Renaissance 2.0: An extraordinary enlightenment with Damon Vrabel
Submitted by GregMooreJr on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 02:16This video series has been referenced in another post but I thought it deserved it own post.
I have watched the entire series and I am blown away. Renaissance 2.0 pulls everything together to help one understand how and why we are in this global economic mess.
Below is a link to the video series Renaissance 2.0 with a brief description of each lesson.
http://www.csper.org/renaissance-20.html
Each lesson is 10 min. or less in length.
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You may be right, I haven't
You may be right, I haven't watched/listened to Zeitgeist in a while.
It is similar to Zeitgeist in that it has some good information, and then deteriorates into some vague touchy-feely "solution."
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
I'm glad someone else noticed that
He never once suggests taking the "owners" out of their position either.
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Yes. I'm not deferring to
Yes. I'm not deferring to any "authority," whether they genuinely have "good" intentions or not.
A centrally-determined currency without banks is what the elite want. They're more than halfway to getting it.
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
I think not only without banks, but without currency
They're far past halfway there.
There's too many ivy leaguers running around with the truth these days. They want this new system to feel like it came from the people having an "awakening". The worst part of all, to me at least, is that everyone is so hopelessly enslaved by our current system that everyone is big on ideas and short on time or money to pull it off. It won't be long until our families are saying "c'mon, just get the chip so we can all ____ together".
Will I be considered a bad parent for not allowing my daughter to get a chip?
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That's what lord Rothschild would attempt to do....
They can't have World Government of any form without the people's consent....so the solution is the devil's solution. Merely trick most of them into giving their consent.
103 comments and no "front page" status?
Mr. Nystrom, have you taken the course yet?
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half way through.... very enlightening!
Videos ~The Money Fix ( and more )
I watched all the lessons and interviews! Thanks! I also wanted to bring attention to a few videos/sites that I found from the OP link. I think these are great to educate /stimulate more conversations and ideas.
Video~The Money Fix
http://www.themoneyfix.org/content/video-money-fix
Metacurrency ( video )
http://www.metacurrency.org/
New Currency Frontiers ( discussion and a video at bottom of page)
http://newcurrencyfrontiers.com/
Complimentary Currencies ~Introduction Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvegNqKcQ-g&feature=related
Complimentary Currencies ~ Examples Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pH47531SbE&feature=related
I agree with some of the comments below! Instead of banging our individual and/or collective heads against 'the mad buggers wall'..or waiting for some 'mass moment of awakening' . to act.. let's each find ways around, over and under it to whatever degree we are able. ;-)
Local currencies, bartering, self-sufficiency!
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
I'm sort of confused on what to say
I saw this one and commented that I liked it, as did many others. I even got into a little tif about defending it against some of its potential underpinnings but overall I really loved it. Biggest reason is that it provided many answers to the why and how questions of our financial problems. That's sorely needed.
However, in some link on some page of some site that's somehow related, I found Chris Martenson's Crash Course for the first time. I then spent another day and a half digesting it. I'm equally enthused with it but for other reasons. I believe it addresses the urgency better and connects the dots better between how exponential growth in economics, energy and resources are all three adding to our crisis list on a feverish pace. Chris does a wonderful job of showing how we really only have this year or next before the shtf in a massive, self feeding way. I think this is an important point to get the sheeple off their lazy donkeys (insert replacement word there).
So I come back here and post what I thought was a new post (naively - sorry), and get informed that it's old and has been criticized. That criticism turns out to be a majority that don't believe in peak oil or it becoming a problem. I have to say I'm truly amazed at this attitude. I've participated in energy debates on dozens of sites for over a decade and have never seen a 'peak supporter' lose the argument to a 'peak denier'. Is it really that the people on this site blindly believe this or did it just not become a hot enough discussion to get to the details yet? Between peak oil, peak soil, peak water/coal/uranium and NG, we have so many reasons to turn up the heat on fixing our political clusterpuck, like yesterday! How better to get people motivated?
Your not alone, my husband
believes in peak oil as well. I am not sure myself but if we plan for the worst, I figure we would have prepared for any eventuality.
Ideally, it would be wonderful to bring the rest of the population up on what is happening and suggestions on how to unwind the web the global cabal has entrapped the world's population. This I see as our last chance to turn things around.
I believe the population would do the right thing if given the truth but the population has been lied to and manipulated at every turn, this is so tragic. What a different world we could be living in if things had been done honestly and respectfully.
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Being Neither Here, Nor There ...
... we search for solutions outside ourselves. In community we feel less alienated, and that's good; but community is only within reach on a human scale.
We are frustrated when we try to control that which is not within our reach;... and, ultimately, the only thing we should aspire to, and, CAN control, is ourselves.
