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>Gold $1,220 Silver $17.75 Platinum $1,325 Palladium $810 Dollar 84.70

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Hidden Secrets Of Money
Part 1 - Currency vs Money
http://youtu.be/DyV0OfU3-FU
Part 2 - Seven Stages Of Empire
http://youtu.be/EdSq5H7awi8
Part 3 - Dollar Crisis To Golden Opportunity
http://youtu.be/y-IemeM-Ado
Part 4 - The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind
http://youtu.be/iFDe5kUUyT0
Part 5 - TRUE History Of Money
http://youtu.be/OQWMd_NPSBA
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A Visual History Of Gold link provided by DJP333
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-26/visual-history-gold...
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Gold Manipulation: The Logical Outcome Of Mainstream Economics
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-21/guest-post-gold-man...
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Gold Manipulation: How They Do It (And How To Hedge It)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-26/guest-post-gold-man...
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Visualizing Platinum & Palladium's Place In The World
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-24/visualizing-platinu...
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Gold & Silver, Ron Paul: THE TRUTH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ShSGz89mA&feature=related
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Visualizing All The Silver In The World
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-01/visualizing-all-sil...
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Bitcoin: Rate Charts and Commodity Exchanges
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How Governments will confiscate your GOLD!!!
http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/gold-confiscation/
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4 Must watch videos...NOTE:These videos give you a heads up of what is coming!
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Madness of a Lost Society (in 4 parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyjAHfnu0qc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRvjufH29vE
http://youtu.be/p_Ic_OvIPtU
http://youtu.be/2FZmHBcrk5Q
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The Day the Dollar died...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N8gJSMoOJc
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Gold $5000 and Silver $200 an ounce...

Rob McEwen: Your readers need to appreciate: Gold is money. It is currency. I think the number of people familiar with gold will grow as people see gold as a currency. China, India, Russia are buying gold to diversify their foreign reserves. To restore the confidence in currencies, I think some central banks, such as the Chinese and possibly the Russian, will increase their gold holdings to the level that the percentage of their total currency will be greater than that of any other currency in the world. At that point, they will assert that their currency should become the reserve currency of the world.
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Inflation or Deflation....Metals win...
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Why Deflation is good for Precious Metals:
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This thread was started 9/16/10 - here were the prices.

Submitted by SteveMT on Thu, 09/16/2010 - 11:51.

Metal Bid Ask
Gold $1,273.60
Silver $20.73
Platinum $1,602.50
Palladium $546.00

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Top Gold Goodies:
From Mark Twain: It links to one page for Options Expiration & another page for Futures Expiration. It is easy to save or print out for reference all year long. It is a handy reference identifying when US contracts expire for 2014.
http://www.apexfutures.com/trading-tools/expiration-dates/
http://www.heritagewestfutures.com/docs/default-source/defau...
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This is where I watch it happen: http://www.goldseek.com
This is where I buy from: www.apmex.com:
A great read. Think and Stop Investing!
http://www.silverstrategies.com/publications/ThinkandSTOP.pdf
This is an incredible site for watching metals:
http://www.24hgold.com/english/home.aspx
This site monitors all ebay metals prices.Check it out:
http://www.24hgold.com/english/buy_sell_gold_coins.aspx?co_id=0
Jim Sinclair - a Great read everyday: http://jsmineset.com
Hard Core Gold site. Great reads: http://321gold.com

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Thank you.

Henry,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Perish the thought.

I would sell my house to buy at $10.00

I love liberty like fresh cool air in my lungs.I love freedom like fresh cool water on my tongue.I love peace like the smooth skin of my sweet lady.And Dr.Ron Paul is the hero I believe will change the world.

Well, at the rate real estate is collapsing, what would you

get if you sold your house, compared to the 2007 peak. This depression may well cut the value of homes down to 20% of what they were at peak.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

I'm lucky I guess

I payed my home off after five years on a thirty year morgage.Many sacrifices,but I saved a bunch of dough. I feel fortunate because where I live the economy is still pretty good,and there isnt much unemployment ,yet.We have a large military base with lots of young military folks spending.It's good for me because I am a tattoo artist.I am sure I would be able to recoupe my investment in my house of $160.000.00 and maybe even make up for inflation too.Plus I had a place to live for seven years.Now at ten dollar an oz for silver,it would be worth it to sell and if it went up to twenty ,well Merry Christmas,I could afford the house by the water with the boat dock I have always wanted.I think silver is going to rise in price over the next few years though.Will see.

I love liberty like fresh cool air in my lungs.I love freedom like fresh cool water on my tongue.I love peace like the smooth skin of my sweet lady.And Dr.Ron Paul is the hero I believe will change the world.

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The Silver Rush at MF Global

By Erin Arvedlund | 1 hour 57 minutes ago
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-silver-rush-at-mf-global-....
Investors are furious that they can't get back the gold and silver they stashed with the failed brokerage.

