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America's civilian militias: Growing numbers of Americans are preparing for a war against their government

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/213880-America-s-civilian-...

Johnny Cochran trains fellow militia men to kill the enemy by stabbing them in the back.In heavy camouflage gear, Johnny Cochran squats down and shuffles noiselessly along the ground. His target is a large man who, like Cochran, is in military fatigues. Seconds later, Cochran leaps up and stabs the man once, hard, in the neck. The movement is swift, and would almost certainly be lethal, were it not for the fact that the 'weapon' Cochran is wielding is a pen.

The scenario I have just witnessed may be simulated, but its protagonists are deadly serious. This is a 'close combat training' session given by 'Fireteam Diamondback' - an armed militia group, or civilian 'army', based in west Texas, in the United States. Cochran, a chain-smoking 39 year-old with a handlebar moustache and goatee whose T-shirt reads: 'Disgruntled Combat Vet - Right Wing Extremist', is their leader. Biro-wielding or not, he's not someone you would wish to encounter in combat.

'Straight into the base of his skull,' he says, after pretending to plunge the pen into the neck of Steven Page, a member of another militia group who has joined the training. 'That's the nerve centre. Then you push forward. If you're dealing with someone short, that works like a charm, but if you're dealing with someone tall, grab his face, insert the knife and when you shove that knife forwards, pull him towards you.'

Cochran smiles. 'You're going to make a hell of a mess, but human flesh tears easily. Bone is a pain in the a--.' He knows what he's talking about, having served four years as a combat medic with the US Marines during Operation Desert Storm. His 'handle', or nickname, in the militia is 'Doc'. And yet, as he freely admits, the hypothetical enemy - the target he's teaching the people gathered here today to kill - is a US soldier.

Why? Cochran says he is simply exercising his constitutional right to assemble an armed civilian force that is prepared to fight any enemy, be they domestic or foreign. There are 27 men in Cochran's squad including, apparently, both former and serving soldiers, policemen and members of the sheriff's department.

This didn't surprise me. I'd already read about Richard Mack, a former sheriff of Graham County, Arizona, who now travels the country 'crusading for freedom and individual rights' and insists 'the greatest threat we face today is not terrorists; it is our own federal government'.

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Nonsense

These "groups" invariably consist of a few hicks and several more FBI agents.

"As revolutionary instruments

"As revolutionary instruments (when nothing but revolution will cure the evils of the State) [secret societies] are necessary and indispensable, and the right to use them is inalienable by the people." --Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1803

"Can it be believed that a grateful people will suffer [individuals] to be consigned to execution, whose sole crime has been the developing and asserting their rights" --Thomas Jefferson to William Small, 1775

"A first attempt to recover the right of self-government may fail, so may a second, a third, etc. But as a younger and more instructed race comes on, the sentiment becomes more and more intuitive, and a fourth, a fifth, or some subsequent one of the ever renewed attempts will ultimately succeed... To attain all this, however, rivers of blood must yet flow, and years of desolation pass over; yet the object is worth rivers of blood and years of desolation. For what inheritance so valuable can man leave to his posterity?" --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1823

"The generation which commences a revolution rarely complete it. Habituated from their infancy to passive submission of body and mind to their kings and priests, they are not qualified when called on to think and provide for themselves; and their inexperience, their ignorance and bigotry make them instruments often in the hands of the Bonapartes and Iturbides to defeat their own rights and purposes." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1823

13 No servant can serve two masters; for either he shall hate the one, and love the other, or else he shall lean to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and riches. - Luke 16

in that last paragraph, Jefferson really nails it!

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LAW all law is passed forward from the people.

The gov't has no claim as to people forming Malitias.
The Constitution mearly state that the Gov't MAY use and keep a Malitia element . The gov'ts power to have a Malitia is passed forward from the people not the reverse. The people can claim their own destiny and did not pass a restriction on themselves in this matter. The gov't has NO authority in this matter what so ever.

What is in the Constitution is gov't limits and grants , nothing more or less. The people have only confirmed this by installing Malitia into the Constitution, into the document that captures what has been passed forward, gov't rights and limitations. The Constitution is NOT the final authority nor is the Federal gov't. WE the people are the final authority as everything is forwarded from US. The gov't has NO authority to tell the people you may not maintain your own Malitia. That has been reserved to the people. To "YOU" as a citizen.

I do not advocate anything, but the right is your's for safe keeping.

WHO is the Malitia? ANY single citizen armed with as much as a musket, or knife, or club, or hands and feet. You yourself can become Malitia. But please learn your limitations. SELF CONTROL.

