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Big Time Rationing of UK Health Care: Secret Plans Cut Even Basics

Read all about it. This will be Amerika's future health care system.

Axe falls on NHS services: NHS bosses have drawn up secret plans for sweeping cuts to services, with restrictions on the most basic treatments for the sick and injured.
By Laura Donnelly, Health Correspondent
Telegraph, 24 Jul 2010

Some of the most common operations — including hip replacements and cataract surgery — will be rationed as part of attempts to save billions of pounds, despite government promises that front-line services would be protected.

Patients’ groups have described the measures as “astonishingly brutal”.

An investigation by The Sunday Telegraph has uncovered widespread cuts planned across the NHS, many of which have already been agreed by senior health service officials. They include:

* Restrictions on some of the most basic and common operations, including hip and knee replacements, cataract surgery and orthodontic procedures.

* Plans to cut hundreds of thousands of pounds from budgets for the terminally ill, with dying cancer patients to be told to manage their own symptoms if their condition worsens at evenings or weekends.

* The closure of nursing homes for the elderly.

* A reduction in acute hospital beds, including those for the mentally ill, with targets to discourage GPs from sending patients to hospitals and reduce the number of people using accident and emergency departments.

* Tighter rationing of NHS funding for IVF treatment, and for surgery for obesity.

* Thousands of job losses at NHS hospitals, including 500 staff to go at a trust where cancer patients recently suffered delays in diagnosis and treatment because of staff shortages.

* Cost-cutting programs in pediatric and maternity services, care of the elderly and services that provide respite breaks to long-term carers.

The Sunday Telegraph found the details of hundreds of cuts buried in obscure appendices to lengthy policy and strategy documents published by trusts. In most cases, local communities appear to be unaware of the plans.

Dr Peter Carter, the head of the Royal College of Nursing, said he was “incredibly worried” about the disclosures.

Katherine Murphy, of the Patients Association, said the cuts were “astonishingly brutal” and expressed particular concern at moves to ration operations such as hip and knee operations.

“These are not unusual procedures, this is a really blatant attempt to save money by leaving people in pain,” she said.

“Looking at these kinds of cuts, which trusts have drawn up in such secrecy, it particularly worries me how far they disadvantage the elderly and the vulnerable.

‘‘We cannot return to the days of people waiting in pain for years for a hip operation or having to pay for operations privately.”

She added that it was “incredibly cruel” to draw up savings plans based on denying care to the dying.

Doctors across the county have already been told that their patients can have the operations only if they are given “prior approval” by the PCT, with each authorization made on a “case by case” basis.

More:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/7908742/Axe-falls-on-NHS-s...

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didn't ventura want universal healthcare?

saw him touting for socialized medicine on larry king once. their camp brings out such charming candidates. and lately there was a clip about him basically having no plan for illegal immigration/arguing for open borders or something. i didn't bother watching the clip, but i just read the comments. not feeling too guilty about not watching. the political aspect of this movement really needs some separations.. some aspects are becoming mud-like.

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jtstellar, I think that you are right about Ventura.

Ventura:

"The State of Hawaii has had state-run health care for over 40 years and it works fantastic there. In fact, Rush Limbaugh even got treated there and said how great it was, before he found out that it was state-run health care," Ventura says. "If government-run health care is so bad, then why do we give it to our veterans and have we given it to them since World War I?"

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2010/03/jesse_ventura_t_3...

But not completely from this:

Ventura:

"No national care, but pure capitalism can’t work
I don’t support nationalized health care. I think any time you get a system where there’s only one provider, you get corruption. Competition creates better service and keeps prices down."

"By its very nature, medical care can’t be a purely capitalist venture. If it becomes only about making money, we get to the point where we’re messing with people’s lives and health just to make a buck. We do need to have some kind of regulation or watch dogging system in place to keep HMOs from getting out of hand."

Source: Do I Stand Alone, by Jesse Ventura, p.138-9 Jul 2, 2000

http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Jesse_Ventura_Health_Car...

I know that Ventura has changed his position on climate change.

He used to believe in anthropogenic global warming, but apparently his son talked him round on that issue!

He's open to new information, which is good.

I'll tell you where the money goes in the NHS.

Bureaucracy and drugs.

The NHS have been extremely lavish in the last 25 years. The money hasn't gone on front line staff or hospitals.

