he said.

"They're not interested in reality, they're interested in conspiracy theories and junk science."

More and more people rely on the internet for health care information.

If you Google "vaccination", the AVN comes up second on the list of sites. But nowhere on its website does the AVN declare it is an anti-vaccination organisation.

But Ms Dorey says the AVN has never claimed to "provide both sides of the story".

"Our position is to provide information that balances the information that parents get from their doctors and from the Government," she said.

Harassment claims

Dana McCaffery died of whooping cough in March last year.

She was 32 days old - too young to be vaccinated against the disease also known as pertussis.

What her parents Toni and Dave did not realise was that they lived in an area with one of the lowest rates of childhood vaccination in the nation, and one of the highest rates of whooping cough.

The McCaffery's live just a few kilometres from the headquarters of the AVN.

They say they have been harassed by the AVN since their daughter died and that the AVN has made repeated claims that Dana did not die of pertussis.

"Our daughter wasn't even buried and it began," Ms McCaffery said.

"It began the day before her funeral, it began with phone calls to the health department to get her medical records, contending she didn't die of pertussis."

An email from Paul Corben, the director of Public Health at the North Coast Area Health Service, backs up Ms McCaffery's claims.

In the email, Mr Corben says Ms Dorey called him on March 12 seeking details of Dana's death and accusing him of misleading the public by attributing the cause to pertussis.

Ms Dorey denies the claims. She repeatedly says Dana "supposedly" died of pertussis, but the McCaffery's say that is an offensive claim.

"It's the most offensive statement because I watched over five days my beautiful daughter suffer the most agonising death," Ms McCaffery said.

"Then to be put in a position where I have to prove that she died of pertussis, that's even crueller."

Mr McCaffery says Ms Dorey is "diminishing the fact that pertussis can and does kill".

"It is going to lead to someone making a decision that could put their baby or their family at risk, and that's not right," he said.

The McCaffery's have made their own complaint to the HCCC about the AVN.

They have continued to advocate publicly for vaccination and say the AVN continues to publish false and hurtful comments about them.

They say an AVN representative posted a message on Facebook urging them to "tell the whole story".

"One day I hope the parents of this baby tell the whole story and are able to see how they have been used by a group of ruthless scumbags with alterior (sic) motives," the Facebook post said.

"Then maybe they will be able to honour their child's life with the truth."

Mr McCaffery says the comment is "reprehensible".

"To suggest that we're being used by a group of people - that we're not honouring our daughter's life with the truth - is just reprehensible. They are terrible people," he said.

The HCCC report is expected to be made public within the next two weeks.

The AVN has been given 14 days to comply with the HCCC's findings and place a statement on their website telling consumers they provide anti-vaccination information and that the information should not be read as medical advice.

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A Grieving Family and Baseless Accusations (Meryl Dorey)

Submitted by America Loves R... on Mon, 08/09/2010 - 12:26.

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Here's another response direct from Meryl Dorey regarding the whole accusation that AVN members were harassing the family of a little girl who passed away:

A Grieving Family and Baseless Accusations

http://avn.org.au/nocompulsoryvaccination/?p=776

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Letter-to-editor sent in to papers by Meryl Dorey of AVN

Submitted by America Loves R... on Sun, 08/08/2010 - 11:15.

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Meryl has sent in this incredible letter to numerous publications around Australia.

It's my pleasure to share it with all of you here.

And PLEASE support her in any way you possibly can. She is one of the most courageous and level-headed persons we have in this fight for personal liberty:

http://avn.org.au/nocompulsoryvaccination/

Letter to the Editor – Witch-hunt of vaccine safety watchdog

August 8th, 2010

The following letter has been sent to newspapers and magazines across Australia. If you see this letter (or a version of it since the media generally edits anything we write in) in your local paper, could you please write and let me know? Also, if you feel that the coverage of this issue has been grossly unfair, write your own letter to your local newspaper and cc me at meryl@avn.org.au

The Australian Vaccination Network has been vilified in the media in recent weeks. While it is the media’s job to expose wrongdoing when it has been found, it is not their job to act as judge, jury and executioner.

Newspapers and radio stations have been reporting ridiculous lies stating that the AVN believes in reptilian aliens and mind-control chips. They got this misinformation from Mr Ken McLeod, an active member of a group that has set out to either shut our small, volunteer-run organisation down or shut us up in any way they can. That is their agenda. What is the media’s excuse?

