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Dollar Collapse Preparation Thread: My Low-Budget Steps + What Steps You Have Taken To Prepare?!

After following the words of Dr. Paul, Peter Schiff, Marc Faber and Jim Rodgers for a few years now, I feel that I am pretty much 100% jaded towards the near-term and medium term outlook for the United States.

I full-heartedly believe that there is going to be some sort major failure of a financial insitution, U.S. state or sovereign that will cause U.S. Treasury Bill and Bond holders to liquidate their U.S. dollar denominated assets and subsequently create a hyperinflationairy environment in the United States. Living in a hyperinflationairy environment is extremely dangerous and can include a laundry list of unthinkable dangers such as: 1) Gangs of Roaming Looters or Marauders 2) Police/Government Confiscation or Personal Removal 3) Sky-Rocketing Food and Water Prices, Shortages 4) Civil Unrest 5) Foreign Powers Sending Troops Over to Collect on Their Debt, and so many more I can't think of and won't know of until it happens to me. It is because of all of thse reason and more that I have begun to prepare myself and family for the worst.

My story is nothing special but I hope it can give someone some help in preparing themselves. I am a 22 year old Finance/Economics Major at Florida State University who works at a grocery store as a bagboy so it should be obvious that my budget is not exactly huge. I come from a somewhat well-to-do family that completely rode the decades of continuously falling interest rates to wealth and prosperity and is now suffering the needed correction for their recklessness. I have begun to turn their minds to the truth but they still cannot see the cliff in front of them (55 years of unwavering faith in Uncle Sam will do that to you). They help with some of the monetary cost of preparing.

SO FAR, I have amassed a good amount of tools, supplies and information that can and will give me the edge against others when the fated day arrives. This is a short laundry list of things I have done and plan to do in the near future. If I have forgotten anything important PLEASE DO NOT hesitate to tell me. Keep in mind I belong to a family of four adults and possibly more if times get super hard. I have no brothers and my dad is old and out of shape so the responsibiliy will be soley on me. Also remember I bought extra supplies for bardering purposes.

- Bought $250-$300 in a very wide variety of canned foods which totals up to around 400+ cans of food with expiration dates around late 2013
- Filled up two 12 gallon emergency water jugs with clean water
- These are stored in inconspicuous blue rubbermaid containers at my parents house back in Jacksonville while I keep about 50 cans of food

- Purchased one 9mm handgun and holster (Glock 26), For personal defense outside the home
*I have around 250 9mm rounds (.5 Hollowpoints, .5 FMJ)
- Purchased one 20 gauge shotgun, For personal defense inside the home and bigger game hunting
*I have around 150 shells, a mix of birdshot, target loads and slugs
- Purchased one SuperMark small game pellet gun. For small game hunting such as birds, rabbits and racoons.
*I have two 6000 lead pellet containers
- Purchased one Romanian AK-47 w/Bayonet. For personal defense outside the home
*No ammuntion yet
- Purchased Level IIIa Body Armor (40 S&W and down resistance)

- I was able to convince my parents to invest in gold- In my apartment in Tallahassee, I have around $200 cash along with around $100 in silver coins

- My parents were the poster children for the housing crisis. They built our current house in Jacksonville for the super inflated price of $700,000 back in 2005 and are now completely underwater. Back in January of this year, I convinced them to put their house up on the market while there still is a housing market. They have gotten few offers and are currently negotiating some counteroffers to the few offers we did get. I am currently trying to get them to walk away from this financial hellhole and give it back to the bank the peddled it to us. I have also got them to embrace the idea of self-sustainability and growing our own foods. They are currently looking at rural houses deeper in the Florida countryside.
- I graduate in December and will be returning back to Jacksonville to hopefully a job a the Deutsche Bank investment firm. I expect the housing market to be in even bigger shambles at that point and plan to buy a small and affordable country house to live in AT A FIXED RATE. With this fixed rate being completely eaten away by inflation, it will be quite a steal.

