1988 Firing Line: Ron Paul and William F. Buckley - Consistency!

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Enjoy this weekend view. Watch Ron Paul "Ron Paul" William F Buckley! Ron Paul's consistency is reassuring.

Firing Line: Ron Paul and William F. Buckley (1988) - Part 1 of 4

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Firing Line: Ron Paul and William F. Buckley (1988) - Part 2 of 4

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Firing Line: Ron Paul and William F. Buckley (1988) - Part 3 of 4

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Firing Line: Ron Paul and William F. Buckley (1988) - Part 4 of 4

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I watched part of the first one, but I just cannot stand

Wm. F. Buckley. I couldn't bear to watch it any more despite how much I love to see the good doctor in anything.

Debbie

Great video

shows the consistency of Dr.Paul. Even though Buckley is polite I'd still label him a douche and an enemy of the state....take him away!!

9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2012

Truly amazing!

Now that's what I'm talking about, that's what Freedom Watch needs to be. It was when it first started and I watched every episode. Now... 2 minute rapid fire drive by's with minimal content or actual discusssion. It's the difference between diving into a deep cool lake and being spritzed in the face with luke warm water.

I've been wondering why it's been shortened so much and crammed full with guests and pieces. I think I figured out Fox's agenda and I think the judge is unfortunately just going along with it because he has his foot in the door and doesn't want to blow his opportunity to spread the message however he can. Unfortunately it may backfire:

1. Neocon propaganda works well in short soundbites, libertarian ideas need more time to explain. Despite how good the judge is, if you make him take on too many guests and shorten the amount of time they have to discuss things it lends the advantage to neocon rhetoric when it is on the show. In the minds of the average fox viewer the neocons soundbites make sense and the judge's principled positions sound foolish, though if he had time to explain further and point out the fallacies and illogical position of his opponent, the viewer would definitely, even if begrudgingly, side with the judge.
This way Fox sucks us liberty minded folk back in without poisoning too much the minds of their carefully hypnotized masses.

2.Keep the viewers dumb. One could learn quite a lot from that Buckley/Paul debate and come to reasonable conclusions as well as find excellent starting points for further research. By keeping the discussion short and disjointed, not much of any of that occurs on tv today, and it's not just Freedom Watch, pretty much all "news" programs do the same. It's quite sad.

Just like our education system, it is part of the deliberate dumbing down of America. The less educated make less money, consume less resources, rely more on big government, ask fewer questions and make wonderfully obedient subjects/slaves.

We need a return to the Firing line format where ideas can be discussed in depth for the enlightenment of all.

What lunacy!

Freedom Watch is the way it is because the Judge likes it that way. That's his style. I happen to like the fast pace and so do a lot of other people. That's why it's higher ratings than Stossel's show which is more subdued. Watch Stossel if you want something more slow paced.

All this Fox conspiracy stuff is just crazy.

Bear in mind Firing Line was on public television. They don't have to pay the bills, as they're subsidized by government. So, they don't have to try to keep the viewers' interest to maintain their existence. The average person will find this show boring and not able to sit through it. It would be unlikely to succeed on commercial television.

My favorite people in the world: Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, Peter Schiff, Judge Napolitano, Milton Friedman, Bob Barr, and John Stossel

Maybe you are right, but I tend to resist

the notion that bad guys are plotting and manipulating everything. The Empire is so vast, freedom happens in the inevitable cracks.
I suspect partly it's just due to the dominant assumption that tv audiences today don't have the time/interest to focus for lengthy, non-inflammatory discussions of serious ideas. they require thinking and tolerance for the pursuit of truth with give and take and actual listening to the other side.
I too hope the Judge can shift over time toward more depth, but the program has already improved. He's a very smart guy, and I trust he'll keep improving the format.

There is no news under the sun

Isn't it sad that this was 22 years ago and things have not changed, only gotten worse. I do like the format of the interview, though, as others have pointed out. There is a respectful exchange or debate, even if they strongly disagree with each other. What goes on today is deplorable and I don't know why people let these OReilly's and Hannity's get away with it.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

utter principled consistency!

The Good Doc's intellectual basis for all his arguments are as if we heard him a minute ago in a CNN interview: they are as sound, as then, as they are today.

total VERITAS.

absolutely makes me love and respect the man, even more.

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Wow

This is an amazing video. Buckley's arguments are so weak compared to Dr. Paul's. It's great seeing a principled libertarian actually have a debate with a neo-con, not just a shouting match on Faux News.