And while this beat-up has been taking place, 136 of 139 pharmaceutical and vaccine manufacturing facilities in Australia have failed their TGA audits – yet this hasn’t merited so much as a mention in the press. It seems that drug companies have a privileged position in our society while vaccine safety watchdogs are shut down quicker than you can say ‘Pan Pharmaceuticals!’

The AVN was formed in 1994 due to a lack of information in the community on the downsides of vaccination. We were started by a group of parents whose children had reacted to this medical procedure and the health practitioners who had helped us.

Daily, we provide support and information to parents in Australia and overseas who are seeking medically-based, fully-referenced data on vaccines. Daily, we help parents report their children’s serious and sometimes fatal reactions to the Australian government because their doctors have refused to do so.

Vaccines are not compulsory. It was previously not illegal to criticise vaccines.

The AVN are vaccine whistleblowers and, like all organisations that are perceived to threaten an entrenched status quo, we are now being victimised by a group that openly states their object is to stop us in any way they can. Their tactics include death threats, threats of violence, calling our supporters to threaten them, filing complaints with every government body they can think of and generally inciting fear, hatred and violence towards us in the community – all with the support and cooperation of the government and the media.

That this organisation has used these tactics is shameful and should be taken seriously by the authorities.

That the media and government bodies such as the HCCC have cooperated with them – even sending people who request more information about the current ‘investigations’ to their website – is criminal.

It is time the Australian people learned the truth about the coordinated attacks on the Australian Vaccination Network by those who want, above all, to stop anyone questioning the safety or effectiveness of vaccines.

I invite everyone who is interested in knowing more about the facts behind these attacks to read the documents that can be found at http://scr.bi/cpfdTe and on our website, www.avn.org.au

Meryl Dorey

Australian Vaccination Network

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First they censor....

Submitted by Libera_me on Wed, 08/04/2010 - 13:16.

Then they outlaw, then they jail those who stand up for their Constitutional rights.

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Video news report on AVN being investigated

Submitted by America Loves R... on Wed, 08/04/2010 - 12:44.

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Click on this "Lateline" link and scroll through videos on right side to see this interview. The video is titled: "AVN Asked To Defend Charity Status".

Meryl Dorey is much cooler than I'd be able to be in this situation.

OHHHH NOOOOO!!!...phamplets were placed in bounty bags for newborns......INVESTIGATE THE AVN !!!

Can you all BELIEVE how absurd this harassment of the AVN has become?

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Meryl Dorey challenges medical authority to debate

Submitted by America Loves R... on Wed, 08/04/2010 - 09:22.

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AUSTRALIAN Vaccination Network (AVN) spokesperson Meryl Dorey has challenged to publicly debate the benefits and risks of vaccination with Australian Medical Association's vice-president, Dr Steve Hambleton.

http://www.northernstar.com.au/story/2010/08/04/debate-heats...

4th August 2010

AUSTRALIAN Vaccination Network (AVN) spokesperson Meryl Dorey has challenged to publicly debate the benefits and risks of vaccination with Australian Medical Association's vice-president, Dr Steve Hambleton.

Recently the Health Care Complaints Commission (HCCC) decided the Bangalow-based AVN put lives at risk by providing ‘misleading, inaccurate and deceptive information’.

The AVN rejects the HCCC's findings and believes that the HCCC overstepped its mandate when it initiated an investigation of a citizens' group that provides a point of view on a controversial public issue.

The AVN feels that it is important for parents to make the best possible decision for their own families in regards to vaccination and all other health issues and that doctors are not providing enough information to allow them to do so.

“Let Dr Hambleton choose three statements the AVN makes which he feels are either misleading inaccurate or deceptive, gather his information and provide it in a public venue at which parents and other health professionals can attend,” Ms Dorey said.

“By allowing the Australian public an opportunity to hear both sides and judge this issue for themselves, we can advance not only the right to free and informed health choice, but the ability of families to decide for themselves about whether vaccination is right for their children.”

A date is yet to be set for the debate.

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Boy, the Australian media and govt are PANICKING !!!!!!

Submitted by America Loves R... on Mon, 08/02/2010 - 12:37.

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Isn't this hilarious, especially after all the news that the Australian vaccine for H1N1 caused seizures in 1 out of 10 kids under 5 this past year?

How many lies can you all pick out in the following article?

Just because these clowns keep repeating this stuff doesn't make it true.