- 5 bottles of MultiVitamens (500 capsules per bottle)
- 2 First Aid Kits (gause, bandages, etc...)
- 4 Bottles of Medicinal Alcohol
- 10+ bottles of Nyquil/DayQuil/Pepto Bismal/Milanta
- 2 Bottles of Menstral Medicine
- 1 Bottle of Aloe
- 10 toobrushes
- 10 bottles of toothpaste
- 9 bottes of Asprin/Ibuprofen (200 capsules per bottle)

6) MISCELLANEOUS SURVIVAL TOOLS AND BARDER MATERIAL (also stored in Rubbermaid containers at home)
- 5 bottles of preservable wine (white and red)
- 3 Bottles of scotch (Johnny Walker, $25 per bottle)
- 4 Cartons of Cigarettes (2 Newport Menthol, 2 Marlboro)
- 500 batteries (AA,AAA,B,C,DD, 12v, 9v)
- 4 flashlights
- 10 containers of spice mixers ($5 containers of a variety of spices, great trading instruments)
- 100 Nails
- 1 hammer, 1 screwdriver and 2 one gallon gas cans. (This is for extraction of gas from another car's gas tank in times of crisis. Lay under the car and hammer a small hole in the gas tank of a car with the screwdriver and once the gas is flowing from under the car, collect it with the gas cans and your on your way, no siphoning required)
- 1 MapQuest directions home (Tallahassee to Jacksonville) use only back roads and that don't involve major highways
- 1 2000 page book of survival skills and tips called "When Technology Fails" by Matthew Stein. Covers everything from skinning an animal to growing your own crops.
- 2 Gas powered Lanterns
- 1 High Quality Flintstone (The kind used by Man Vs. Wild and SurvivorMan. Good for 10000 lights or 7000 fires.)
- 2 Large Cans of Lubricant/Gun Cleaner
- 30+ BIC liters
- 1 small-ish Axe
- 1 Fire Extinguisher
- 10 packs of seeds (refrigerated, corn, tomato, cucmber)

-My Personal Defense Suit (Mainly for Intimidation):
-- 1 Romanian AK-47 (BOUGHT)
-- 1 Level IIIa Body Armor (BOUGHT)
--- 4 gas masks (One for each family member, For tear gas or biological warfare)
--- 1 Kevlar Riot Helmet (For head protection and identity consealment)(BOUGHT)
--- 1 set of Riot Gear
--- 500 7.62mm x 39mm Rounds (Ak-47 rounds)(BOUGHT)
----300+ more cans of food
---- 1 Police Scanner
---- 1 Battery Powered AM/FM Radio
---- 2 Packs of Antibiotics (1 Ingestable, 1 Injectable)(BOUGHT)
---- 20+ syringes
---- 1 set of Gardening tools (Shovel, trowel, fertilizer, Farmers almanac, etc...)
---- 2 Ounces of Pot (For personal consumption, Everybody has their vice, pot is mine)
---- 8 sets of thermal underwear (4 mens, 4 womens)(BOUGHT)

Thats about all I can remember/find at this point. This list has cost me a lot of hard earned money and time but I do believe it is a good head start towards preparing my family and me for the treacherous future that lies ahead.

I was wondering if anyone else was starting to prepare or if I am just crazy. I also wanna know if I forgot anything so feel free to lemme know what I missed.

By the way things are looking so far in Washingtion, I hope what I wrote gives you a good idea of how much preparation there really is left for us to do.

UPDATE 10/3/10

So I have skrimpted and saved these past couple of months and I have managed to accumulate some more nessecities for our, now obvious, impending dollar crash.

New Additions:
- 2 Story House for Parents in Jacksonville:(60% Surrounded by forest: Quiet white neighborhood 20-25 miles away from downtown Jacksonville, Fl: 360 degree security lights: 4 Windows on the second floor facing in every direction )(perfectly defensible))
- 300 Rounds of 7.62mm x 39mm for the AK47
- 1 Israel Gas Mask with 1 refill canister
- 10 weeks worth of Blood Pressure Medicine (that will be worth way WAY more than gold when everything collapses - "You want a once of gold, or do you want your father to live?"
- 2 types of Two Week Regimens of Super Strong AntiBiotics (Cipro, Bactrim) These will be essential for the sick and dying: A.K.A. Profit city
- 2 Large bottles of 30 strength Colloidal Silver for minor bacterial infections and overall health
- 4 Full pairs of Long Johns thermal underwear, one for each family member

I still need:
- Tons and tons of paper plates, bowls, and utinsels.(BOUGHT)
- Kevlar Ski Mask (Intimidation purposes and they look cool)
- Military Kevlar Helmet
- Multiple Water Filters
- Solar Power Generator
- More Canned Food
- Everything mentioned in the first post that I didn't have

UPDATE 10/11

Just won two more important items off ebay:
-SMITH AND WESSON Riot Helmet with Visor ($15)

NEXT MONTH: I plan on purchasing one or two more filters for the mask and either a Berkey or Katadyn water filter. I have a stagnant creek behind my house that is a perfect source of water as long as it is filtered.

I also need to purchase a ton of paper plates/bowls and utensils.