Malitias are to be used for DEFENSE. This I believe is why the U.S. is using Malitia overseas. They are considered Defensive posture. Of course we all know they serve another ENTITY, not the U.S. gov't interests. Life, liberty, and the persuit of Happiness, is the U.S. gov'ts interests to it's own citizens. NOT to the whole World at large. OUR U.S. Federal gov't has never been "Commissioned" to be the World SAVIOR. Leaders have taken that role upon themselves.

When you type

"Malitia" in the comments section, the Daily Paul's automatic spell check feature puts a dotted red line under it. When it does this it means the word is either misspelled or is a term nobody thought to include in the spell check dictionary. What you can do at that point is right-click the word to see what the spell checker suggests as correct spelling for what you are trying to write. In this case it offers five possibilities, the lead one being "militia."

Spell check features have their limitations and are more of a nuisance if you are writing in another language (Spanish for me), but it's best to pay attention when it underlines fairly common English words. They are probably misspelled.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

Join A Militia -- Break The Law?

Legal research on the subject of militias raises the question of their authority to organize. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States provides that: "The Congress shall have the power ... To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions ... To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress."

The Second Amendment reads: "A well regulated militia being necessary [for] a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

The Constitution, therefore, demonstrates that militias are a creature of the state, subject to being called forth by the U.S. government "to execute the laws of the Union..." This is bolstered by the wording of the Second Amendment which holds, "A well regulated militia being necessary [for] a Free State..." and by Article 1, Section 8, Subsection (16), which reserves to the states "the appointment of officers and the authority of training the militia..."

Title 10, U.S. Code, Section 311 further stipulates that the militia consists of all able-bodied males aged 17 to 45, both citizens and those who have declared their intent to become citizens, and of female citizens who are officers of the National Guard. It also specifies that the militia consists of two classes: the organized militia and the unorganized or reserve militia. Many states have similar statutes. Those citizens who apply, or are called up for service and are accepted by a state militia, are part of an organized militia. All others eligible under the law are members of the unorganized militia, and are subject to call up by the state.

http://www.constitution.org/col/sofonmil.htm

Militias are demonized by Israel, the Elite and Bilderberg Group

This is proof of the "Militia's" clear and necessary constitutional responsibility for its citizens.

When nobody except the most elite tyrants can effectively demonize and marginalize militia's, this is proof of their profound power on behalf of a republic.

Should the United Nations, Bilderberg, or nigh anyone attempt to enslave or force millions of people into a World Government.....there will be a resistance like they never found possible.

Even we who are armed are members of the militia. I openly carry a taser rifle and will not be harassed for doing so. This is the land of the free - well nothing is free unless we fight for it.

Where is the Authority for Militias?.....

Are militias lawful?

If militias are to gain respect amongst the people, they must do more than just act lawfully, and help their neighbors. Like it or not , they must be able to justify their existence within the law. Militia members have gathered many references and quotes from historical documents which they believe justify the existence of the militias. I have read these references, and I agree that militias can be lawful. But I've always had a nagging doubt as to whether the many militias of which I have written above, including the one of which I am a member, has been lawfully formed.

Everything I've seen regarding the militias and how they are viewed in law indicate that militias are subject to the civil authority. There are good reasons for this, chief among them the safety of the people, by assuring that the militias do not usurp authority not delegated to them. But what about those who say that militias are formed to assure that the governments do not usurp authority they do not have? These people will tell you that the militias cannot possibly submit to unlawful de facto governments, for that would defeat their very reason for existence.

Governments and militias exist through authority delegated by the People. Those who claim that militias were replaced by the National Guard must reckon with Article I, Section I of the constitutions for most states, including Michigan: "All political power is inherent in the People."

Who are the People?.....

http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/mil-jur.shtml

interesting

bump

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn
http://youtu.be/eWVrdFrpXHE

very, and also along the lines of what I have been thinking.....

as far as the comments below go....
bump.

What needs to happen is....

to have entire communities drop out of the slave system.

The USA is 52,000 local communities & commerce centers.

Declare Independence at the county level in a peaceful revolution. Declare economic independence. Stop buying globalist produced junk. Organic food cooperatives. Create your own local barter economy to end the depression.

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

how it happens - hypothetical

1) Elect friendly Sheriffs in every county of a State judicial district.
2) Elect friendly DA for that district.
3) Sheriff tells Feds to stay out of counties.
4) Start a state-regulated credit union with offices only in each county.

a) Local companies stop sending taxes to the Feds, particularly gas taxes. The money is transferred to county for their spending.
b) Local people stop paying Fed income tax.
c) Local companies and people should place all funds in a local bank or credit union.

