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Metal Bid Ask
Gold $1,273.60
Silver $20.73
Platinum $1,602.50
Palladium $546.00

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Wow...Oil below $70.....

someone who once posted here predicted that, didn't they??

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France jumps on gold repatriation band wagon.

"I want you back!" Is this at least 50 years too late?
Here Comes France: Right-Wing Leader Marine Le Pen Demands Central Bank Repatriate French Gold

First Germany, then the Netherlands, perhaps Switzerland this weekend, and now the French right-wing Front National, which shockingly came first in May's European parliament elections, and whose leader Marine Le Pen is currently polling in first place in a hypothetical presidential election (in both a first and run off round), ahead of president Hollande, has sent a letter to the governor of the French Central Bank, the Banque de France, demanding that France join the list of nations which have repatriated, or at least tried to, their gold.

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Gold is popular

Deutsche Bank's Modest Proposal To Central Banks: "Purchase The Gold [unwanted remnants of crisis-driven investments] Held By Private Households"

Right-Wing Leader Demands Urgent Repatriation on French Soil of all Gold Reserves Located Abroad

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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Ukraine Central Bank Admits Gold Outflow

Calls It "Optimization Of Reserve Structure".

So Ukraine's central bank decided to convert its gold into dollars just as the USD has been surging [and gold has tanked] to levels not seen in years? Who says central bankers are bad traders?


"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

Did rationing of silver end in July

With the statement that WE HAVE PLENTY OF SILVER. Now 4 months later the mint supplies silver for 6 work days and talk of rationing the rest of the year. And a very strong suspicion that we have seen the last of the 2014 round of silver. Why do we put up with this? Does not the law of the land state the mint has to sell silver at all times?

And was the US blackmailed into it?

The Dutch, (Netherlands control the blackbox info from MH17.) This info can possibly tell the world if The free world has been lying. For some reason they have withheld this info. And then on Wednesday http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/netherlands-covers-up-secre... very interesting We get our gold you keep your secrets!

Quite likely

The Germans couldn't get their gold back but the Dutch could? Something doesn't smell right.

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Dutch Secretly Withdrew 122 Tons Of Gold From The NY Fed

Gold Repatriation Stunner: Dutch Central Bank Secretly Withdrew 122 Tons Of Gold From The New York Fed
This is the stunning statement made by the Dutch Central Bank earlier today, and which, all compliments to China's rate cut, is truly the biggest news of the day, as it shows that one doesn't need a referendum to repatriate their gold, nor does one run into logistic or diplomatic problems if one is truly set on procuring their physical.

A week ago, we penned "The Real Reason Why Germany Halted Its Gold Repatriation From The NY Fed", in which we got, for the first time ever, an admission by an official source, namely the bank that knows everything that takes place in Germany - Deutsche Bank - what the real reason was for Germany's gold repatriation halt after obtaining a meager 5 tons from the NY Fed.

Some took offense with this, pointing out, accurately, that the gold held at the NY Fed in deposit form for foreign institutions had continued to decline into 2014 despite the alleged German halt. Well, today we know the answer: it wasn't Germany who was secretly withdrawing gold from the NYFed contrary to what it had publicly disclosed. It was the Netherlands.

As to why the DNB decided it was time to cut its gold held at the NY Fed by 122 tons? ""It is no longer wise to keep half of our gold in one part of the world," a DNB spokesman told Telegraaf. "Maybe it was desirable during the Cold War, but not now."

Who in their right mind trusts their government with gold?

Besides, it makes it easier for the state to play games.

If you don't hold it, it's only their wealth, and they don't share.

Free includes debt-free!

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Does this explain

the drama unfolding today in PM's?

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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The battle seems to be waging: the dollar index against the PMs.

The dollar continues upward driving the price of most commodities down. Metals are so low now that a lot more buying must be going on now than selling, thereby increasing their price. There is a battle going on between what is real, and what is not.

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Battle Royale 2015

Real vs. paper

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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Report blasts US banks’ physical commodities operations

Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley exposed themselves to catastrophic financial risks, environmental disasters and potential market manipulation by investing in oil, metals and power plant businesses, according to a Senate report.

In its report, the subcommittee also criticized regulators for taking insufficient action to rein in the banks’ commodity businesses. Federal Reserve governor Dan Tarullo, who heads regulatory policy, is scheduled to testify in front of the Senate on Friday.


I doubt the Senate or the FED is going to do anything about this, but still interesting, and what's weird is all the print media is on this story, as if its something new that nobody could have imagined!


"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

Total bull trap in gold the

Total bull trap in gold the last few days. Blatant manipulation to suck in more gold bulls before the trap door is pulled.

I'm going to start a short in the GDXJ over the next few days, and then when gold reaches my target of ~800/oz I'll be a bull again.

This trade is about to get choppy though, lots of eyes on gold right now.

lmao.... bull trap.... more

lmao.... bull trap.... more like a bear trap.


I think this rally may go a little further than you think. Don't get me wrong, I think we will reach your $800 target (and probably quite a bit lower) before we see new highs again, but there's a good chance this rally will carry another $200-$300 higher (in gold)before turning back down again.

I'm about to get stopped out

I'm about to get stopped out here if it takes out $30. Choppity chop, maybe it's better to stay away for now with so many eyes on it.

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OK, pardon my "french"

but what the fk is going on with the algorithms today with both gold and silver between 10am and 12:15am? This is ridiculous. These are not market fundamentals at work.

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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This has to do with leaked info about upcoming Swiss Referendum.

It appears the FX and Precious Metals markets have as much faith in the pre-Swiss Gold Referendum polls as the Scots did before their referendum. The clearly leaked results sparked considerable weakness in gold and silver (and EURCHF surge), but once the data was released, markets began to creep back - perhaps questioning the plausibility of such a big swing in such a short amount of time.
posted comment:
"The Swiss are voting to determine if gold has value. No wonder the potential impact if the vote should fail."

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First Financial Calamity then War

say Gerald Celente


"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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China opens up $4.2tn stock market to world via Hong Kong

The Chinese mainland is now open for business, at least in terms of its $4.2 trillion capital market. The Shanghai and Hong Kong stock exchanges are now linked giving foreign investors access to the tightly-controlled Chinese capital markets.

Stock Connect debuted on November 17, and for the first time, stocks on both markets can be traded freely, a major step in China’s roadmap to liberalize its economy.

The landmark agreement will give international investors a lot more options- 568 Shanghai-listed stocks and 268 Hong Kong-listed companies. Foreign investors will be exempt from paying taxes on capital gains (CGT). Previously, the trading of mainland Chinese stocks on the Hong Kong exchange was restricted to a few “qualified" investors.


"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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Silver up .50 today

My guess the mint is ready to start selling eagles again.

When to pull trigger on silver

I want to obtain 1000 oz and chill. Will it depreciate further?

Whats a reliable place with the lowest premiums?

Work your way in instead of

Work your way in instead of going all out on Silver. It is currently in a downwards trend there is a possibility that it has yet to bottom but it is currently on sale so its up to you.

You could just hedge...

...by buying 500oz. now and see if it falls further. I suspect it will get crushed in early trading Sunday night erasing today's gains, but I could be wrong. One thing's for sure: it will be much higher two years from now.

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Silver is up $0.50 today.

Hindsight is always 20/20. Make sure of your decision, and just do it, imo.