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So you claim you own more than $2.1 million in silver?

If remotely true, that's a lot of motivation to dole out advice that only benefits yourself... which is an excuse I would accept, by the way, being fully cognizant of the "nature" part of human nature.

you are a dolt. the amount of

you are a dolt. the amount of sales or buys I could generate on this blog are miniscule compared to what the market is ..think. You know nothiong about human nature. but you will get a good lesson here soon as your stocks become worthless.

If someone has profited so

If someone has profited so much on their silver gains then why would they care if it was $50 or $30?!

Haha! With that much I know I wouldn't.

Because the amount is irrelevant

when all you see is what you "coulda" made.

And, by the way you're talking about a $1,144,000 difference spread between $30/oz. versus $50/oz., and that is significant.

Also, for all the so-called hardcore Christians on this thread, there is a hell of a lot of overt concern on how rich they are or will be, which I find deeply amusing.

I always find it funny that

I always find it funny that non christians hold Christians to the words of the bible when they don't practice them themselves. And especially when they do not understand the bible but go off their biased BS. Read your bible. The riches of the wiched are stored up for the righteous. There is nothing wrong with aquiring welth as long as you don't worship or love it more than God. Wealth is used to take care of your family. Just like what we are going to see here in the near future. Those who have prepared will do well those who have not won't.

Now so who cares about a 1,144,000.00 difference from 50.00 to 30.00. I know where its going in the future. I know that there is a massive shortage. I now know that the big banks are all starting to hoard physical silver. Yep those who manipulated it are now storing it. What does this tell you?

Some very interesting changes in Silver on the CFTC's May Bank Participation Report. Here's the link to the report:


As expected the net short position has been significantly lowered but not to the extent that I thought it would given the size and scope of the Silver Slam.

US Banks
April Long: 825 May Long: 1,783
April Short: 25,412 May Short: 20,613

So the net result is a covering of 5,757 contracts or 28,785,000 ounces. Not bad for a months worth of market rigging.

But here's the real interesting part of the report. A while back JP Morgan complained to the CFTC that by listing the number of US Banks in the report the CFTC is revealing where the concentration lies because there were only 2 banks on the short side. This, JPM claimed, was illegal and the CFTC changed their reporting format to keep JPM happy. Now when there is less than 4 banks they will not report the number of banks at all. They leave it blank. But once the number of reporting banks hits 4 they will list the number again.

Voila! The April report has no number listed but the May report lists 4 banks in the US Bank category.

Here's what I think this means...

First you must understand that the rigging of the silver market is part of the entire Banking Cabal's rigging system and not just a JP Morgan operation. The silver "Hot Potato" is the concentrated silver short that must be maintained and managed to rig the price of silver. Aig had it then pawned it off to Bear Stearns and then it landed in the lap of JP Morgan. With the recent announcement of potential silver Position Limits JPM was way off-sides with a 25,000 short contracts concentrated position as the limits were being suggested in the range of 7,000-8,000 contracts. So JPM needed to either cover around 17,000 contracts OR they had to transfer these positions out of their account to other members of the banking cabal.

That's where I think the new 4 bank revelation came from. The Banking Cabal used the massive volatility in the latest Silver Slam to both cover 5,757 short contracts as well as TRANSFER 13,000-15,000 contracts to other US Banks who are in on the manipulation.

Now JP Morgan may be below the position limits required by the new CFTC Laws.

Going forward the Banking Cabal will have to continue to coordinate between each other to manage the Silver Hot Potato but that's nothing new with these crooks.

Do I think this will allow them to rig the markets FOREVER?

No. At any moment the Good Guys can take them down by taking delivery of physical silver.

"When?" is the only question we have left to discover.

The battles continue.

Bix Weir


How is calling folks "troll", "dummy" and much worse Christian?

How is falsifying your true intent to take advantage of others Christian?

How is gleefully mocking others Christian?

I must have studied a different Bible altogether when I was a kid.

Don't care for riches but

Don't care for riches but protection and preparedness.

I hear that

all the time from people who don't have money. When they do come into money, their attitude changes. It's a natural reaction.

WOW!!! Its no wonder you can

WOW!!! Its no wonder you can find SIERRAHPBT ALL OVER the internet on any blog that is remotely connected to silver!!!

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

you should start reading

you should start reading those blogs.. you will get an education.