Extra credit:
5) Start using your own local currency.
6) Start multiple credit unions or banks to spread the risk of Feds attempting to seize their assets.
7) Create your own power generation plant - hydro, nuclear, coal - somewhere within the counties.

Some good, some bad.

When the Civil War was fought, each State had a milit1a which was sent to do the fighting. States no longer have their own troops, with the National Guard now being a reserve of the federal army and not really under control of the State.

I agree, the most practical way to organize to resist the current tyranny of the federal and state governments would be to gain control of the position of county sheriff and prosecutor, and for the sheriff to deputize volunteer citizens into militia type units for local defense.

And I agree that people should just stop paying federal taxes plus business owners who cooperate with the federal government in withholding taxes should be arrested.

But as far as your suggestions to transfer gas taxes to the counties, use local currency, and create credit unions or banks and develop local energy generation, I totally disagree. Eliminate all taxes except for a head tax paid equally by everyone for minimum government. Local currency is fraud; we know that only gold or silver coins are real money, so why suggest local currency which history has shown causes economic boom and bust cycles, and depreciates in value. Historically, were not gold and silver coins universal money, locally or anywhere? As far a banking facilities, the only government involvement should be the requirement for 100% reserves against deposits and only gold and silver coins being legal tender. Otherwise banks and power generation are functions of the free market, not of government creation or planning. If local power can be privately developed, then good, but government should have absolutely no role in business other than to punish fraud.

The reality is that ultimately local political centers will come to pass, not by any planning or by overthrowing centralized government, but because as energy becomes more and more scarce these far away political units will collapse. When the power grid fails, which it surely will without adequate energy to maintain and fuel it, the population will crash. Cities will become uninhabitable without functioning infrastructure like electricity, water, sewerage, garbage removal, and food distribution. When the dust settles, only small rural communities will survive and life will resemble 1776. I am not talking about some far away future. If oil production falls by 5% a year, then in just 14 short years it will be half of what it was at the peak of production, and that is all it would take to destroy the US economy and collapse the already aged and unstable power grid. When the lights go out, everything changes.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

I find it fascinating that Alex agreed with the Militia...

I find it fascinating that Alex agreed with the Militia and didn't have any trouble with them......but that it's ALWAYS the SPLC aka ADL which seems to find FAULT with Militias!!!!

On every single job posting by the SPLC/ADL, there is this whole clap trap about "an unprecedented case of unease and malaiyse characterizes the militia movement because they are racists...Federal Law enforcement should have two fingers poised on these groups..." - and yet the SPLC/ADL is the bodyguards for one of the most tyrannical regimes in half a century.

Israel. "Another common factor amongst these groups is a quoting of "Jeffersonian" values or uttering anti-israel slogans..."

Well then I wonder what the ADL can say about all their racist ANTI-CHRISTIAN and anti-muslim laws, where all they seem to do is characterize muslims as radical terrorists and christians as white supremacists???

Boy, when you have a Federal Government this paranoid it's NO WONDER there is militias out there everywhere....I wonder if there is a bogey-man underneath the ADL's bed too, when Hurricaine Katrina happened....was that due to evil Muslim extremists?

The real truth is there has never been an organization more extreme and perhaps "poisonous" for the jewish people or freedom of religion, than the ADL, which is like a poisonous venus fly-trap that devours its victims.

It was said when this country was founded and Jefferson warned of the dangers of a radicalized paranoid government....he said if ever such time should come, America must be prepared to abolish that government by use of necessary force.

I guess the ADL zionist & globalist regime has a fear that "they" are that government, given all their countless twisting of laws to serve tyranny, their agenda to disarm the world by use of currency, & their leaders spouting off about having world government all the time. An apple never fell that far from the tree!!

Propagandists!

They continually try to sell the false idea that people who seek liberty and privacy are somehow racist. They always try to tie it to "the election of Obama". There are many more groups now but it is the opposition to socialism, corporatism, crushing debt, and complete destruction of property rights.....not race, which is largely the driving factor. Notice how they conveniently left out the financial issues when talking about the fear of collapse, I find it strange that militia men did not mention the money issues specifically as they normally would. This government imprisons more people than Russia or China, has the largest debt in the history of all humanity, and seems to not want to rest until our lives resemble "The Matrix". Potok, besides looking like a homeless man, does not seem to understand that we do not live in a cartoon world where resources are unlimited and government is the creator of jobs. When a guy on an island needs food and catches fish, he becomes a fisherman, if he sells the fish to me, he's a commercial fisherman, if I then sell the fish, I become a wholesaler or retailer or whatever. That's how jobs are created. The rest is the work of beggars and thieves. When this economy collapses which is looking like a certainty at this point, there is going to be PAIN! People who are not self sufficient could be in serious trouble and those who are self sufficient will be under scrutiny from all. It's already happening, if you don't just accept your government funds and work on integrating your entire life into some national database, you are labeled as paranoid or having something to hide. Potok and the writer of this article are both mentally ill if you ask me, for they lack the ability to see reality. They are no different than a person who jumps out a window believing that they can fly and I wish they would oblige by doing so.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

Notice how the SPLC

is behind this report too, and used for sources in the article?

