Is Silver really a "great" investment?

but it real money. ??

Reposting here again...so you don't think I'm not adhering to your queries...

People who use language like "F.U." are not people I care to have a conversation with. I've treated you like a human being and I disagree with your treatment of me as such by utilizing this type of tactic. Since I do have free will, this will be my last post to you. Naturally you will view this as me being a coward and accuse me of such nonsense.

I never said that inflation or hyperinflation will not happen. Read my reply to the inflation.us post again. http://dailypaul.com/node/139904#comment-1495859 I said that the folks at inflation.us "are wrong in their timing." So is Peter Schiff and Gary North in my opinion. This doesn't mean that I don't think inflation or hyperinflation will occur. Far from it (I think this is where you are confused, meaning we agree on it occurring, but you aren't clear on "when" it will occur. Well, neither are Schiff or North, so you're in good company).

The irony of your tactics in discussing things with me is you expect me to challenge Republicae to a debate and thus have me take the time to research all that Republicae has written to understand his point of view, and you expect Republicae to study all that I have written to understand my point of view, and you won't do any research yourself? And you haven't even read anything I have given you to read since the beginning of this conversation and asked me specific questions about what I have written you disagree with or don't understand?

And then you call me a "coward" and a "punk, bitch" by saying I won't debate him as if calling me that would leave me no other choice but to do so.

I asked if you knew anything about deflationary credit contraction in my last post and said if you didn't know anything about it, I would explain it to you. And you sit and call me names and attempt to challenge my intellect. People who use this type of tactic can't do their own thinking.

I challenge anyone to anything anytime, but will not tolerate those with high school debating skills that continually use the tactic of belittling the other side.

It is the truth I seek. Enlightenment. It's not about winning a debate. Gary North and Mish Shedlock have battled it out on this issue, over and over. They never said "F.U." to each other. Only time will tell who is right. One can't "prove" something that hasn't happened.

All they can do is suggest what course of action will occur and why. Keynesian have their view and Austrians have theirs. Among the Austrians, they too disagree.

I gave you the answer twice now. I gave you url's to seek the truth. You never replied to my posts on DP "as a favor to you" (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/139904#comment-1495789) on Japanese deflation and the similarities to the U.S.

So I'll explain things to you better since my past words have been unsatisfactory for you. But again, this is the last post and conversation I'll have with you (you can reply with more of the same tactics, I don't care).

I believe we are in a deflationary credit contraction that will dwarf the monetary stimulus as I mentioned already to you on July 17th here: http://dailypaul.com/node/139904#comment-1494159

But since that answer isn't good enough for you as I believe you don't understand what deflationary credit contraction is....

What happened to the trillions of stimulus we've had with the Obama administration and the various bailouts and spending programs that congress has passed? Have they shown any inflation in the numbers? No.

They have been eaten up by all of the credit that was generated in the inflationary expansion years...to the tune of trillions of dollars. People and businesses are paying down debt and defaults are increasing.

Falling prices are the result of deflation. Thus prices falling are a sign deflation is already here (except in government backed programs like with College tuition, medical care, etc). It's the same thing that occurred in the 1929-1933 era which saw durable good fall 60% in price and consumer goods less than that (people still need to eat and take care of the basics so consumer goods weren't hit as hard as durable goods).

Are prices falling today?

I challenged the inflation.us data here on Daily Paul back on June 22nd where I showed prices falling everywhere. No one replied.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/132548#comment-1476049

Back then, consumer prices had dipped for 2 straight months. Now they have dipped for a 3rd straight month. Real estate is still declining and everything else I mentioned in that post.

The Japanese example shows a country can have government gone wild spending for an extended period of time. Their Debt to GDP ratios are at 227%, highest in the world...and yet they still have deflation and a Yen that has strengthened. The Nikkei has fallen 75% and the Dow only 40%. Land prices in Japan fell 66% and are at a 36 year low. Commercial property in the U.S. has fallen only 40% and of course home prices are declining at an even more rapid rate.

The U.S. is sitting at a Debt to GDP ratio of almost 60% at the end of 2009 and with the increase of spending this year, it is around 80% on its way to 100% I'm sure quickly. The monetary stimulus isn't working. But we have another 100% plus of stimulating to go to reach Japanese levels.

I covered all this in my blogtalkradio interview that I posted and you won't listen to.

Yes, the government will continue to inflate. But the deflationary credit contraction will still dwarf it as it has been.

This is the title of the 4th chapter of my book (which you said no one at DP would buy) that I referenced: Chapter 4 Credit Expansion-->Inflation-->Bubble Bursts-->
Recession-->Government Intervention-->Unemployment-->
Credit Contraction and Deflation-->Banking Crisis-->
Hyperinflation-->Depression. I have 100 footnotes for that chapter that explains in detail what is occurring.