Misleading Claims About Vaccination Putting Lives At Risk

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/196509.php

AMA Vice President, Dr Steve Hambleton, said today that the AMA is greatly concerned that groups that are promoting discredited theories about immunisation are exposing Australians to the devastating effects of preventable illnesses.

Dr Hambleton said that recent media reports outlining the views of the Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) show that this organisation has drawn the fire of the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission (HCCC).

"It is important for parents to have their children immunised. Immunisation saves lives," Dr Hambleton said.

"While we all value freedom of speech in our society, groups that promote what the NSW HCCC has described as misleading, inaccurate and deceptive information about immunisation, under the guise of 'pro-information' and 'pro-choice', are putting Australians at risk of diseases that can be prevented through vaccination.

"We are almost two generations away from deadly diseases such as tetanus, diphtheria and polio. Our grandparents can remember how bad it was.

"Parents who choose not to immunise their children need to consider that they are putting not only their own children at risk, but they are also risking other children, with potentially fatal consequences.

"If immunisation rates fell because many parents relied on the efforts of other families to vaccinate their children, under the misapprehension that this would provide sufficient protection to the whole community, there would be new epidemics of old illnesses.

"The last outbreak of measles occurred in a school in an area with low immunisation rates. The outbreak was so severe that it interrupted the educational curriculum.

"The NSW HCCC's findings and concerns regarding the AVN released last month are consistent with the views of the medical profession.

"It is critical that Governments promote the evidence and benefits of full immunisation and run an ongoing public education program that informs the public about the devastating effects of diseases that can be avoided through vaccination.

"The AMA welcomes the announcement last week that seasonal flu vaccination of young children can now be resumed, and commends the Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer for taking early action to investigate this matter and the latest advice, which means we can maintain confidence in our vaccination program," Dr Hambleton said.

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bit of good news

Submitted by audienceofone on Wed, 07/28/2010 - 14:09.

They are trying to push these new shots on all sixth graders in my county that are supposed to be for whooping cough two other things I cant remember. They ran all the SHOTS REQUIRED headlines and local news pushed it big time.

Anyhoo what is the good news? They had a huge shot clinic downtown trying to give away free shots. No insurance proof of id nothing, just come on down we will shoot you up. Nobody showed up!!!! There were so few kids there they had to send almost all the nurses back to the "health dept" because they were all just sitting there looking at each other. Oh and this is the largest city in AL.

Just thought I would share. Thanks for that link.

The powers-that-be are panicking

Submitted by America Loves R... on Wed, 07/28/2010 - 22:03.

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That's why Meryl Dorey and her group in Australia are being attacked so violently at the moment.

Their profits are dwindling as kids are becoming less brain-damaged, less cancer, less crohn's disease, less arthritis, less allergies, less autism, less leukemia, less ADHD, etc and so-forth.

If they can't keep screwin' the kids up then the Mercedes will just have to go.

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So true I have to add this

Submitted by audienceofone on Thu, 07/29/2010 - 12:32.

Recently my sisters friend was around who works at a big summer camp for kids in a very rich part of town. She comes from a very rich family and would never dream of questioning shots or anything else. All that stuff is pushed big time on these people because its like the happy hunting ground because they are so spoiled rotten and clueless.

After a couple days of playing with my 5yr old in the swimming pool she told me how totally amazed she was at how smart and athletic he is. Said he was on the same level as the 4th and 5th graders in her camp and had never seen anything like it. Im not bragging on myself, there is no doubt its becaue we stopped the shots years ago and on top of that had a very conservative doctor who never gave him more than one shot at a time.

Same here

Submitted by America Loves R... on Thu, 07/29/2010 - 12:50.

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It seems almost every other kid in the neighborhood and/or playdate friends have asthma and allergies, etc.

My kids may get a slight fever or sniffles every year, but other than that, they NEVER have any chronic problems and they hardly know what the doctor is.

Same as you - NOT bragging - it's just that there IS a difference in health between vaccinated and unvaccinated kids.

I'm not trying to judge those of you have vaccinated your kids - I'm just trying to warn against anyone doing further or future damage to their kids.

I'm on YOUR side. I'm not against you.

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Update out of Australia

Submitted by America Loves R... on Mon, 07/26/2010 - 19:01.

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From the Sydney Morning Herald:

Anti-vaccine group a threat

http://www.smh.com.au/national/antivaccine-group-a-threat-20...

Excerpts:

The Health Care Complaints Commission issued a public warning against the Australian Vaccination Network after it refused to display a disclaimer on its website to inform readers its information should not be taken as medical advice.