UPDATE 10/15

- Katadyn Vairo Water Filter Dual Technology Microfilter
- 200 Paper Plates
- 200 Paper Bowls
- 150 Plastic Utensils

- Decoy Safe
- 3 Gas Masks
- 4 Gas mask canister refills
- 2 Replacement water filters
- Solar Cooker
- 1000+ 20 gauge Shotgun Shells/9mm rounds/7.62x39mm Shells
- 7 Window Bar Sets
- 2 Security Doors (Bullet/Smash proof, Front and back door)

I purchased a Katadyn Vairo Water Filter Dual Technology Microfilter off of Ebay. It is good for up to 500 gallons of pure water before it needs filter replacement. I plan to have atleast two replacement filters, giving me a total of 1500 gallons of fresh water before I need to find a new way to get water.

I also picked up some paper plates and utensils. When the water is off, those ceramic plates and bowls will be getting pretty grimey after a while.

Overall this is going to be an expensive quest, but I can assure you it will be even more expensive in the near future.

Anybody got any more suggestions? Lets keep this thread going.

UPDATE: 3/23/11

So I have made a decent amount of progress since I last updated.

- 15 Sets of Plastic Silverware and Paper Plates (100 per set)
- Small Decoy safe is poorly hidden and that will keep only 10% of my familys gold/silver/cash holdings
- Another $2000 in silver (27 an oz) and $1000 in gold (1350 an oz)
- A siphon for extracting gas from abandon or unprotected cars
- Ski masks-1 Green, 1 black
- Katadyn Combi Waterfilter (Good for 15,000 gallons of water)
- Full Camoflage outfit (hat, jacket, shirt, pants boots)
- Additions: 200 rounds of 20 gauge bird shot, 50 Rrounds of 12 gauge slugs, 600 rounds of 7.62x39mm, 200 rounds of .38, 50 rounds of 30-06, 50 rounds of 380, 100 rounds of 9mm FMJ
- A CB radio
- 60 Rolls of Toilet Paper (15 for each family member)

- Potassium Iodine tablets
- Working on getting a new rural house for about 100k.
- Portable toilet/shower
- More TP
- Feminine Products (Gross)

Feel welcome to post your suggestions or your preparations.

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How dare you drink a controlled substance without permit.

For this, you will have your possesions and land confiscated. You will have no place to work, because you are guilty of a felony.
How dare you think for yourself and question authority.

Expect a visit from DHS, IRS, FBI, FDA, and over 100 armed military visiting you. Don't talk back. You are less than human.
I can't believe you actually drank water without kool aid. It's a felony.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

Thanks for the notice. I'll have homemade cookies ready.

I hope some friendly, earnest folks are in the bunch. Or do they come by the gaggle, like lawyers?

Mark Twain -
- "Water, taken in moderation, cannot hurt anybody."

Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger, chapter 10 (1916)
- "[Humanity] has unquestionably one really effective weapon. Laughter.

Power, money, persuasion, supplication, persecution? These can lift at a colossal humbug? Push it a little? Weaken it a little, century by century; but only laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand."

Thanks again,

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

"We are the inheritors of the American Enlightenment,

which tells us that Individual Liberty always trumps collectivism in all forms."

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

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The repaying of our national debt won't come in the form of monthly payments.

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Thanks for the link; only two customer

reviews, but each gave it 5 stars. I'd like to know more.

Each month

buy a dozen mason jars, whatever size, and fill half with different varieties of rice and the other half with a different variety of beans. In no time you'll have a pantry that will feed you for quite some time. Part Cowboy, part Cajun: Long live Red Beans and Rice!Plus, they actually look cool in a storage bin.
My neighborhood is full of deer, so plenty of meat, much better than the stockyard processed Monsanto fed heards. One a month, is all you need. And yes, water.....berkey filter. Power? Who really needs it. It wasn't too long no one had electricity.....gee, I wonder how they all made it? Before America was industrialized (go to the factory and get a payroll job so the IRS can access your paycheck)it was a common lifestyle just to work your land and feed and cloth your people. Nothing more, nothing less. We've greatly overcomplicated things.

alan laney

Beans and rice versus raw food . . . raw more expensive.

The main difference that makes a raw food diet more expensive is calorie density. Fruits and vegetables are extremely nutritious, but have a low caloric density. That means that to get a certain number of calories you might need in a day, you need to eat more volume.

"Each pound of cooked rice will give you about 590 calories, so your big bag of rice for $18 will be enough for 59,000 calories, or enough for 29 and half days. So for less than $20, you can eat for an entire month."

Now even if you got cheap bananas at 66 cents a pound, your daily cost for 2000 calories would still be $6.43 a day. That’s just under $200 a month.

