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Rob McEwen: Your readers need to appreciate: Gold is money. It is currency. I think the number of people familiar with gold will grow as people see gold as a currency. China, India, Russia are buying gold to diversify their foreign reserves. To restore the confidence in currencies, I think some central banks, such as the Chinese and possibly the Russian, will increase their gold holdings to the level that the percentage of their total currency will be greater than that of any other currency in the world. At that point, they will assert that their currency should become the reserve currency of the world.
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Deflationists, this one's for

Deflationists, this one's for you. The man for whom this site is named...the man himself, now says inflation will reach 50%.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110611/NEWS0605/706119982

"I don't want to run the

"I don't want to run the economy, I wouldn't know how to run the economy. Ron Paul

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Great quote.

That is a great quote from Dr. Ron Paul, but it actually supports Dr. Paul's comment from the article rather than contradict Dr. Paul. Bureaucrats putting their fingers into every corner of commerce and manipulating the monetary system mucking things up thinking they know how to run the economy is what enables possible 50% inflation.

Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl

this is what the

this is what the deflationists don't understand.. ITS THE DEBT STUPID. The Government will print the money to pay its obligations making your money worth less and costitng you more to live.

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Bravissimo, cleburne61

"Paul, who spoke to admirers and Republican activists at a Manchester house party, said the inflation will act like default."

"Social Security checks will still be cut and interest payments will still be made, but the inflated dollars will allow the government to repay borrowed dollars with devalued money, Paul said."

Now, let's prepare for what's ahead.

Ron Paul 2012

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88,439,960 Dow volume

Not to worry, I'm not going to start a daily volume report. Just thought it worthy of note; near identical and pathetic volume on an up day yesterday and sharp down today.

Undo what Wilson did

Stocks really getting slaughtered

Ouch. OTOH, if AAPL continues to fall, I'm going to buy. I figure anywhere near or below $300 is an outrageous bargain considering the tear they've been on and they remain one of the few tech companies making money hand over fist in this economy. It's entirely possible that massive shorts are driving this activity in an effort to visibly shake and discredit Obama (that is, even moreso than usual).

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You give far too much credit to republicon cunning (or.......

...republican conning; either works)
Besides, such conjecture is idle fantasy, based on nothing knowable.

Undo what Wilson did

If such a thing were

If such a thing were possible, I'm not certain Republicans (in particular) would be behind it.

"Clear & Present Danger" Mystically , twice this week . 'W'

Both Gold & Silver option prices traced a "Clear & Present Danger."

        ♞ 'W'

Seems the price of Gold & Silver is going up. See: Gold & Silver coin.

Price of promises wavers. See: Gold & Silver Options. The Golden 'W' was clearly formed. The Silver 'W' gave a sense of danger... Perhaps a reminder of George 'W' & illiterate scribblers following Wall Street.

      "Clear & Present Danger."

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Gold & Silver coin link

Just a note on the link- those who follow it are going to see a lot of junk on the result. Change the Ebay search string to 1 Oz. Gold Eagle (or the bullion of your choice.) The St. Gauden's and mini coins are not bullion, just plated.

Aut Invenium Viam Aut Faciam.

You guys see this?

Kitco Charged With Massive Tax Fraud Scheme, Business Viability In Question

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/kitco-charged-massive-tax-f...

I hope Nadler doesn't have

I hope Nadler doesn't have some 6'6" 300lb hairy backed fella as cellmate.. From what I am seeing he is going to be in big trouble. This is just the beginning. Just wait till this goes to the bankers and COMEX.

I hate NADLER.. but I hate

I hate NADLER.. but I hate the TAXMAN much worse. On their site yesterday they were claiming that they were having a massive electrical outage and that was the reason they were not conducting business.

Fed Trough: Mr N's No Bear. No complete Bull. A Bullock!

    "PASSING AWAY THE WEARY TIME

The Sacramento Daily Union, April 17, 1866

THE AJAX VOYAGE CONTINUED - THE OLD NOR'WEST SWELL
Honolulu, March 19, 1866

In writing about sea voyages....