You, alone, should look Here for the solutions:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/140338#comment-1494979
"Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people . . . . This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution."
-- John Adams, 1818
Thank you, Quiltingsando
I think you hit the nail on the head there. I agree it's coming down to our last chance to turn things around. I just don't know how to impress that any clearer or more impending on people. I started by arguing with the energy experts for a few years. Then I realized their's was a financial problem which was essentially a political one and you know where that led me.
Basically, I think we have less than 5 years left of cheap energy of any kind. My day job is in campus utilities and I can tell you that when oil prices climbed, it took HOURS to switch to natural gas and we haven't been back. What makes people think that any shortage of one fuel won't immediately affect all the others? We have lots of crossover capacity and the dollar is definitely king there.
I see a coal train headed East about every 15-20 minutes every day. They average 125 cars each. At 80 tons/car for 1900 miles one way, that equates to a million miles traveled in a normal car for each train. This is just to carry one fuel to its users. I've read reports that suggest that the military is the largest oil user by nearly double. From conversations with various people over the years, I can infer that these two 'needs' account for over half of our energy needs. This means that a production cut in oil would be passed to the public as twice as large as it actually is.
Given the '04 food crisis causing many country exports to be shut down (national hoarding), this would leave us with zero imports and take our supply from 21 MBD to the 5 MBD (and dropping) rather fast. Considering the previous paragraph, we'd be in deep you know what.
Unfortunately, this exact scenario exists for coal, uranium, natural gas, water, soil, copper, lithium, silver and many other environmental finite resources. The problem is that CEOs can only see one quarter out and will keep that pedal floored even as we've passed the cliff. Unfortunately, all the solutions to these problems are local and don't make those CEOs any money.
Connect Yourself To The Solution ...
... and the dots begin to do more than just connect.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/139402
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself."
--- Leo Tolstoy
Sorry to be difficult,
but which of the 2-3 points I could take away from that do you mean?
I've educated myself, come to my own conclusions, prepared myself as much as I can right now, solved as many problems as I can contribute solutions to and now I'm up against a brick wall because those driving the bus are still not watching the road.
You're Not BEING Difficult, And You're Not Simple,...
... thankfully. ;-)
You are on your way, and are not yet pinned against any wall...
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/137536
Step Out ...
... one step at a time ...
... one foot in front of the other ...
... out of the box.
Don't march ...
Walk,
Don't run.
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'It's all so vague', you say ...
'well' ..., says I, 'that's in the eye of the beholder...'
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/95517
... so don't be-holden ... back...
'Look', you say ... 'yes', I say, 'that kind of behold'ng too' ...
'I need a QUICK ! answer', you breathlessly insist;
'That's exactly what I've endeavored to give you', I respond without answering.
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Well, quickening aside, where do we( 'YOU not WE ... don't use THAT word', I admonish) go from Here? That's YOUR question. You don't want some essay in nonsense -- 'TRUE ... FALSE ... OUI or NO ', you demand. 'O K , if you put it like that ... I'll tell you -- in my opinion, you are half right', I shrug.
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I'm giving you only a few more clues ... not to be difficult. Ultimately, you will figure out The Answer, because only You can.
Hint: There is no one answer that fits all. Don't let anyone answer for you ... (... it's like a poem ... its like school ... yeah, that's it ... you need to learn ... that's what its about ... to skip the lesson would invalidate the process in which you are enrolled and cheat YOU out of the benefits you will need to suceed). Sorry if this sounds a bit like a commencement address, but that's the occasion. You are ready for post-graduate work. Maybe. Forget where you've been on the curve; this course is a clinical program, not a lecture hall. It's hands on ... Yours. I can't make it more simple without making it ... well ..., Simple.
Let me ask you a personal question ( don't worry, I'll keep it a rhetorical cliche ... you take it from there.). --- So you're just a passenger in your own metaphor, and you know where it's heading and who's driving ... Where did you think you were going to end up? It's like you are in a game of baseball -- Do you think you can steal second base, with your foot still on 1st? At least in my pedestrian metaphor, you have your own two feet under you.
We all whine that things shouldn't be this way , and they shouldn't ... but they are. If you knew they were always going to be this way, and you saw who was driving the bus, and where it was heading, wouldn't you get off.... So get off ! .... 'Oh, but what about the others ...' Well, you are in the back of the bus, all you can do is tip them off on your way out the rear door. ( Imagine its an Airbus -- there's a reason you are warned about the effects of changes in cabin pressure and advised to affix the mask on you before rendering aid to others. That analogy does illustrate to whom you have the primary duty. ... Attend to it.)