It's one thing for $1.2 billion to vanish into thin air through a series of complex trades, the well-publicized phenomenon at bankrupt MF Global. It's something else for a bar of silver stashed in a vault to instantly shrink in size by more than 25%.

That, in essence, is what's happening to investors whose bars of silver and gold were held through accounts with MF Global.

The trustee overseeing the liquidation of the failed brokerage has proposed dumping all remaining customer assets—gold, silver, cash, options, futures and commodities—into a single pool that would pay customers only 72% of the value of their holdings. In other words, while traders already may have paid the full price for delivery of specific bars of gold or silver—and hold "warehouse receipts" to prove it—they'll have to forfeit 28% of the value.

That has investors fuming.

Pool all real assets. Monetize them into paper cash.

Sell or bequeath all real assets to Printers-That-Be, friends & family. Divvy up the "legal tender" paper cash proceeds in a best effort to settle broken promises in pieces of paper cash. Disappear quickly as the excuse, "We were just doing our job." breaks into the news.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

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Clive Maund offers dire warning:

Casino prices may be re-branded Gold & Silver over paper.

Gold & Silver hold value. Casino houses may offer gambling chips at their whim. Paper or plastic? Comex, Nymex & the Monopoly Boyz perfer to have the rabble trade (fight over) paper and plastic... whilst the Boyz spirit away gold and silver.

Auction prices for physical delivery of gold & silver track high prices of gambling houses... These days, low prices are not reflecting reality of physical shipments. http://goldprice.org/ebay-gold-prices/ (formerly known as eBay Gold Index.

    Paper price: Gone with the Wind

PS: Head & Shoulders ® is also a shampoo brand. A bottle costs about one silver dime these days?

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

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"Countries will go bust, not just banks," is right.

What should we do differently to defend against bank runs and entire countries going bust? The strategy stays the same, IMO. Keep the metal, and defend it with guns and ammo.

Countries went bust... Decades... Centuries ago.

United States: many times, many ways. Recently: 1913, 1933, 1941, 1965, 1971, 1999, 2007...

England: 1694 ... --- ... 2007... --- ...

When national currency is but bank notes... national debt receipts, the country redistributes its wealth via paper coupons... cash... or derivatives there of.

Sound money has vanished from the world stage. Burglars apprehended by and by. None have divulged where the world's monetary systems have been spirited away to. It remains a mystery. The world temporarily trades its wealth with bank notes... Money-changers... Money transmortified (1) by "legal tender" laws so that debt... bank loans... by act in the stead of money.

Evidence: Meet the Federal Reserve - the Truth From a Fed Spokesman http://www.dailypaul.com/151701/meet-the-federal-reserve-the... Submitted to DailyPaul forum by We the People on Thu, 12/09/2010
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Note (1): "Transmortified" used to describe how paper bank notes could replace actual money (such as gold & silver) - Jerry Nelson, Chicago Fed Spokesman and Historian response to Gary Franchi, Reality Report interview question, 2010.

The interview ends abruptly after a Liberty gold coin is shown, at which point the Fed spokesperson replies, "That's getting into dangerous territory."

"Any last words for the public?" - Gary Franchi

"I've probably said too many already." - Jerry Nelson, Fed spokesman and historian

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Burglar makes off with rare coins, silver bars and $80,000 cash

"The victim said that the following is missing from her home: 7,000 American Silver Eagle 1-ounce coins in plastic sleeves; 12 bags of silver nickels, dimes and quarters minted from 1920-1963; 15 South African Krugerrand gold coins; 20 10-pound bars of silver; 20 5-pound bars of silver; 30 American Gold Eagle coins with Canadian Gold Maple Leafs; 10-ounce and 6-ounce bars of silver with Johnson Matthey and Engelhard stamps; and $80,000 cash in bank envelopes."

http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&...

Burglars make off w/ entire national monetary system.

Though international heists have taken over national monetary systems all over the world, police remain ever vigilant. No suspects have been detained.

They United States military & military contractors have stepped up their preemptive strikes on would be monetary systems to make the world safe for democracy without a monetary system.

In lieu of the absence of monetary systems, the world has seen a rise in temporary measures to redistribute wealth with trading coupons... Paper cash and other bank notes. Paper cash has been made "legal tender" to make it appear worth fighting for. Alas, paper cash may well be a weapon of mass destruction... Weapon of mass destruction of wealth. A derivative of actual weapons of boom and bust.

Verily I go in search of our missing monetary system.

Mark Twain, Reporter, December 2011

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

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Moody's Downgrades Belgium By Two Notches

Moody's Takes S&P's Place - Downgrades Belgium By Two Notches To Aa3
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Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/16/2011 16:47 -0500

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/moodys-takes-sps-place-downgra...

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Let us get back to reality.

