The most important question to ask our politicians - "Who's running the show - the fat cats or the People"?

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While the political dicourse has many subtopics like race, debt, military and socialism, it all boils down to this: "Who's really running the Show"?

The fact is, the source of all political problems and solutions can be found in this one simple question! Look at Ron Paul's focus and the subject of his books. Does he see the problem and the solution? Is he trying to tell us something?

While most of our problems flow from the fountain of concealed control, the beast can not be confronted if "we allow them" to remain hidden behind the veil of confusion. This is why the most salient question we can ask our politicians is - Who's really running the show! The fat cats or the People!

No doubt, the people feel like they have been snookered. If we can free the debate from the fog of perphireal issues - then and only then do the patriots have a fighting chance.

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You are so right...

Wake up call, thunder before rain!

AMERICA RISING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PICS OF CROWD AT SEARCHLIGHT, NEVADA

Google, or Youtube Pics of crowd at Searchlight, Nevada, or see these:

http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2010/03/pictures-f...

This youtube video that was never aired on main stream media, and should have been:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvWmOHj3z8Y

Wake up call, thunder before rain!
AMERICA RISING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is is awesome. No wonder we don't see this on the liberal media news! We gotta' keep up the pressure and vote them out in Nov.

It is amazing what we do not see on the news!!! There has NEVER been an uprising of Americans like this administration has caused!! Think about it!!

Well!!! I guess it's not just us "Southern Rednecks" any longer!!

Pass this on... Let people know what they don't see on the news!

Ralph,I stand corrected

You have it right,It appears you just added the Fat cats or people part.Sorry didn't mean to scare your memory.LOL!

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No problem feel free to check me any time,

I can always use the help. I wish people would actually start asking this question at town hall meetings.

As long as there is a show, those with economic power

will be those who run it. This has always been the way. And it feeds on itself because those with economic power use the political power they control to give themselves economic privilege. It is human nature for politicians to be bought.

So asking the question you ask is just more of the delusional thinking that "if we just get the right people in office" then everything will be good and we can be free. Politics is a rigged game; only those with economic power can win, so playing this game is just like a dog chasing his tail.

The solution is self government, i.e., freedom. Do everything we can privately, and then some. Avoid at all cost having government do anything but set down the most fundamental of rules and then let us privately settle disputes if we think others have not followed the rules. Private police, private arbitration, private punishment, insurance, private credentials (as opposed to licensing), private roads, private everything.

"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley

history confirms

the way of power....imho

why I believe reclaiming personal FREEDOM is a self directed and self actualizing LIFE STYLE approach....

rather than a reactionary and OTHER driven approach

another reason I believe OctoBox to be sharing some truly important information regarding "localism" and self-sufficiency

cee cee

I'd love see the squirming created by that type of question!...

Alas and alack, I think very few would have the intestinal fortitude to honestly answer that question.

But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers

There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer

Corporations are running the show

Nader sent me this email and I believe it applies to this topic:

If one central issue drove our campaign, it was subordinating corporate power to people power.

The Supreme Court underscored the urgency of this project in January, when it ruled that corporations have the free speech rights that belong exclusively to living, breathing humans. The First Amendment guarantees corporations the right to spend whatever they choose to influence election outcomes, the Court ruled.

But corporations are not humans, to state a truism apparently not evident to the Court's five-justice majority. We have to take action to rescue our democracy from corpocracy.

Please read the note below from Robert Weissman, the president of Public Citizen, an organization I founded almost 40 years ago to confront and curtail excessive corporate power.

Ralph Nader

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Add your name to the tens of thousands demanding a constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court ruling that will allow corporations to take over our democracy.

Pick up a copy of the U.S. Constitution. Can you find the word corporation in it? You cannot.

The U.S. Constitution guarantees you and me - living, breathing human beings, citizens of the United States - the right to free speech.

In one of the greatest affronts to our democracy ever, however, five justices of the U.S. Supreme Court decided in January, in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, that corporations have free speech rights just like you and me.

And, decreed the Court, that includes the right to spend whatever corporations like to support or oppose candidates for elected office.

We can't afford to let this decision stand!

Sign Public Citizen's petition calling for a constitutional amendment to overturn this corporate coup.