Ms Dorey did not return calls yesterday but issued a statement on her website which said the HCCC's recommendation was ''laughable'' and she was seeking legal advice.

''Nobody would expect nuclear safety advocates to issue statements on the benefits of nuclear power; Greenpeace to make films on the pleasures of killing and eating whales … Why then should we be expected to make statements we don't believe are factual and that are not supported by the medical literature?

''If the AVN is expected to show both sides of this issue, why aren't the medical community and the government likewise cited for their lack of disclosure on the risks and ineffectiveness of vaccines?"

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Baby dies after vaccination in Vietnam’s central highlands

Submitted by America Loves R... on Sat, 07/17/2010 - 11:48.

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Apparently the rest of the world operates on different set of physics and their media (albeit communist) allows some truth to get out.

Babies and kids here in the US don't have any adverse reactions like this because the media doesn't talk about it.

If a tree falls in the forest............?

Baby dies after vaccination in Vietnam’s central highlands

http://www.thanhniennews.com/2010/Pages/20100717101748.aspx

Excerpt:

Last updated: 7/17/2010 10:00

An infant (more than three months old) died after receiving an inoculation in the central highlands province of Lam Dong, the local Center of Preventive Health said Friday.

The girl, identified as Ng., received a “five in one” vaccination against diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough), tetanus, hepatitis, and mumps at around 9 a.m. on Thursday, according to the Tan Lam Commune’s health clinic.

Ng turned purple and suffered from respiratory failure that day at home, the center said, stressing that following the vaccination the baby was put under observation for 30 minutes without exhibiting any symptoms at the clinic before going home.

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Little hint, don't mess with people's dead babies

Submitted by MikeLawson on Fri, 07/16/2010 - 07:16.

They don't care for that much. What this group did was wrong on a moral level. What the response has been is wrong on many levels. But it could have been avoided without confronting the parents of a dead child. Maybe the child died from what they say, it doesn't completely negate the anti-vaccine argument if someone dies from a disease--people die from diseases every single day.

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So Mike - how did that go down?

Submitted by America Loves R... on Fri, 07/16/2010 - 07:47.

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Tell us the story of how they "confronted" the parents.

Where is the true story properly documented?

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If the Globalists had their way......

Submitted by SimpleSam on Fri, 07/16/2010 - 06:51.

There would be Diebold machines in every district of every country electing their candidates.

Mark my words. All through a centralized control. Just like centralized banking.

Just imagine centralized elections now....and the whole thing starts to sound horribly sickening.

Australian Medical Assoc head is spreadling lies and fear

Submitted by America Loves R... on Fri, 07/16/2010 - 06:46.

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Folks, he even slips and says "so-called herd immunity" in this article.

This whole myth of "herd immunity" is exactly like when the Wizard in "The Wizard of Oz" (hahaha, no pun intended with "oz") is standing behind the curtain and is found-out by Dorothy-and-co as a HUGE fraud and illusion.

Folks, vaccination didn't stop epidemics nor does it prevent them. It was done by modern-day sanitation/sewage and having food on the table.

Enough of my ranting. Here is the dangerous government official in 'OZ' standing behind the curtain:

AMA boss slams anti-vaccination groups

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/ama-boss-s...

THE head of the Australian Medical Association in WA says parents who don’t immunise their children need to consider that they are putting other children at risk with potentially fatal consequences.
In a blog for WA website wangle.com.au Gary Geelhoed has expressed his frustration at the current vaccination debate, accusing anti-vaccination groups of promoting discredited theories.

Doctor Geelhoed says the benefits of immunisation are clear for all to see.

“I can almost weep when I have young parents tell me in the Emergency Department they have made a choice to not immunise their child, where in the same department over many years I have comforted the parents of children who have either died or suffered irreversible damage due to these preventable infections.”

“Parents, who for whatever reason choose not to immunise their children will probably get away with it due to so called herd immunity, whereby illnesses do not flow freely through communities if the majority are immunised.”

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“The result, if immunisation rates fell to a certain level, would be new epidemics of old illnesses. Though they don’t think of it in these terms such parents are relying on the responsible decisions of those who do vaccinate.”

“This is something more for parents to consider when relying on herd immunity: your child may contract an infection and recover but may be responsible for transmitting the infection to someone who will not survive.”

“While we all value freedom of speech in our society, it is so frustrating to see groups which purport to be giving information about immunisation continue to promote discredited theories.”