Fitch cuts Goldman, Deutsche, five other large banks
– 4 hours ago
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fitch-cuts-goldman-deutsche-fi...
- Fitch Ratings, the third-biggest of the major credit rating agencies, on Thursday downgraded Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank and five other large banks based in Europe and the United States, citing "increased challenges" in the financial markets.

Fitch cut long-term ratings on Barclays Plc and Credit Suisse AG by two notches to 'A' from 'AA-'.

The agency cut by one notch its long-term ratings on Bank of America Corp, BNP Paribas, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank AG and Goldman Sachs Group.

Let us get back to sound money. Post haste!

When a nation's monetary system is pretended to be saved by gifting "Too Big to Fail" banks & casino houses (aka: investment houses) billions... Casino houses get re-branded "banks" ... whilst they hide(obscure) evidence that trillions have gone missing?

Gifting billions without strings after abject failure to account for trillions?

Gifting billions to the said-same villains spiriting away trillions?

"It makes no sense" - Dr Ron Paul laments many times, many places.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

GO RON!!!

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Dear Phil

Thank you for your generous donation to the Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee. Your contribution to Ron will help fuel the fight to return this country to the principles that made it great.

Here are your transaction details:
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I love liberty like fresh cool air in my lungs.I love freedom like fresh cool water on my tongue.I love peace like the smooth skin of my sweet lady.And Dr.Ron Paul is the hero I believe will change the world.

I told Fireant a few days ago

I told Fireant a few days ago that I would post a picture, pictures being worth a thousand fundamentals...I mention in a note of the picture about a monthly chart. Stockcharts doesn't allow monthly chart links, so I'll have to post info on that one as a weekly. The point I was making in the monthly chart is that RSI was at a multi year high at the $50 high, no divergence as would be expected if that was the final high. The Monthly chart also depicted an alternate count, it would be very bearish from here, I'll post it later when I can edit it into a weekly chart.

Weekly Silver Spot

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All I know is the silver chart is down right ugly.

There is no conviction on the up side, and it doesn't seem to want anything to do with 30. I see nothing to prevent a run to bottom of the channel; going short into the weekend.

Undo what Wilson did

PS, I'll also try to post a

PS, I'll also try to post a chart why I think that the current decline is still part of a counter trend to the Sept decline, not a decline that will take down to $24.20 (or lower-alternate) area.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
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I see lots of big mouthes in

I see lots of big mouths in here. now we will see who the true Ron Paul supporters are. tx since you like to tell everyone how large your account has grown, I had better see one of these from you...

Thank you for your generous donation!

Amount: $500.00
Transaction ID: xxxxxxxxx
Transaction date/time: 2011-12-16 00:58:50

You will get that email that you can cut and paste here. No information is given. it is just confirmation that you put your money where your mouth is. We don't see this you need to take your trolling butt out of here. We see it and you have my utmost respect. same to ron_is.

Actually,

it "confirms" NOTHING. It does however suggest how much is lacking from the analysis of someone who thinks that it confirms anything. See TxRedneck's post below.

same goes for you don't ya

same goes for you don't ya wish you had a ? like me.. same goes for you.

huh

don't I wish I had a question mark like you?

This is like the third or fourth money bomb where you called for people to post their donation confirmations and almost nobody has done it, but the only trolls are people with realistic market outlooks and everyone else gets a pass?

Since I'm so

Since you have so obligated me here...

Amount: $5,000,000,000,000.00
Transaction ID: xxxxxxxxx
Transaction date/time: 2011-12-16 00:58:50

(PS, I have NEVER mentioned how big/small my bank account is, nor will I. You on the other hand...)

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People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

nope redneck all it confirms

nope redneck all it confirms is what you said about 6 months ago on this very thread that Ron Paul won't win. Those are your exact words. Some one else can go look it up and repost it.. You also taunted someone telling them how great your bank accout was. that was just a few weeks ago. again someone can go repost it if they wish. Now its time for you and your buddy to put your money where your mouths are and either support or leave.

ROTFLMAO!

ROTFLMAO!

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People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

I found a 1943 nickel in the

I found a 1943 nickel in the till today. That's a buck sixty in silver. Thanks random person, thanks! Tossed it in the "pile"

my diy adventure blog: dickdoesit.blogpsot.com

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I love liberty like fresh cool air in my lungs.I love freedom like fresh cool water on my tongue.I love peace like the smooth skin of my sweet lady.And Dr.Ron Paul is the hero I believe will change the world.

Quick check

at APMEX seems to be only about 12 Sealed Monster Boxes of SAE's left.All earlyer years,meens higher prem. Be gone soon I bet.

I love liberty like fresh cool air in my lungs.I love freedom like fresh cool water on my tongue.I love peace like the smooth skin of my sweet lady.And Dr.Ron Paul is the hero I believe will change the world.