... As for the parachute ... NOW, you think of it.
Better get your own two feet under you, sooner than later.
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... So get off the bus.
On 'The Bus' ...
... YOU Ain't Movin'.
I would like to share this poem about Rosa Parks called 'I Aint Moving'. It was written by Fianah, Grade 7, Peshine Ave. University Prep Junior High School, Newark, New Jersey, USA. I saw it posted on The BRAD BLOG on the occasion of the passing of the civil rights icon in 2005, at the age of 92.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1948
I Ain't Movin'
Get on the bus. No smile, just a frown;
I'm tired, I'm hot. And I can't sit down.
Well, I guess I could sit down if I wanted to sit in the back--
Plenty of seats in the front, now I don't understand that!
I paid my fare, full fair in fact. But I can't sit in the front. Only the back."
Rome wasn't built in a day," my momma once said.
"You must follow your heart, and fight with your head."
We're in a battle that we will continue to lose
unless someone stands up, or someone don't move.
Well, it's another day and here comes the bus; I've made up my mind,
I'm gonna do this for us! I get on the bus and go straight for the seat,
sit down; dress spread out real neat look around, ALL EYES ON ME!
"Get up gal!" I heard the white man yell.
I wanted to tell him to go straight to hell, but instead I said (with
my voice real soothing "No sir, I'm tired, and I ain't moving." Well,
I didn't move, I kid you not, and the
more I sat the madder he got. I still didn't move and the yelling
didn't stop. And when I did move, I had help from the cops.
Yeah, they took me to jail but that was just fine.
I had used my head and followed my mind.
Well, 45 years later it's a brand new day; you can sit
in the front seat every day. Listen to me children, listen to me well,
to the words I say, not just the story I tell: believe in yourself and to your
beliefs be true. Don't let nobody walk over you.
Some battles are winning ones, while others may be losing, but stand
your ground,
keep your faith and tell them YOU AIN'T MOVING.
SEE:
http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/index.php/encyclopedia/encyclo...
"Usually, if I have to face something, I do so no matter what the consequences might be. I never had any desire to give up. I did not feel that giving up would be a way to become a free person. That's the way I still feel. By standing up to something we still don't always affect change right away. Even when we are brave and have courage, change still doesn't come about for a long time."
--- Rosa Parks
Bump in hopes
others will view this wonderful well done series. This is a must see series.
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Time to declare
The peoples war on the Fed.
"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain
On Course ...
Speaking for myself: I r'Evolve to do my best each day to unwind negative spin that I see serves Their centripetal vortex of concentrated power.
Thank you to those who have noticed my effusing enthusiam for this Renaissance 2.0 course. Around two months ago, a brief interview of Vrabel by Max Keiser caught my attention.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/134501#comment-1436651
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/136083#comment-1455511
I tried to learn more of his thinking on these topics because I was struck by how consonant they seemed to my own conclusions. When I became aware of the elaboration in this video seminar series, my jaw dropped. A few of you have been complimentary of my efforts to get some of these points across ... and I do thank you for your encouragment -- but I'll tell you ... I couldn't have summed up my own thoughts on the subject of how we got here and where we need to go, as coherently as Vrabel's concise Renaissance 2.0 course does. Certainly, he is a clear thinker and an adept teacher. I don't recall any surprises, but more discussion, amplifying these concepts is exactly the process in which we each ( and together) need to be engaged. I ( and I imagine, Vrabel) intend to learn things as the dialogue and exchanges proliferate under this human to human clambake of colloquium he calls a Counsil of Spiritual Psychological Economic Renewal.
It is amazing to me the rate at which this new paradigm of thinking is catching on in revolutionary circles of the left and the right. Vrabel's well timed course serendipidiously provides more rudder to our small crafts in the on rush towards a turbulent confluence of events through which we will need to maneuver on our way to still waters downstream of Their damnable new order, just like the old order ( only more consolidated).
Oh ... we will still be knocked around by countervailing currents and breezes which always threaten to push us off course swirling us into prepared locks and channels. As we keep our respective heads clear, we can see the mire which would swamp us into the service of a centralizing monolith of empire.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/139786#comment-1491447
Let us leave to simple thinking bottom dwellers ( and their supervisors, brought in from time to time ) to put fresh spin on the convoluting forces behind Their divide and conquer vortex. Special thanks to MikeLawson for coming 'round to up close scrutiny of Vrabel's worthy effort. Mike, your pause over the inclusion of nation state sovereign currency as part of the mix of centrifugal forces which could help counter the concentration of imperial control in the hands of global monetarists should only be viewed as Ron Paul might view such compromises -- a good start toward full asset based competing currencies on a human scale. But such questions as this, which you raise, need to be discussed.