We had a bullock [aka: a castrated bull; steer; bull for market] tied up on the forecastle, and a box near by with two sheep and a pig in it. These animals afforded a trifling amusement for us on our fair days, and when the opportunity offered we used to go forward and worry them. The bullock was always down on his beam-ends. If he ever dared to get up on his feet for a second in stormy weather, the next lurch of the ship would "snatch him bald-headed," as Mr. Brown expressed it, and flop him flat on the deck; and in fair weather he was seldom able to get up, on account of his sore bones, acquired through the bangs and bruises of his foul weather experiences. So the bullock lay down pretty much all the time from San Francisco to Honolulu - and ever as his wandering gaze rested upon reeling men, and plunging ship and towering billow, his eloquent eye damned the weather. ...
http://www.twainquotes.com/18660417u.html

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

guess what, next month the

guess what, next month the economy will be at its tipping point, for the 100th time in the last year.

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DOW in doldrums -130; metals holding

Who will win?

Metals are down

not "holding"

Silver was 37.5+ yesterday, no more....

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You seem fixated on only silver. Don't be.

The other three: gold, platinum, and palladium all lost less than the DOW did percentage wise. "Don't put all of your eggs in one basket" still holds true.

Silver DOWN 2.4% and the dow

Silver DOWN 2.4% and the dow down 1.07%, so silver is down more in %, as of this writing.

It looks to me that the dow and silver are moving in the same direction today and it looks that way often.

government of the people, by the people, for the people
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When the $ index goes up...

That usually does often happen.

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"Greek Default Is Inevitable" maybe helping $ index

The EURO must be taking a hit today, since there seems to be a flight to the dollar. DOW is down 103.

Greek Default Is Inevitable
by Mario Blejer
Friday, June 10, 2011

The European Central Bank, with its staunch opposition to sovereign debt restructuring in Europe, is making a bad situation worse. By threatening to withdraw support for banks in countries such as Greece if they restructure their debts, the ECB is practically inciting runs on banks.

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/112900/gr...

I think default is

I think default is deflationary.

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Why did Zimbabwue print a 10,000,000,000,000 note?

That wasn't deflation.

According to Txredneck

According to Txredneck
"Hyperinflation is merely deflation in disquise."

Per Tx and Greed, everything is deflationary - even rapid expansion of the money supply, even hyperinflation is deflation. You see per them "deflation cannot be defeated" because whatever happens they simply define it per se as "deflation." Everything either is, is caused by, or causes deflation.

Prices rise - that's deflation
Currency loses value - that's deflation
Interest rates drop - that's deflation
Interest rates rise - that's deflation
Money supply increases - that's deflation
Bailouts of bad debts/speculations- that's deflation
Government deficits - that's deflation
Debt spiralling into geometric rise - that's deflation
Hyperinflation - that's deflation
Gold price rises - that's deflation
Gold price drops - that's deflation
Food prices rise - that's deflation
Oil prices rise - that's deflation
Equities rise - that's deflation
Equities drop - that's deflation
Zimbabwe - that was deflation
Weimar - that was deflation
Chile - that was deflation
Argentina - that was deflation
When fiat currency progresses to its intrinsic value - that's deflation

You see they are absolutely correct. It is all a matter of simple definition. Nothing can defeat deflation. If you define everything as deflation then everything is deflation. Even inflation is deflation.

Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl

Now it seems obvious that you

Now it seems obvious that you disagree with me. Is this the only counter arguement you can present, to completely mis-characterize my arguement into something I never wrote WITHOUT PRESENTING ONE SINGLE COUNTER ARGUEMENT?

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People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

No disagreement

Incorrect. No disagreement. No disagreement of logic can be had using the premise of Tx's defintions.

Tx's logic is one of definitions. By simply defining something deflation by definition, then by definition it is deflation. "Hyperinflation is deflation in disquise" - Tx.

By definition, Tx is correct by manner of his defining his terms as deflation. Via definitions all events yield deflation and nothing can overcome deflation. That is logically correct, but that is not an analysis. That is merely defining terms.

Tx's analysis of likely events by other's meanings of terms is inflation. They agree on outcomes but label them differently. If Tx were able to apply his analysis using definitions of terms as others mean them, the logical conclusion of Tx's analysis is that inflation will overcome deflation and that hyperinflation is even a likely possibility.

A rational hypothesis of possible or likely events to transpire has usefulness, and Tx's hypothesis is better understood when one understands Tx's definitions. A mere contention of defintions however becomes pointlesss and yields no practical productive use. It does not provide greater understanding and analytical insight. Such alternating deliberations distill to a core essence of debate contention as being merely one of:
Is too.
Is not.
Is too.
Is not.
Is too.
Is not.

Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl

They printed those bills

They printed those bills because their credit dried up to nothing. That bill is the government's reaction to deflation.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

no its not.. It is a

no its not.. It is a governments reaction to being dishonest.