And then forward this message to five friends. We're going to win this fight, but it's going to take a mass mobilization.

If you care at all about the value of your vote and the future of American democracy, or about reforming health care, reining in Big Oil, halting climate change, reregulating Wall Street, stopping consumer ripoffs, or promoting a just trade policy, I urge you to act now and sign the petition.

Our petition calls upon Congress to pass and send to the states for ratification a constitutional amendment to restore the First Amendment and fair elections to the people. It specifies that corporations do not have First Amendment speech rights.

Yes, corporations already pour money into politics. But things can get worse.

And, after the Supreme Court's decision, they will.

Consider this: In the most recent election cycle (2007-2008), a little over $5.2 billion was spent on all 468 congressional races and the presidential contest combined.

In the same time frame, ExxonMobil registered profits of $85 billion.

$85 billion.

Seventeen times the total amount spent on federal election contests.

So, in just one election cycle, a tiny fraction of Exxon's profits could be used to buy our politicians. Lock, stock and barrel.

There are measures available to mitigate the harm from the decision. We must have public financing of elections. We need better donor disclosure rules. The federal government should refuse to buy goods and services from any company with a federal contract (and states and locales should act similarly). Shareholders should be required to approve any corporate political expenditure by an affirmative vote. Public Citizen is working on all of these.

But while these measures can offset the damage from Citizens United, the only way to get corporate money out of our elections is to overturn the decision itself. That requires a constitutional amendment. Corporations are not people, and they are not entitled to the First Amendment's protections of the expressive and democratic participative rights of real, live human beings.

The only way to get that job done is with a constitutional amendment overturning Citizens United and establishing the principle that the First Amendment and our democracy belong to We, the People, not Exxon, GE or Walmart.

So, please sign the petition, and then forward this message to five friends.

Onward,

Robert Weissman
President, Public Citizen
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I do not agree with Weissman or Nader's solution for an admendment. I believe Ron Paul's solution is correct, "GET BACK TO THE CONSTITUTION", go retro.

Last week, David Cobb, ran for president in 2004 in Green Party, pased through town to talk about this issue. I believe it would be wise for Liberty candidates to talk about this issue, debate this issue, because I'm positive any amendment to the Constitution from the left would further erode our power as INDIVIDUALS in a Republic.

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Exactly right!

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Have you seen this thread

Have you seen this thread Granger? http://www.dailypaul.com/node/139873

I looked through it quickly but I didn't see any comments from you. I didn't want you to miss it.

BUMPITY, BUMP, BUMP!

BUMP!

Inquiring minds want to know?

Voting and Lobbying

has never ONCE brought about a free-society.

Not once in all human history.

Violence has never brought about a "lasting" free-society, never ONCE in all human history.

Protest has never brought about a "lasting" free-society, never ONCE in all human history.

If we think like this we'll be able to eliminate all the wasted attempts/solutions -- this is how I came up with "community-economics"

I began a simple meditation and looked at reality and introduced NO fantasy, such as; "maybe if we vote (abdicate or steal) or lobby (purchase or bribe) we can attain liberty"

We need to eliminate oxy-moronic thinking.

Congress/Senate never had the power to give you self-rule -- oddly enough self-rule can only be had by self-rule (free-market) means.

The mechanism to keep a free-market is EXACTLY the same mechanism to attain it.

*whacks head* "Who'd a thunk it???"

I agree with the buy-local sentiment Octo

but what about products/companies that require economies of scale? One can't build automobiles locally- everywhere. How would you reconcile your "buy local" mantra against the realities of large-scale industrial production? Is "buy American" buying local in this (your) context?

Well I'll be

You really do get it. From the beginning of America we all were told this by our FATHERS.

Now for a peacefull solution you need to convince the other half of the Citizens to want FREEDOM more than anything else. America, itself is rather oxy-moronic.

OctoBox not only gets it.....he shares it

so agree

THIS is more than a philosophy or position: it is a FREE life style....

and is the elegantly simple, but disciplined solution

cee cee

It's either end the fed and

It's either end the fed and restore sound money,nullification or as a last resort secession returning the states to there free and independent status.All of which will be and should be de facto when this imperial government collapses by its own deviations from the constitution,to wit we will all be better off.