HE'S ON THE PAYROLL OF BIG-PHARMA - WHAT ELSE IS HE GONNA SAY ?!?!?!?!

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That's exactly what my favorite ....

Submitted by Libera_me on Wed, 07/28/2010 - 22:15.

pediatrician said: Robert Mendelsohn, How to Have a Healthy Child, In Spite of Your Doctor (Great book!)

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Australian media LOVES Hitler and Stalin-type tactics

Submitted by America Loves R... on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 21:15.

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Look at this ridiculous headline and story out of the Australian media attempting to chill free-speech and dissenting viewpoints:

Anti-vaccine meeting to go ahead

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/7586829/antiva...

July 14, 2010, 4:36 pm

A controversial anti-vaccination group will push ahead with its second public seminar in Perth warning against childhood vaccination, despite a damning finding by NSW health authorities that its information is biased.

Australian Vaccination Network founder Meryl Dorey said that like its first seminar last month, Tuesday night's event would be held at a 200-seat State Library auditorium.

The NSW Health Care Complaints Commission this week found the group had selectively quoted research out of context to argue against vaccination. The AVN has been given two weeks to put a statement on its website advising that it provides anti-vaccination information which should not be read as medical advice.

SINCE WHEN IS HAVING BIASED INFORMATION GROUNDS FOR CANCELING A MEETING !?!?!?!?

WHAT GROUP DOESN'T HAVE BIASED INFORMATION !?!?!?!

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bump

Submitted by legalizeliberty on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 15:17.

Thanks for posting.

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If this is correct, the real story

Submitted by pseudonym on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 15:08.

is about how an anti-vaccination group is going overboard. I think that if we want freedom we also have to respect people's private boundaries more than ever. It's not okay to intrude in a family's life and demand medical records. The AVN should know that.

pseudonym...I understand your point....BUT....

Submitted by America Loves R... on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 16:55.

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....that's only if you read and believe what the mainstream news article said.

Pseudonym, isn't it true that the government and the media are both financed in LARGE part by the pharmaceutical industry?

Would they perhaps lie, omit, distort, bully and in engage in many other dishonest and freedom-eating actions in order to protect the hand that feeds them?

Did you read AVN's blog to get the other side?

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I don't know how much of that blog you want me to read

Submitted by pseudonym on Mon, 07/26/2010 - 19:33.

But I didn't see any denial of this allegation, that they contacted the dead child's parents directly. And that, to me, is a breech of privacy and common decency.

You might remember that I am anti-vaccine. But on the issue of contacting parents and demanding medical records...I wouldn't want ANYONE doing that to me...not the government, not the anti-government, NOBODY.

Let's hear it from the SOURCE

Submitted by America Loves R... on Thu, 07/29/2010 - 12:53.

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Here's an excerpt from Meryl Dorey's AVN website:

AVN Response to Sydney Morning Herald Article – 27/7/10

http://avn.org.au/nocompulsoryvaccination/?p=729

I guess I should not be surprised when the media gets something wrong. It’s just that when they get SO MANY things wrong in one article, it’s difficult not to read that as anything but intentional bias and deliberate misstatements.

Below is a critique of the article that appeared in today’s Sydney Morning Herald, written by Kate Benson, entitled , Vaccine activists labelled a threat.

WHEN their four-week-old baby daughter Dana died from whooping cough Toni and David McCaffery sought love and healing to ease their grief.

Instead, they say they were subjected to a campaign of harassment and abuse at the hands of anti-vaccination campaigners, a group who were yesterday labelled a serious threat to the public’s health and safety.

In July 2009, the HCCC forwarded a complaint that had been made by Ken McLeod, one of the members of the hate group, Stop the AVN. We gave a full and complete response to this complaint in September, 2009. The McCaffery’s filed their own complaint against the AVN in December, 2009 and we were not informed of this until their names were added on to the original complaint in February, 2010.

Despite the fact that accusations like the ones above and below were made against both myself and the AVN by the McCaffery’s, the HCCC would not allow me to see these accusations. Instead, I was expected to respond to the complaint without having access to it. Anyone can see that this is a denial of the AVN’s and my right to natural justice.

As for this supposed campaign of harassment, neither I nor anyone else on our committee has ever contacted the McCaffery’s by any means whatsoever – emails, telephone, letter or in person. So this supposed harassment by AVN members is an unsubstantiated claim which, despite requesting further information from the HCCC on this issue, has never been verified by either the McCaffery’s or any other officials involved in this investitation.