That’s certainly not as cheap as the $30 a month it would cost you to live on rice and beans, but it’s not bad either.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

You're talking price on a dollar collapse thread?

How much are cheap bananas when the ships aren't bringing them and the stores are boarded up?
The coolest thing to me about saving beans is you can sprout and grow them too. Philosophical eating will wane as the economic picture gets worse.

Your right Mike and seedling is dense nutrition.

The whole world cooks rice and beans as a staple.
Since I prefer uncooked foods, rice and beans are difficult to prepare other than sprouting them, and that counts as eating greens.
I don't live in winter climate so fresh produce year round is more accessable here in California.
It's surprising what backyard growers can produce. We meet once per month with our local raw food support group and exhange produce and greens; the abundant harvest is given away free.
A neighbor has an orange tree and I bring her produce to the raw food support group pot luck. In exchange, I bring back papaya or passion fruit to my neighbor, and take a some oranges home.
Most persons in our support group grow backyard gardens or have a hand full of orchard trees and it is wonderful to eat this diversified and ripe produce. Moreso, the produce has that life giving, life healing electricity in each bite and fortifies your body and frees it up from malady.
Rawfoodism is a lifestyle. If I am not near a live food source, I would walk till I drop to find one.
(and carry some beans)

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

"I believe that a simple and unassuming manner of life is best

for everyone, best both for the body and the mind."
- Albert Einstein

"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better." -A.E.

"Our task must be to free ourselves by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty." - A.E.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

Follow Jack Spirko's modern survival philosophy

"Everything You Do Should Improve Your Position in Life Even If Nothing Goes Wrong"

For example:

One key to modern survivalism is debt elimination. In the event of a disaster from personal up to global those in less debt are better suited to handle what comes their way. Yet even without any type of disaster having low to no debt will result in a much more sustainable and rewarding lifestyle.

Having firearms and the training to use them is useful in anything from a garden-variety home invasion to a true societal breakdown and it can be the difference between life and death. Yet if nothing goes wrong the armed citizen is still more confident and makes decisions based on reality vs. fear.

Storing extra food is “Survivalism 101” and there are many things that can go wrong from a personal up to a global level where such stored food is potentially life saving. Yet by following the mantra of “store what you eat and eat what you store” modern survivalists actually spend less money via a classic method known as “capital deferral.” This is accomplished by purchasing what will be used anyway at today’s prices to beat inflation, much the way Southwest Airlines does by purchasing fuel contracts while prices are lower.

This concept simply continues though just about every facet of survivalism. If you put in solar panels and/or wind generators, and you are ready to handle a black out no matter what the cause or how long it lasts. Yet even if nothing goes wrong, and you pay less for you electric bill and increase your property value.

Learn to “live off the land” with hunting, fishing and foraging and you will be more likely to survive a disaster but if nothing goes wrong you are enjoying the outdoors, getting exercise, saving money and eating better quality food all at the same time.


One of the things on my wish list is to buy an all electric car (a Tesla) and put solar panels on my garage.

If the poo hits the fan, I have a vehicle with unlimited fuel.

If the poo doesn't hit the fan, I have a cool vehicle.

I hope Tesla gets around to making an all electric truck.

Practice using your firearms

I'm a little nervous about how many people have bought guns and then tossed them in their survival pile. It would be devastating to kill an innocent bystander or miss a critical target.

Might want to edit your post and remove some of the info about your treasures. It's amazing how much information we give about ourselves in the course of time and an ill-intentioned person could piece it together and end up on your doorstep. I promise it won't be me though. I'll assume you took my first piece of advice.

This is a great list

but add a water purifier.


Great prep list

Great prep list. A few little things that I would suggest are a good pair of boots and maybe some sutures for your first aid kit.
Also, make sure you practice with the guns, especially the AK-47, if you're not used to it the sights can be kinda tricky.

My parents just sold their house

Good news guys. Parents just sold their house for 600k. We owed 567k and with fees it will be around 600k so it worked out pretty well.

They are looking for a house about 10 miles outside of Jacksonville (30 miles away from downtown) in a somewhat rural area. Once I move back in December, I plan to put up a fence around the house, build a chicken coop, and start a small garden in the yard.

My question is should they rent or buy this new house? Renting is cheaper and is a great shelter against the upcoming housing price crash. If they own a house they might lose some money, but that land is theirs and a certain security comes with that. If your landlords want you out to use your place as a haven, your out.

What do you guys think?

"A living Constitution is a dead one" -Ron Paul


Glad they got out of it, but feel kinda sorry for the one's who are going into it. I will never in my lifetime spend that much on housing.