Thanks Steve, it was so great to see

Dr. Paul enjoying himself and given time to express his views -- and sparring with the "Lion of Conservativism," and more than holding his own. Imagine a mainstream show actually airing a whole program examining the views of a third party candidate!

Intelligent program

You can't find programs like this on TV anymore, where the participants use the time they need to delve deeply into issues or expand on arguments without rudely interrupting each other. This is the format I would prefer to see something like "Freedom Watch" adopt.

My entire family has said the

My entire family has said the same exact thing.

This structure would be much much better for Freedom Watch.

Trade Buckley for O'Reilly or Hannity and this

conversation could be going on today, although probably on a dumbed down level. It's funny how antagonistic Buckley is to Paul; projecting aspects of his failed attempt at geting elected on Ron.

It never ceases to amaze me how consistent Dr. Paul has been over the years. The neocons and big government liberals have been consistent too. I guess it's just a matter of numbers.

What a contrast: Ron Paul

What a contrast: Ron Paul clearly articulating his positions, and Buckley, stuttering and stumbling; trying to defend the Welfare State, foreign interventionism, and spying on the American people. How did anyone ever consider Buckley a Conservative?

Greg, Buckley had charisma no doubt, but he was one ....

of the NeoCon gurus. Agree about not being a conservative. He liked wars, but he also liked legalized drugs.

What A Poised, Intelligent Presentation ....

... of libertarian philosophy by Dr Paul.

Buckley is Strange

Buckley spends way too much time debating Paul on the CIA. He almost takes Paul's political position against the CIA as a personal affront; just sayin' its weird.

Cause I think it kind of was

Buckley is creep right down to his fake accent. I still can't get over how people thought it was a good idea to talk like that. Buckley never was a friend to liberty and he continued to always make excuses for the empire.

Buckley always loved american foreign policy and understood that in order to have and under the table empire you needed an organization like the CIA to run it. How better to interfere in the lives of others. Congress can't control it because technically whatever they do officially never happened. Just ask the Pakistani people what Hilary's response was to the questions about the CIA drone attacks were.

"yes, we have a CIA, but I can't tell you what they do. Its a state secret." Where as If its a military action then you are invading countries and open empire

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/10/30-5

THAT would be because the scumsucker from NY/CT WAS WITH the CIA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Buckley,_Jr.#Educati...

though not sure if too many Americans were aware of that during the 1980's.

even AFTER the revelation of Iran-Contra & Savings & Loans/BCCI scandal, which were all money-laundering banks for the CIA, not sure if "conservatives" saw CIA as a "bad" thing to have around, either way.

besides I'm not even sure if most "conservatives" then, nor now actually realize that ALL neoCON turds were, and ARE actually LIBERALS incognito, in the most definite dictionary definition. hell, they were all disciples of Strauss and Trotksy, for frakk sakes.

Irony of ironies...

Thanks for backing up my suspicions

Lew Rockwell posted it on his blog and also mention skull and bones, Yale,(or do I repeat myself), and an informant To J Edgar Hoover.

He was a Super Creep!

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Some things do grow better with time. This is vintage Ron Paul, but he has not changed one bit.

Thx for the memories

Dr. Paul schooled both of them.

In '88 some of his arguments were still vague to me.
Now I know his answers.

Been a long strange trip.

How much have all of us changed in 22 years? A lot I ...

would suspect, especially in terms of our ideas. I would not even recognize myself in terms of what I was thinking about back then.

If we met Ron Paul 22 years ago knowing what we know now, we would have no trouble picking him out of a crowd of a million people. No one I know has that kind of consistency and clarity of thought.

Precisely why Ron Paul is one

Precisely why Ron Paul is one special man.

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Great Find!

If only people had listened to Ron Paul in 1988. Buckley is quite respectful throughout the interview.

Wow, wow, wow

that was so great to watch, just wonderful. I wish he was that young again, would it be wrong to clone him?

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Thanks quilting for that great comment.

What is really great is that his mind is just as young as it was then, just as sharp, just as quick, just as fair minded.

All those wows of yours give an exclamation point to this program and are still only an understatement!

thanks, bookmarked

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thanks for posting this.

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Thanks troy, 22 years ago and Ron Paul is a step...

ahead of even prime time William F Buckley, one of the smartest NeoCons ever.

This program is such a revelation for me to watch. Wow!

What a great mind Ron Paul has. He actually made Buckley look like a man of average intelligence.