You see Boat Tail, that's the

You see Boat Tail, that's the thing. I've read about silver since 2002. And there really is not much point in reading it still because what is written has changed very little in those years. Every now and then I do read some of the articles, and I always have to check the date on the article to see if it was written in 1996 or 2006-07-08-09...I very well aware of the so called fundamentals of silver.

ps, UP ONE!!!

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

thats exactly what I bought

thats exactly what I bought and does not count the maples and eagles I have. I have not sold 1 ounce of physical. And there is no tax liability till I sell so I'm sure your IRS uote was coming. I'll save the font time.

You just said (above)

"If I was so wrong then why am I sitting on a huge tax bill?"

There are more twists and turns in your "stories" than a python with scoliosis.

DUMMY... I sold options

DUMMY... I bought and sold options contracts.. NOT PHYSICAL SILVER.. DUHHHHHHH..... can you read?

Except you didn't tell anyone

you were selling your calls (allegedly) until after prices fell 35%, and the MAY puts you claim to have traded expired before they would have come into the money.

An "Elemental" change of pace

MCP and BOC Global.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

That comment was made 4 hours ago

Also, what's up with the name calling? We basically agreed previously that we're on the same destination, even though we take different routes. Try to grow up.

Great post, +1.ps, you

Great post, +1.

ps, you forgot the redneck guy.

pps, why not just say, "anyone who disagrees with me".

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

this is what the problem is

this is what the problem is tx.. You are so thick in the head that its not the point about disagreeing. The point is you have been disagreeing for 4 friggin years and silver has done nothing but gone up in price. It never went to 2.00 like you said it would. When are you going to wake up and admit you were wrong. By the end of the year silver will be above 80.00 and you will still be spewing the same old tired BS. Facts speak for themselves. Its that simple.

No, now there your very

No, now there your very wrong. I was in disagreement in 2008 when was at $8.45. I've not said a word of disagreement since then, until the last month. Additionally, it was not UNTIL 2008 that I disagreed. And also...what I disagree with is that the metal will always follow the fundamentals, NOTHING always follows the fundamentals, and typically price LEADS the fundamentals. Therefore the "facts" you espouse now may change, but PRICE will change before hand, leaving the "fundamentalist" with the question, "what's going on here?".

ps, Great post, +1 !

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

No in 2008 after that

No in 2008 after that manipulated sell of to 8.75- you said silver will go to 12.00 then down to 2.00 where you would buy all you wanted.. remember? I remember it just like it was yesterday. The facts are the facts. You have not presented one piece of information to go against any of the facts of the silver market except for your Prechter BS.
Not one of Butlers or any other analysts facts have you changed with a fact.

Yes, just like I said, IN

Yes, just like I said, IN 2008...

And never have I said that Butler and Crew were liars, they just don't share the whole truth.

As always, UP ONE!!!

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence


http://silverdoctors.com :

"The analysis and discussion provided on SilverDoctors is for your education and entertainment only, it is not recommended for trading purposes. The Doc is not an investment adviser and information obtained here should not be taken for professional investment advice.
The commentary on SilverDoctors reflects the opinions of The Doc and other contributing authors.
Your own due diligence is recommended before buying or selling any investments, securities, or precious metals.
We do not share in your profits, and thus will not take responsibility for your losses as well."

Of course, if they are a propaganda arm of the Silver industry, they DO benefit from your LOSSES...your loss is their gain.

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

why no objection to...

...people voting down this post without commenting on it? TXRedneck only excerpted words from the silver doctors themselves, and made a perfectly valid point.

He did not say they affirmatively were a propaganda arm of the silver industry, he merely observed that IF THEY ARE a propaganda arm of the silver industry, then they do benefit from your losses. If one of the people who voted this post down wants to dispute this point, why don't they post a comment explaining why?

even your anti silver blogs

even your anti silver blogs post the same thing .. you people are funny.

Excellent post!!! +1

Excellent post!!!

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

who ever is the drive by

who ever is the drive by down arrow pusher, Please grow a pair and add a comment on why you dissagree.

when was june 6th decided

happens to be an important day technically.. someone foresaw this weeks ago?

I posted this on here a

I posted this on here a couple months ago.

I'm voting all of your post

I'm voting all of your post up starting today so you can feel better...

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence