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The truth: There is no "Ground Zero" Mosque being planned.


People who may or may not be Muslim purchased property. "Private property" as some like to say. It is an abandoned Burlington Coat Factory, about 2 blocks from Ground Zero.

You all are being led down the "divide and conquer" primrose path. Two threads just this morning that continue to spout the media lie, here at the DP... There was a day that these threads would have been immediately debunked and the poster cyber-flogged for not fact checking.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished. But it won't win elections or get media play, so I guess there is no place for it here any more?

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This all a distraction an to make the sheeple

Remember to hate Muslims, so they can attack and kill more Muslims, ie Iran, Syria, and Pakistan. The so-called conservative radio hacks, who claim to be Constitutionalists, are attempting to make you believe it's ok for the Feds to get involed in local issues, as long as 'it's for the greater good'. These hacks have been preaching about state and local sovereignty for over a year now, but now since the need to ignite the sheeple for another war, and keep the fantasy story of 911 in line, they switch. These frauds are 'selective' Constitutionalists, as they will always sway to please their Zionist paymasters. They are major contributors to the destruction of the Constitution, because they are the 'rights' bait and switch operatives.


I wrote a thread on this subject not too long ago.
They are preaching and propagandizing for genocide.
It has been morphed from their "19 Hijackers" story, out to now "all Muslims are the enemy and must be destroyed".

IF it's not clear that this is coming from Israel and their Zionist cohorts, then I don't know what could make it any more clear.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you guys for speaking up. The same neocons are at it dehumanizing Muslims for more endless wars for Israel sake. God forbid there is a terrorist attack and a Muslim is blamed, the stars are aligned for these vicious hatemongers inciting against fellow Americans of the Islamic faith.

Thanks for posting, couldn't agree more.
Much love,

America is obsessed with this topic.

I look forward to the time when it's over.

Don't worry, America will be obsessed with something else soon

We need someone to fall in a hole. Or maybe a Cuban kid could land in Florida? Maybe a cuban kid could land in florida and fall in a hole!!

cuban kid lands in america falls in a hole

and gets bitten buy a shark...


That's tragic. I heard sharks are muslim.

I'm planning to buy a parcel next to ground zero

I'll be constructing a 9-11 Truth Center for people to come and see all the evidence and documents relating to the events of 9-11. I think it will be a great way to educate folks. Spread this far and wide. Tell your favorite tv people. 9-11 Truthers are taking over ground zero.
Free admission for radical islamists and cia agents with their al queda ID badges.

thank you . . .

for cheering me up; some of the other posts were making me feel almost glum--


it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--


great idea!!
here are some videos on the subject that should help educate sheeple:

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sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Now that is a great idea!

I will start a chip in for you when you pick you parcel! I especially like the free admission for those who need to tour the place the most!

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.


I hope someone actually does that. THAT would make an interesting controversy.

If you think about it, I'm doing it to the same extent as the

All we need now is to spread it and it's real. The controversy is much better than any center anyone could build.


That's why I come out here, as a Truther, day after day, knowing it doesn't look good on my dossier....just to spread the word and hope it takes root all over the place. Making it real.

Cheers. :)

I think your dossier is smokin' hot, baby!

That truth looks FABULOUS on you, it does not make your dossier look fat at all... ;)

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

The Cordoba Initiative is

The Cordoba Initiative is their website. WND is running feature article of list of advisors and board of directors that have since been removed after Obama's remarks.One of the Board members is a John Mroz, an active member of the Council on Foreign Relations. The whole article is quite informative including the reason for the hispanic name of "Cordoba". The multi-faith initiative for this project began in 2006, according to the article under Bush. It sounds to me like a New World Order center rather than an Islamic "Y".

"It sounds to me like..." and that is all the proof you need

to abandon personal property rights? Freedom of religion? Most importantly, as you noted, this has been in the works since 2006. It is being trotted out now to DIVIDE and CONQUER people who really ought to band together and say "Nope, property rights are property rights."

It is so nice that you and Ruth took the time to come spout your personal opinions and act as if they have the weight of law or moral authority. Sadly, it does point out that even DPers will favor tyranny if they do not like your religion.