Its been spent on an army of new administrators and dishing out more drugs.

My girlfriend has long standing health problems and the NHS are quite happy to dish out all manner of weird and wonderful pills to her like Skittles.

Of course, she isn't getting any better, but at least the drug companies are making money.

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Brits4RonPaul, Like the mess at the BBC?

The execs get the honey, while the worker bees get none. In the case of health care, people will die.

BBC executives receive extra pension cash
BBC executives are topping-up their pensions from a secret fund despite asking staff to accept cuts in their own retirement packages, it has emerged.

Mark Thompson, director general of the BBC, along with eight executive board members are understood to have access to a multi-million pound pension fund, while other members are excluded.

It comes after almost 20,000 BBC staff were asked to accept a 1 per cent cap on their pensionable salaries.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/7909050/B...

Of course, the BBC problem is easy to fix.

Just privatize it and abolish the license fee (tax). If the BBC survived that it would do so on its own merits as a commercial venture.

Unfortunately, the new coalition aren't really interested in cutting taxes.

No, their job is to keep squeezing people so that they cry out for a left-wing "solution" to their problems.

Problem-reaction-solution.

actually...

I'd rather the BBC(and the mess that comes with it) than see Rupert Murdoch take over the UK TV airwaves.

It's a culture thing I guess...

Unfortunately the BBC is funded by a TAX.

People go to prison for non-payment of it. With the Murdoch media, all I have to do is unsubscribe!

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You're right about that sambahdi

The BBC turned into FOX News? Beck and O'Reilly feeding the Brits all of that NeoCon propaganda?

No, that would be hard on the digestion that for the Brits.

Front Page

One of the characteristics of eugenics is to cull out *undesirable* segments of the population. Socialized medicine directly targets the elderly as they are too old to work and be taxed as well as require more *maintenance costs* as they age.

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"...To reduce the surface population"

Next will be a brand new food to hit the empty market selves, "Soylent Green."

morning bump.

morning bump.

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Thanks, although it's afternoon now.

Talk about wanting people to die quickly and painfully.

Canada's govt health care system is not too far behind

Fraser Health Authority confirms cutbacks to surgeries, services (Aug 2009)
The Fraser Health Authority confirmed Thursday it intends to cut surgeries, seniors' programs and services for the mentally ill to help deal with a budget shortfall...
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Fraser+Health+Authority+con...

Canadian Health Officials: Our Universal Health Care Is 'Sick,' Private Insurance Should Be Welcomed (Aug 2009)
Dr. Anne Doig, the incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, said her country’s health care system is “sick” and “imploding”...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.html

30 second video on what some Canadians think of their govt health care system
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EPd2i4Jshs

we are the Remnant

Medicare was bailed out before bailouts were cool

In Canada public health care is kept afloat by the printing press. And most people think it's free. Or paid for with taxes. Hahaha! Healthcare is always an issue in federal elections even though it's supposed to be under provincial control. The issue is always how much money the provinces are going to get from the feds to bail out their systems.

The solution is to give

The solution is to give people healthy, natural, nutricious food to eat and half of the health problems would go away. The other half could be solved by getting rid of Big Pharma and the AMA. sigh...

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

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Could not agree more with you.

Preventative medicine prevents this problems from occurring in the first place, and means that medications should be the last resort, not the first.

Front Page Material

This should be posted at HuffPo. They seem to be the ones who think that socialized medicine help the poor and elderly the most. Seems to me those are the folks getting the axe.

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This type of care does help the poor, elderly, mentally ill,etc.

....TO DIE and in pain from withholding treatment and care!!

The people who want this kind of health care do not have a soul. They are not human.

Of course

The old and terminally ill are considered "Shovel Ready."

When Universal Health Care is implemented in America...

make sure you don't get sick

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or you will end up dead with the government's blessing.

The clock is ticking.

There is no such thing as a bigot

in a socialized society..We are all the same ..Commrad.
The pot belongs to everyone..take what you want till it's gone ..Then hang on for the ride..When muliple failed systems come together, you get a BIG failed system..Starting up a system that takes in other systems which are in Debt sounds self destructive to me..
But we can ALL go down together & happy..Rid it till it's broke ..His name is "destroyer" for a reason.

it seems they try hard

to make sure we will

we are the Remnant