I'll continue to write articles stating the case on my blog and I'll continue to challenge CFP's, CFA's, Harvard Professor's, Dave Ramsey, Forbes, Money Magazine and anyone else who write negative articles on gold as I have been doing for over 2 years.

I wish you luck in your quest for truth. One can lead a horse to water, but they don't have to take the deflationary drink. You can have your inflationary cake and eat it too. Eventually you and the inflationists will be right.

Since you did ask for references, start with these;

Money Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles by Jesús Heurta de Soto

Deflation and Liberty by Jörg Guido Hülsmann

America's Great Depression (for the 1929-1933 comparison) by Murray Rothbard

Then you can read Steve Keen's blog; http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/

Mish Shedlock's blog: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/

George Reisman's blog: http://georgereismansblog.blogspot.com/

FOFOA's blog: http://fofoa.blogspot.com/

and Ron Hera's articles: http://www.heraresearch.com/

Or you can spend less than $20 and read my book which puts all of their words together for folks. But you have something against me telling people I've written a book and you think people here won't buy it as you previously stated.

Maybe I should go down and volunteer and forget about making an income. You think I gave up my 20 year career as a financial advisor and all the income I could have made so I can sell a few books?

My site has no advertisers on it and what I do to promote my work should be judged on what I give in the way of articles on a continual basis on both my blogs.

I called the gold in Euro trade before Gartman did and took it off the table with a 30% profit when the Euro hit 1.25. People pay $5,000 a year for his advice and he admits he's wrong 80% of the time. I'm currently recommending the buy gold in Yen trade. I try and give people the info for them to make good decisions. But I only sell gold and silver bullion and I do it at the lowest prices, but with a $20,000 minimum investment.

There...I've plugged my book and my gold and bullion sales company. Maybe I should be kicked off of DP for doing so (based on your point of view).

I don't care. If people don't look at me as trying to help, as I have painstakingly done with you, tolerating your "F.U." attitude, then perhaps my time is better spent elsewhere.

My book has a hidden message in it and I have a plan to get that message out to the masses by going after Glenn Beck and Anthony Weiner. And if they don't address what I have written it, I can guarantee the city of LA attorney will. But it's about the message of Ron Paul that is embedded in the book. The first post I ever wrote in the beginning of 2008 was about Ron Paul's message on my Fed Up! blog. I care not what people think of me. It's the message that matters. Time will dictate whether my words were relevant.

or even ever, mention u.s.s liberty,king david hotel,lavon affair,israel,rothschild,zionists and of course the granddaddy of them all the MOSSAD 9/11 false flag attack on the good people of these united states of america

Collapse of what? Money? They'll just usher in a new currency. That's what the plan has been all along. Call it the "UniBuck", the "iDollar", the "AmerO"! They'll have more fun with us little guys by coming up with some kooky name.....kind of like they're laughing their asses off by "having us" elect a muslim named Barak Hussein Obama while we're in 2 wars trying to naim Osama bin Lauden. Who'd a thunk it? We're a dooped Nation, and I don't see much changing. They've got the laws, the money, the guns. All that adds up to is - Control. It's like George Carlin said,"It's one big club, and me and you ain't in it!"

I believe as an investment silver is not a wise choice. Since it does not produce or reproduce. In order for silver to produce value it needs to be used as money, trading as a competing currency it pushes FRNs out of the market reducing the value of fiat currencies.
Spend silver in the market, never trade it for FRNs, trade it for goods and services. In this way it creates value. To save it is no better than leaving it in the ground.
grant

Ted Butler: Now it's when, not if, for metals position limits
http://news.silverseek.com/SilverSeek/1279732290.php

"the centerpiece of Commissioner Chilton’s statement affirms that the new law mandates that the CFTC establish position limits in order to prevent market concentration. Position limits in silver to break the stranglehold of concentration on the short side of COMEX silver has been my mission for 25 years. Chilton confirms that will be the law. Please watch the video and then decide if my take is correct."
http://www.cftc.gov/files/oirm/video/cftc_023455.wmv

bullion than gold. this is because most of the silver that has been mined has been used in industry and is now scattered in landfills.from my research i have learned that there is about 6 billion oz of gold bullion or 1 oz for every human alive. but because of the majority of silver being used and eventually tossed out there is only 1 billion oz of silver bullion. so silver bullion is 8 times more scarce than gold and has hundreds more uses.

not bumping on purpose. Sorry.

and kills the buying power of your profits. If folks hope to make a bunch of FRNs on the collapse of FRNs they are gaining nothing.
If you know others who might like silver, its good to trade with.