Like it or not, Mike,you are part of the council as you share your usually valuable insight into how to unwind from the matrix of new order web designers. Keep your considered and measured words of caution flowing.( Remind me to initiate you into the secret handshake at the next ceremony in Sherwood Grove). ;-)
I just watched it for the second time
I just don't understand any of the negative comments interspersed here. The guy is fantastic. His message and analysis is equally powerful to anything that Wikileaks can come up with. He has truly pulled the curtain back. This needs to get viral somehow. Front page here at least, please.
Yes, The Matrix
is also worth watching.
Bumping in hopes that Michael
will see this and put it on front page. How can we promote this series and his site. Please, take the time to view this very important series.
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I've asked that very question repeatedly but
received no response. I think we should organize some sort of Digg-bomb. I assume that by now it's on Digg so if we coordinate a bunch of digs, we can push it to popular status. That's the one place I know of that we can forcibly push it out to a really large group of people and it has the added benefit of drawing lots of discussion on it as well. Then there's Reddit and the rest, right?
My other question is whether to promote this one or the Crash Course by Chris Martenson more. I think they both have their pros but don't we need to impress upon people the urgency of how so many problems are upon us and all coming to a head at the same time?
Other comments like Mike's, say that Damon's (and I'd add in Chris's) don't have a truly encompassing solution. I would submit a book I wrote for that and ask for help from the group to get it released. It's called Utopia Unplugged and it's nothing but actual solutions and how much better our lives would be with very little action from each person.
Ok, I take back my previous comments
I still don't like his solution but what a fantastic presentation.
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What do you see wrong with the proposed solution?
I see removing ourselves from corporate control to be of vital importance, and the elimination of fractional bank/debt money to be the #1 issue at a higher level.
"Be the change you want to see." That is our only way out from the shackles.
That's a serious question, I am curious. Btw, teh only thing I saw wrong with the simplistic P < P + I is that it should read P < (P * RF) + I ...
But he didn't fall into the trap of fully demonizing interest. He made it clear that interest is slavery, which it is. But the fact is, interest alone isn't the problem causing the massive growth. It's the reserve multiplier more than anything else.
The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PoL.English.The.Philo...
I don't think the government is capable of printing money
I think there's just as much room for corruption and largess as there is with the current system. I personally think competing currencies with no government meddling is the way to go.
And I don't like the "council" idea.
Other than that it was an excellent presentation. It is funny to see some of those who commented here about how great it was are still commenting on every national politics thread and creaming their jeans when a tv man says nice things. I guess they're waiting on everybody to stop first.
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I didn't see that he specifically advocated...
Government money. He said that was as an option, but talked about asset based money, and wasn't specific about what kind of backing it should have.
You are right, government printed money can be manipulated, but so can gold, and apparently even silver. However, we do have some kind of control over the government printing money, and it is obvious who is to blame for the inflation when it occurs.
Right now, with the separation of government and the Fed, it becomes impossible for us to control and blame gets hidden. Either way, I see that as a valid critique, but I didn't see that what he advocated was necessarily 100% fiat without backing.
And you're right about your last statement. Getting people to see the need for the change, and them acting on it, are two different things...
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http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PoL.English.The.Philo...
In the last lesson he discusses it
One thing I have learned is that nobody really knows what's getting ready to happen or a good way to stop/fix it. I have seen quite a few wonderful presentations about how we got here, where it's probably headed and what to do about it. I have to say, the what to do part never seems to get there. The Mney Fix people actually identify what I think is the only real solution, but then they advocate for a top-down centrally adminstired servitude system. I think the solution is stop trying to find solutions and trade--without frns or bank loans.
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Yes, the LAST thing we need is a centralized monetary system.
There simply needs to be a return to a decentralized, non-fractional reserve banking system, a fluid currency (which, after all, is simply a medium of exchange) run on market principles and, of course, an end to the income tax. Oh, and did I mention, a return to the Constitution?
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
Careful on that...
An end to central banking isn't an end to our problems. You would just get state banks all behaving like the Fed does today. Their power to commit fraud through fractional reserves is what causes the problem.
Prior to the Fed, the individual banks would behave exactly as the Fed does, and occasionally one would over extend and cause a bank run. But a bank run can only happen with fractional reserves.
Just because centralized banking is our enemy doesn't mean it is the only thing that must be corrected. In fact, centralized banking would effectively have nothing to do without fractional reserves...
We really need to focus on the main problem. The Fed tweaked some digits with interest rates... But the individual banks themselves are the ones who actually inflate and produce money from nothing and they will do so, with or WITHOUT the Fed controlling them.
The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PoL.English.The.Philo...