I can easily say that Julia Gillard calls me up every Saturday night at 9 PM to have a yarn about the kids, but this would be a lie. Likewise, unless proof is provided by the McCaffery’s that I or any other AVN member has harassed them, this claim is simply untrue.

For instance, the McCaffery’s have regularly said that I have been found to have provided incorrect and misleading information to the ABC radio after an interview last year. They say this despite the fact that they KNOW that it was, in fact, the ABC presenter who was found to have given incorrect information and not me. Please read the following correspondence:

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Date: 5 February 2010 4:26:39 PM AEDT
To: “‘meryl@avn.org.au’”
Subject: RE: ABC Investigation of vaccination information

Dear Ms Dorey

I refer to your emails of 28 and 29 January to ABC presenter Katya Quigley. In line with ABC complaints procedures, your correspondence has been forwarded to Audience and Consumer Affairs.

As previously advised in a number of my emails to you, the findings of the Audience and Consumer Affairs review did not relate to your contribution to the program or to how the AVN presents statistics. Consistent with ABC complaints procedures, our review related to whether the statements about the statistics made by an ABC presenter complied with the ABC’s editorial standards for accuracy in factual content. Our finding was that the ABC presenter’s statement did not meet the standard, which requires that “Every reasonable effort must be made to ensure that factual content is accurate and in context”.

In addition, the Herald journalist’s use of the words “serious threat to the public’s health and safety” is something that was made up by the journalist. These words do not appear anywhere in the HCCC announcement and one has to wonder who is in fact running the Sydney Morning Herald when they can make such obviously slanderous comments without any proof or reason?

The Health Care Complaints Commission issued a public warning against the Australian Vaccination Network after it refused to display a disclaimer on its website to inform readers its information should not be taken as medical advice.

For many years, the AVN has had a disclaimer on its website. The HCCC was informed of this back in September 2009, yet like so much of the information provided to this organisation by the AVN, they either chose to ignore it or were incapable of understanding it.

Our disclaimer states that, “If medical advice is required the services of a competent professional should be sought.”

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But is it decent for the parents to be lied-to by the govt....

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....and also the constant HARASSMANT by the government?

No one seems to be complaining about that.

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indeed

Submitted by kevinz on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 15:16.

indeed.

Interesting that the pro vaccination groups are scurrying from

Submitted by blounttruth on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 14:41.

fear that they will not be able to prop up the pharma industry and may miss that expense paid trip to Tahiti for not selling their quota. Bottom line is this is a personal choice for individuals, not for medical theory, and all medicines is theory. Remember the use of leeches for all types of ailments? Remember electro shock for mental issues? Remember bleeding a patient when sick to heal them? In 20 years we will look back at many of the medical practices of today and think "how barbaric", but you know that someone somewhere is worried about big pharma and they are now pushing with this sob story about the baby's death. I am not sure how one person harassing a family is means to target an anti vaccine group, but when it comes to government or corporations (as if there was a difference) then nothing shocks me. So far as I am concerned I would tell the HCCC to go get bent.

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Its very unfortunate that

Submitted by audienceofone on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 12:34.

this is one of those things people dont want to deal with until they are directly affected. I took action with my son years ago and got alot of heat for it. Three months later, after I got his exemption, my 6 month old niece got 4 to 6 shots in one visit and is now totally brain dead.

I am guilty of it to tho. Until you are around a child this has happened to you have no idea how bad it is, especially when its your family. I have withdrawn from my family in a big way. Even tho I can prove what happened to her they dont want to hear it. Its like its just too much to handle on top of everything else. That does not make it right but Im just trying to make sense of it without going nuts.

But I do know this. If you have a child you better not let this happen to you. You will be sorry, and you will wish you had paid more attention to posts like this.

And now it seems like......

Submitted by America Loves R... on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 12:44.

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.......if we DO attempt to reach out to friends, family, or even strangers, the government will try to slap us with "harassment".

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yea thats the scary part

Submitted by audienceofone on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 12:59.

You have to see there is horrific agenda here. Why go after those who speak out against it? Why paint them as baby killers? (when they are doing all the damage) According to them, vaccinated kids have superpowers that rival a comic book character. Why are they so concerned with an unvaccinated child then?

Its a tough pill to swallow....

First they came for the anti-vaccinators.............

Submitted by America Loves R... on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:47.

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I can't believe no one out there is too concerned about this blatant trampling of free-thought and free-speech by a so-called "free" country - Australia.

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