+...Pray for Your Enemies and Moral Courage for Righteous Leaders, so that Justice Will Be Delivered to the Innocent...+

I am starting to get used to...

the "its me or you" attitude so I don't feel too bad. and yeah 600 thousand for a house is pretty darn ridiculous but it is a really nice house in a really nice neighborhood.

"A living Constitution is a dead one" -Ron Paul

Germany had no roaming gangs

Germany had no roaming gangs in October 1923. Well, apart from those brown-shirt nazi guys. But they usually didn't beat people up. Well, unless they thought you're a communist or Jew.

Okay. My original argument is getting weak...

Oh. I got it. Roaming gangs didn't beat up people or go on looting rampages because there was nothing to steal. Check out those photos of desperately poor people in rags pushing wheelbarrows full of Reichsmarks. What, you're gonna knock over the old lady for her 2 trillion?

And then what? Buy a pack of cigarettes? Not bloody likely.

You'd have hard enough time trying to find an open shop willing to do business in such a harsh climate! Most shuttered themselves until it was all over.

Poor people who lost their savings and needed basic foodstuffs generally went to soup kitchens run by political action groups.

Like the nazis.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

What? No Roaming Gangs?

Haven't you read "When Money Dies?" The roaming gangs went after the farmers; anyone with food. The farmers would sell their food to anyone without gold or silver; no paper money. So, they became victims of the starving masses.


The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

personal fear

I've got my own personal fear...

Have preparations, guns, gold, food, etc...

I just have this nagging feeling, that when something goes down, I won't be home or be able to get to my home/supplies.

So I've slowed on the physical preparations and have been talking more with the kids for mental/"spiritual" preparation.

Just this nagging feeling, I'll be stuck on the wrong side of the flooded river and watch my house and preparations float away, allegorically speaking.

Ron Paulio

I envy your preparedness, and couldn't help but laugh when I saw that ur a 22yr old FSU student from Jville. I am the exact same (well I'm back from Tally now, living near the beach). What high school did you go to?



"A living Constitution is a dead one" -Ron Paul

Reminds of the internet predator video

my daughter has, and something to do with dino's! They found out where the target was by asking questions like this. Not accusing anyone of anything, it just made me think of her video. Yeah be careful Paulio, might want to move some of your valuables to other locations if possible.

+...Pray for Your Enemies and Moral Courage for Righteous Leaders, so that Justice Will Be Delivered to the Innocent...+


And I'd get a back-up for the back-up plan on water - spending time in 3rd world countries I've seen people spend hours a day just getting water. It doesn't look like fun and I'm planning on that never being me.

I have a pitcher pump connected to my well for when the power goes out, and rain barrels. I've thought about an atmospheric water generator, but those take power to run - I'm about a mile from the St. Marks river - I hope to never have to make that a daily trek but I'm looking at a good filter system too...and thankfully it rains a lot here in north florida.

You can go a long time without eating, or eating less - you can't go long or far without water.

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The other day I read somewhere about someone using a

de-humidifier and then filtering the water collected from the de-humidifier to drinkable water. I don't know how much water you can get from running a de-humidifier. And , this would require some sort of electricity.

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I was wondring the same

I was wondring the same thing. Ecoloblue is essentially a high tech dehumidifier. I was thinking of getting a regular dehumidifier and putting the water through a Berkey.... anyone have any thoughts on this?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Form a neighborhood watch group to fight crime.

The neighborhood watch group can be transformed to a local militia when you need to defend yourselves.
Don't depend on police. They'll be home defending their own families.
If the bad people try to break into your home to hurt your family, where can you best place yourself to make them pay? A place where you can cover doors and windows?
If you know they're coming maybe the best place to defend your home is outside where you can maneuver.
These are things to think about before the trouble comes.

Are you kidding?

They just past the sweeping financial overhaul which will stabilize everything. There will be no more taxpayer funded bailouts, no more threat of depression this is big news! (All complete sarcasm of course). Your preparedness is great but Florida is a bad spot. Come join us in the Northern Intermountain west. build a partially underground greenhouse which gets 9 moths of growing even above 45 degrees north. Find some property near a national forest where you can hunt.

North Florida...

Is a pretty nice spot actually, just about everything will grow here without a property backs up to 300 hundered acres of timber company land and there is a state park of thousands of acres not even a mile down the road from me - and the apalachicola national forest is close (about 500k acres)

and I never need a parka :)

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I'd have to bag alot of groceries to make that happen.

I only make $9 an hour. :(

"A living Constitution is a dead one" -Ron Paul