"A government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820

Right Goal, Wrong Strategy

Sure. Ending the Fed would do the trick, but the educational curve will keep you mired in hope with no results.
If you want to end the Fed, repeal the 16th and 17th first.

Vote for Liberty...Buy Silver Eagles.

Your under the impression

Your under the impression that this government operates within the confines of the constitution.Why should they when the people that elect them don't base their choice on it.
It only comes up when theres a question of "constitutionality" of government actions,and who exactly has the final decision? The same government that wants to use it per their twisted definitions.

Reforming this beast would take a miracle from god.Thats why I advocate an end to central banking(one issue kept simple),and nullification by the states,short of that,secession as a last resort.

Speaking of repealing amendments,add the 13th,14th,15th,19th,23rd,24th,and 26th to that.All of these are state issues and the federal government has no "powers" in these matters.

"A government of reason is better than one of force." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1820

Some of this is just plain

Some of this is just plain racist opinion. I personally lived with a woman who, as a girl, got to flee Germany on one of the few children's shipments. If they had a "guarantor" in another country, they could leave. Nazis stood over her while she packed to make sure she took nothing of value from the country. She slipped a ring off her finger into a shoe. She never saw her family again. I KNOW this is true..but some of these guys are thinking in a twisted way..

israel

is running the show

This is the most important topic on the list in a long time...

Ron Paul has showed us the way time and time again. END THE FED! Everything else will fall into place after the money grabbers are removed. Ron Paul has been fighting for this goal for a long time. If we can remove the elites control of the money they are done. People in our history have died for trying to do this...

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Only as a free man shall I perish...

Ralph,I liked the first title

You put up better,Many below agree.

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What was it I forgot.

I came in late last night a little tipsy from a nite out with the band and changed it in a state of stupor!

Don't remember exactly

But it was something along the lines of the idea that we should hold them to a platform that they work for us.I think "Who do you work for" was part of it.
Maybe someone else could remember exactly,But it was worded well.

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I'm very dissapointed that Ron Paul voted NO for the 9.11

first responder health bill.

I called his office 4 times in the past & never got a straight answer on his position.

Too many people are dying from the toxic dust, caused by asbestos & the total DESTRUCTION of the three skyscrapers. Our GOV. was proven to lying to it's citizens by changing the air quality paramaters (EPA) & telling the folks it was OK to continue working.

Big Insurance & others are behind the stoppage of this bill & It sickens me that Dr.Paul would not at least make some compromise to help these American hero's who have been literally bombed & bamboozled by the Bush administration.

pretty sure if you read a bill summary you might think

first responders would be likely to see little money or medical care from that bill

go to opencongress.org....or read about the LIMITATION of LIABILITY for WTC contractors and the City of NY "buried" in the bill (along with other goodies)

at energycommerce.house.ogv/Press_111/20100

thinking Ron Paul, like I think many if not most of us here, would have supported 8 billion for care

IF the 8 billion was going directly to these folks (so they could make their OWN care choices and decisions)

rather than going to agencies, panels, advisors, and being spent on data collection systems, outreach, research, etc

cee cee

Ron Paul should be working to make this bill better

NO doesn't cut it.

& the $$ goes to research on what kind of cancer & other diseases these unique "explosions" caused.

Also there is 5 health centers in the NY/PA/NJ area that are currently treating 10,000+ first repsonders. They would get heavily funded.

Again, Just voting NO & not getting involved doesn't cut it.

for all we know Ron Paul is working to make the bill better

how much has been spent on cancer research to date? even if the entire 8 billion were spent directly on research, would we be futher along?

do you think those who are ill will benefit by more research?

or do they need money for care NOW? (hate to say this but some other countries offer far more advanced occupational & chemical exposure treatment protocols than we do: and almost all of those protocols are considered experimental by our fabulous public health types)

and should the responders not be able to go anywhere (other than 5 designated health centers) to get whatever care they determine? (not to mention 5 centers would receive exactly how much)

sorry....I just do not trust our government or the intention of the bill as much as you do....

and I will never fail to question why the bill needs to contain liability limitations for either NYC OR the WTC contractors

cee cee

I would like to see it reintroduced

without all the bureaucracy added,Who's been taking care of these folks to date?Just kick them down the funds,Administration is already in place.
This was to make jobs for some friends.

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