It's always the SPLC and the ADL with the fear-mongering against those who might try to defend themselves. And the SPLC and ADL have an unusually strong influence on Federal Law Enforcement policies.
These are some dangerous people.

For each person training, how many do you think are

silently waiting in th wings?

What do you think the run on guns and ammunition was all about? I think it is only now easing because of the depression that is developing makes it impossible for many to continue stockpiling.

We have just entered what should be a 15 year long crisis period. You can mark its beginning with the 2006 - 2007 end of the real estate bubble. This crisis period will culminate in violence; this is just the way the repeat patterns work. (1775, 1861, 1941, 2020?) During these crisis periods people change. Their economic conditions make them think differently about their social arrangements and the viability of established powers come into question.

It is my view that the federal government is near its end; just like the USSR collapsed under the weight of its debt and disconnect from its people, so will the US go. When the retirement funds of millions disappear, the banks collapse wiping out your savings and checking balances, food becomes scarce, and half are unemployed, I think that even a small Constitutional government could be swept aside, and the federal government is no longer a small Constitutional government.

If we are fortunate, the federal government will just peacefully give up like the USSR government. But if the federal government attempts to continue in existence it will come to a fight; this is the more likely future. This will not be large armies meeting in a battlefield. There will be a guerrilla war, with assassinations of government office holders and bureaucrats, bombings, sabotage, small scale raids, and the like.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

It seems the Feds want to entrap some more patsies.

I'll bet that the "right wing extremist" in the article (if he exists) is an undercover Federal agent.

Americans don't need to "join the militia" whatever that means.

If you are an armed citizen looking out for yourself and your family, you are the militia!

Don't submit to incrementalism as we did in Britain.

History proves

History proves that it will always take a union of the clans to succeed.Look up Mark 19 and you will realize what we are up against.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

The cannabis clans are ready.

After 40 years of open defiance against tyranny and oppression, cannabis activist and growers are greater, stronger and more determined than ever to get our freedom and liberty back.
They understand, that most people have be so inundated with the war on drugs propaganda machine, (and it is spewed out with the tap full wide open constantly) that the war on drugs is a generational lie.
The cannabis industry is in support of Liberty and Freedom. Let them, even support them to do their calling. They have been our first line of defiance for a long, long time against all odds.
They create their own money, grow their food and medicine, and plan for the long term, including self protection (guns).
Too bad the Ruby Ridge, Davidians, WACO, White Oak and most all small family farmers have been attacked, terrorized and dozens have been murdered.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

There are many

that are fed up,Ever heard this one?"My Grandmother wears Combat Boots"?Most folks are just fed up.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

So true; fed up.

Yes, I used to quote that saying myself and also the infamous:
America: Love it or leave it!
"If you are an armed citizen looking out for yourself and your family, you are the militia!
Don't submit to incrementalism as we did in Britain."
-Brit4RonPaul
(don't give up your guns)

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

I take your point.

But I would still proceed with caution.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/militia-raids-part-of-government...

And Planning.

I agree.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

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If it was "our" government

we wouldn't need to fight it. It's the government, for the the government, by the government.

Judge Napolitano always like to say:

The 2nd Amendment wasn't put in place so that you could hunt animals. The framers put the 2nd amendment there so you could defend your life and property against criminals, foreign invaders, and TYRANNICAL GOVT.

Fighting soldiers and police is not something I could get behind. Rounding up bankers, politicians, and global elite and sending them to Guantanamo is something I could support

Unfortunately......

It's the soldiers and police that stand between you and the "bankers, politicians, and global elite".

At any rate, violence is not the way. They got that covered. It's their game and they would love you to play their game, even if they gata plant a few agent provocateurs to get things rolling.

Can you shorten this and provide a link?

Violence is for idiots.

Tell that to George Washington, et. al.

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"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Tell it to the CSA

Rhett Butler did. To paraphrase: "How many predator drone/Apache helicopter/jet fighter/cruise missile/Abram's tank/Stryker/etc. factories does 'the militia' have?"