So, are we to abandon ALL efforts where the CFR has influence? Cuz your man has CFR buddies here in Idaho - NOW how do you feel about RP2012? Ready to hang him out to dry?

What hypocrisy! If this were my property, I would expect my fellow citizens to stand by my right to OWN it. Not even here...? Sad, sad, sad. Sure would be nice if a Dr. Paul or 2 would come out with the truth and support their property rights. Not holding my breath...

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

I seemed to have pushed a

I seemed to have pushed a button for Paul4won. Trying to sort out the hoopla over a "mosque at ground zero" required more information for me. I thought the fact that WND put out a very informative article with background information was relevant and timely. I posted existence of the article for information. I added my own conclusion about the article. What is your problem? Too much information!... or my conclusion about the article doesn't agree with yours? Have you seen their website "The Cordoba Initiative"? Have you read the list of notables on Board of Directors? Have you read their endorsement and support of the "Shariah Index Project"? There is more going on here than meets the eye.

My "problem" is a lack of truth

I don't really care who builds what, where. This issue is being packaged and sold just to divide you and me, and you insist on falling for it.
PLEASE bring more information, that is always good. But to keep this gong about "rights" is even adistraction. My point is TRUTH, obtained by DUE DILIGENCE. This got trotted out for political reasons, no one cared a month ago. Now all the headlines are about a "Mosque" and that is not accurate.
As for buttons, yeah, I can hardly stand to come here any more. I was a truther, it brought me here, now I see lies and liars celebrated here and it makes me grieve for us all. Without truth, we have no movement, we are just same sheep, different day.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

I'm having a lot of

I'm having a lot of difficulty following you. You talk about wanting information but ignore the information. You talk about rights but whose rights are you referring to? Searching for truth is always desirable but you seem to select which truth you want to hear. Who are the liars that are being celebrated here?

The headlines read "Ground Zero Mosque" - that is a lie

I DO get pulled into discussions about rights, it is not a mono-themed issue. My point with this post is abut doing your OWN due diligence in search of truth. In search of TRUTH, mind you, not in search of some "expert" to back up your opinion with their opinion.
If this is time to complain about the way people post, you are using "truth" as if it had variations, and that has become the norm in this society. TRUTH exists, it is a collection of facts that are obtained through rigorous research, and rational people have no problem discerning truth. Ever taken a "True / False" quiz? Did you have trouble understanding how they wanted you to answer?

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Good Luck to you in your

Good Luck to you in your quest!

This isn't

about property rights! This is about first amendment rights. Yes, absolutely, the founders of the ground zero mosque have their rights under the Constitution to build it, but the opponents also have their first amendment rights to voice their opposition against it, and their concerns are legitimate!

First amendment includes "no establishment of religion"

How much more evidence is there that "muslims" were responsible for 911 than those of other religions?

I say it's at least a draw.

I don't understand

what point you're trying to make.

First amendment right to lie?

Ruth, I promised myself I would not let you bait me, but I must expose your lie.
No one is complaining about protesters, I want them to know what it is they are protesting. I want them to cherish truth enough to look into it BEFORE they get swept up in the media-induced "protest."

And where in the Constitution does it say one must give up property rights if protester has a "legitimate" concern, and who picks the panel do determine which concerns are legit?

Have a nice life, Ruth, I am done talking to you. You are not interested in truth, and that is all I am interested in.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Can't you see you own contradiction?

You say "no one is complaining about the protesters," then you proceed to complain about the protesters!

I've made it clear no one is trying to force the ground zero mosque builders to give up their property rights. It seems to me, though, if the builders are sincere about their stated goal to "encourage open discussion and dialogue on issues of relevance to New Yorkers": http://www.park51.org/mission.htm , they wouldn't start the discussion by doing something that would alienate nearly two-thirds of New Yorkers!: http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2010/aug/19/mosq19-ar-461...

You're not any more interested in the truth than you're accusing me of being. I'm done talking to you, too.

What is the organizations charter?

I'm going to assume that as a religious organization, they are classified as a 501(c)3. That would make them a not-for profit corporation. Under the original constitution, it was the citizens who granted and revoked charters.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

Thanks for pointing this out

and I couldn't agree more.


What's next, are you going to tell me that the Zionists are actually a bunch of lunatics? Not sure I could handle that much raw truth in one day.